Age and 1200 calorie minimum

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  • lucerorojo
    lucerorojo Posts: 790 Member
    edited October 2017
    I entered your stats in this calculator and it came back as 1997 as TDEE. https://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
    Maybe you should try this one.
    ETA: I included your daily one hour exercise into it, so that makes it higher than what others are reporting (approx. 1600)
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,336 Member
    edited October 2017
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    I'm 26 and according to the TDEE calculator my maintenance calories are only 1480. That's depressing and I'm not sure how accurate since I burn at least 300 in exercise a day. But based on that you can't tell me 1200 is aggressive

    What are your stats? I'm 55 and short and my sedentary TDEE is 1410. Granted I have a few pounds I want to lose, but I'm a size 2.

    1200 is an aggressive deficit if you're shooting to lose a pound a week because I doubt you have much to lose.

    Editing to add on ... what PAV8888 said about your situation is spot on.

    My stats are 26 year old female, 161cm tall and 63 kg, which is upper end of normal for my hight (65 is overweight) but 55 is where I'm usually at, currently losing baby weight. I Workout moderately once a day for an hour but most of my day is low activity. I entered that into a TDEE calculator and got the 1480 which I don't believe but i re entered it 3 times just to make sure.

    Any reasonably competent calculator for TDEE starts you at over 1600 Cal to maintain as sedentary based on your stats.

    Without any exercise beyond sedentary normal living (translating to steps: 3,500 to 5000 steps a day; translating to activity minutes: less than 60 minutes of non lying in bed or the couch watching tv activity)

    You're either looking at an amount after a deficit has already been calculated, or an incompetent estimation.

    You're also potentially ignoring the following factors.

    If you're breastfeeding that by itself accounts for 300 to 600 calories depending on how much milk you are creating.

    And a mother with young children is seldom if ever sedentary.

    The usual base level would be lightly active before deliberate exercise is added to that.

    I note that mfp's guided setup is not a tdee calculation.

    Mfp does not take deliberate exercise into account when it presents you with the estimate of what you will be eating during the guided set up.

    The guided setup also presents you with a deficit amount commensurate to the amount of weight loss you've said that you want to achieve every week.

    If your TDEE including exercise is less than 2500 Cal a day you really should be thinking quite hard before choosing a deficit that's more than 500 calories a day.

    As always figuring out your weight with a smaller deficit is a pain in the butt. A weight trend tracking application or website is highly recommended.

    Accurate logging of caloric intake is of course assumed. As Anne discussed above individuals can be outliers with results either above or below the population estimates.

    Due to time of the month weight fluctuations it is particularly problematic for women to figure out their weight trend based on only a few observations. Monitoring your weight for at least one full cycle is probably necessary before you can make reasonable decisions.
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited October 2017
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    I'm 26 and according to the TDEE calculator my maintenance calories are only 1480. That's depressing and I'm not sure how accurate since I burn at least 300 in exercise a day. But based on that you can't tell me 1200 is aggressive

    What are your stats? I'm 55 and short and my sedentary TDEE is 1410. Granted I have a few pounds I want to lose, but I'm a size 2.

    1200 is an aggressive deficit if you're shooting to lose a pound a week because I doubt you have much to lose.

    Editing to add on ... what PAV8888 said about your situation is spot on.

    My stats are 26 year old female, 161cm tall and 63 kg, which is upper end of normal for my hight (65 is overweight) but 55 is where I'm usually at, currently losing baby weight. I Workout moderately once a day for an hour but most of my day is low activity. I entered that into a TDEE calculator and got the 1480 which I don't believe but i re entered it 3 times just to make sure.

    What online calculator did you use?

    I ran your stats.. your BMR approx 1345, with a sedentary TDEE around 1620ish. It will be higher with added exercise.

    That said MFP will use the same approx BMR for which it is giving you weight loss goals for.

    To get 1200 calories, you are telling MFP you want to lose 1 pound a week. If you keep this goal, in reality you will only be able to lose around .6 lbs a week. MFP gave you the minimum it will allow you go to in order to lose weight safely. If you set to .5 it should give you something around 1370 (which is recommended when you have so little to lose). Your exercise will be added to the amount using MFP method.

    eta I did not take into account if you are breastfeeding or not. This should certainly be addressed in your intake and made a priority when setting up your goals.
  • sksk1026
    sksk1026 Posts: 215 Member
    I've been looking at my future measly allocation of maintenance calories with trepidation, too, because I love cooking and eating good food. Yes, i'm embracing healthier lowfat recipes generally but every now and then i want fennel with parmesan cooked in butter and white wine! So I'm thinking of incorporating regular intermittent fasting into my week, very much like the 5-2 diet. A few missed meals per week should give me some wiggle room for great meals. From what i've read It has other benefits