Scale not moving despite trying EVERYTHING! HELP!!!
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dustinjbrock wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »Im curious, are you saying youve been dieting and exercising since may and haven't lost a pound? Or have you been losing and plateau?
Haven't lost a pound since May...
If you are strength training and running, you will be building muscle and muscle weighs more than fat so paying attention to the mirror rather then the scale may be your best bet.
As far as diet goes, there must be something your missing. Dieting doesn't work if you sabotage it at all. I.e. sweets, breads.
I'm not sure on the diet you follow but challenge yourself to go 10 days strict, just 10 days. No sugar at all, no diet pop, absolutely no bread or dairy.
I justified little treats here and there as I thought I was doing so good..... nope, they completely sabotaged my weight loss.
OP, please disregard this post.
Could you please explain why?
Because the things you mention are not necessary. For example, how does cutting out diet pop (zero calories) influence weight loss? It's not much different from drinking water.
ETA: ^^^ What he said.4 -
dustinjbrock wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »Im curious, are you saying youve been dieting and exercising since may and haven't lost a pound? Or have you been losing and plateau?
Haven't lost a pound since May...
If you are strength training and running, you will be building muscle and muscle weighs more than fat so paying attention to the mirror rather then the scale may be your best bet.
As far as diet goes, there must be something your missing. Dieting doesn't work if you sabotage it at all. I.e. sweets, breads.
I'm not sure on the diet you follow but challenge yourself to go 10 days strict, just 10 days. No sugar at all, no diet pop, absolutely no bread or dairy.
I justified little treats here and there as I thought I was doing so good..... nope, they completely sabotaged my weight loss.
1. A woman working hard at a progressive strength training routine while eating at a surplus might gain 1 or 2 lbs of muscle per month. No woman is gaining enough muscle to negate her fat loss while eating at a deficit.
2. Breads, sweets, and dairy do not stop
weight loss any more than any other food. If OP is eating the right amount of calories, she would be losing weight regardless of what she was eating.
3. Diet soda is zero calorie and does not directly affect weight loss. Some people say it makes them crave sweets, but that doesn't affect your weight unless you eat too many calories.
4. Little treats are fine and psychologically beneficial as long as you log accurately.
OP already said she may have gotten lax with her measuring and is getting a food scale. She was prob eating more than she thought and doesn't need to torture herself, just log more accurately.8 -
shaunshaikh wrote: »Because it's full of wrong information. You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Sweets and breads won't make you gain weight themselves if you are maintaining a calorie deficit. There's no advantage to cutting out bread, sugar, and dairy, and there sure as hell is no benefit to cutting out diet drinks. Literally everything you said was wrong.
Excuse me? First of all, the op stated she's looking to lose weight, not build muscle. Second, yes you can build muscle, I lost 30lbs fat and gained 7lbs muscle on a calorie deficient diet so go ahead and tell me what I cannot do.
Depending on the type of diet a person is on, all of those things may have a place but my suggestion to someone struggling to make it work..... go very strict for 10 days, see some quick results for motivation and then tweak your diet from there.
You want to lose weight fast, how would sugar and breads and dairy aid you? And please explain in your vast knowledge how diet pop is good for you? If all you are looking at is calories, then you are Ill educated on what you are doing.18 -
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Ericnutrition wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »shaunshaikh wrote: »Because it's full of wrong information. You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Sweets and breads won't make you gain weight themselves if you are maintaining a calorie deficit. There's no advantage to cutting out bread, sugar, and dairy, and there sure as hell is no benefit to cutting out diet drinks. Literally everything you said was wrong.
Excuse me? First of all, the op stated she's looking to lose weight, not build muscle. Second, yes you can build muscle, I lost 30lbs fat and gained 7lbs muscle on a calorie deficient diet so go ahead and tell me what I cannot do.
Depending on the type of diet a person is on, all of those things may have a place but my suggestion to someone struggling to make it work..... go very strict for 10 days, see some quick results for motivation and then tweak your diet from there.
You want to lose weight fast, how would sugar and breads and dairy aid you? And please explain in your vast knowledge how diet pop is good for you? If all you are looking at is calories, then you are Ill educated on what you are doing.
Dustin - how many pounds did you lose in the first 10 days of your diet? Did you count calories?
I was using the mfp to track calories. With most diets when you follow them closely, you'll lose mostly water weight but that couple pounds off the scale and seeing a little result in the mirror is what's always motivated me to then continue on with any diet I've tried. I found that even the slightest result helps get a person amped up.0 -
dustinjbrock wrote: »shaunshaikh wrote: »Because it's full of wrong information. You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Sweets and breads won't make you gain weight themselves if you are maintaining a calorie deficit. There's no advantage to cutting out bread, sugar, and dairy, and there sure as hell is no benefit to cutting out diet drinks. Literally everything you said was wrong.
Excuse me? First of all, the op stated she's looking to lose weight, not build muscle. Second, yes you can build muscle, I lost 30lbs fat and gained 7lbs muscle on a calorie deficient diet so go ahead and tell me what
You are also male. Males can build muscle far more easily than women, like the OP.10 -
dustinjbrock wrote: »shaunshaikh wrote: »Because it's full of wrong information. You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Sweets and breads won't make you gain weight themselves if you are maintaining a calorie deficit. There's no advantage to cutting out bread, sugar, and dairy, and there sure as hell is no benefit to cutting out diet drinks. Literally everything you said was wrong.
Excuse me? First of all, the op stated she's looking to lose weight, not build muscle. Second, yes you can build muscle, I lost 30lbs fat and gained 7lbs muscle on a calorie deficient diet so go ahead and tell me what
You are also male. Males can build muscle far more easily than women, like the OP.
but even by his account he did not build muscle at a rate that masked fat loss - he said he also lost 30lbs - completely different than the OPs situation.5 -
Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!1 -
elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.1 -
dustinjbrock wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »dustinjbrock wrote: »Im curious, are you saying youve been dieting and exercising since may and haven't lost a pound? Or have you been losing and plateau?
Haven't lost a pound since May...
If you are strength training and running, you will be building muscle and muscle weighs more than fat so paying attention to the mirror rather then the scale may be your best bet.
As far as diet goes, there must be something your missing. Dieting doesn't work if you sabotage it at all. I.e. sweets, breads.
I'm not sure on the diet you follow but challenge yourself to go 10 days strict, just 10 days. No sugar at all, no diet pop, absolutely no bread or dairy.
I justified little treats here and there as I thought I was doing so good..... nope, they completely sabotaged my weight loss.
OP, please disregard this post.
Could you please explain why?
Because it is inaccurate and encourages unnecessary restrictions.3 -
Everybody is different, but don't assume that you can't lose weight because you are 40. I had a doctor too, that told me I should lose all the weight I can before age 40 because afterwards it would be impossible. I am female and she was too. Well I started on MFP and in 2 months lost 17 lbs. tracking my calories--eating back all of my exercise calories and measuring with cups and spoons. I have a lot to lose, which makes it easier at first, but I wouldn't have as much to lose if I hadn't believed that doctor for 10 years. I didn't expect anything by counting calories but it has worked, and I'm 51 going on 52. I just got a scale to weigh my food so as I lose I will get more accurate with the logging, which is important.
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One more thing, OP, have you had your thyroid tested? That is the one thing that my current doctor said could affect inability to lose weight. I had mine tested and suspected there was nothing wrong, and there wasn't. Shortly afterwards I started on MFP and have been very pleased with the results.0
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elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.1 -
elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).2 -
lucerorojo wrote: »Everybody is different, but don't assume that you can't lose weight because you are 40. I had a doctor too, that told me I should lose all the weight I can before age 40 because afterwards it would be impossible. I am female and she was too. Well I started on MFP and in 2 months lost 17 lbs. tracking my calories--eating back all of my exercise calories and measuring with cups and spoons. I have a lot to lose, which makes it easier at first, but I wouldn't have as much to lose if I hadn't believed that doctor for 10 years. I didn't expect anything by counting calories but it has worked, and I'm 51 going on 52. I just got a scale to weigh my food so as I lose I will get more accurate with the logging, which is important.
I definitely wanted to SCREAM MY HEAD OFF when my doctor dismissed me with his middle age fear mongering!3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).
I am actually eating MORE sugar now than before I started losing weight. I never had a sweet-tooth before but have been adding fruit to my diet and randomly got into the habit of having a handful of jelly beans before bed. No idea what that's about. It certainly hasn't effected my weight loss.1 -
lucerorojo wrote: »One more thing, OP, have you had your thyroid tested? That is the one thing that my current doctor said could affect inability to lose weight. I had mine tested and suspected there was nothing wrong, and there wasn't. Shortly afterwards I started on MFP and have been very pleased with the results.
Yeah, just did that too. All normal...I think reaching out on here has been the kick I need to be really, really strict for a while and see what I can accomplish! Rrrrawwwr!3 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).
I am actually eating MORE sugar now than before I started losing weight. I never had a sweet-tooth before but have been adding fruit to my diet and randomly got into the habit of having a handful of jelly beans before bed. No idea what that's about. It certainly hasn't effected my weight loss.
Yeah, between fruit, vegetables, grains, and foods with added sugar, I had many days that I exceeded MFP's sugar goals when I was losing weight. It was never a problem for me, it always came down to the calories.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).
Berries and the occasional apple and pear is as dessert, very rarely. Sugars of all kinds spike crazy food cravings for me, so these are eaten very rarely.0 -
elizabethahj wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).
Berries and the occasional apple and pear is as dessert, very rarely. Sugars of all kinds spike crazy food cravings for me, so these are eaten very rarely.
I'm not calling you out for eating fruit, I'm just pointing out that they do have sugar (as do many vegetables).3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »elizabethahj wrote: »Thanks, all. I appreciate the debate. I think the clear thing is the scale v. measuring cups/spoons for tracking, as well as eating to my 'earned' calories. Exercise cals are off. The digital scale is here. Let's see what this next couple of weeks bring...
It's worth pointing out that I am sugar- and grain-free. And, eek, nearly 41...as my doctor so "helpfully" pointed out, I may be feeling demain ageing in the mix. Bleurgh!
When you say 'sugar free' what do you mean? Do you mean no sugar at all, like you eat no fruits and vegetables? Or are you just talking about limiting foods that contain added sugar? Big difference.
Either way, if your calories in are less than your calories out you will lose weight, so sugar and grains aren't really a factor.
I am completely sugar free, i.e. no refined, honey, agave, or other 'natural' sugar replacements; no breads or pasta; no starchy veggies; only berries and the occasional apple and pear for fruit.
I think portion control is truly looking like the culprit.
If you're eating berries, apples, and pears, you're not sugar-free (not that you need to be in order to lose weight).
Berries and the occasional apple and pear is as dessert, very rarely. Sugars of all kinds spike crazy food cravings for me, so these are eaten very rarely.
I'm not calling you out for eating fruit, I'm just pointing out that they do have sugar (as do many vegetables).
Totally! Didn't feel like you were calling me out at all1
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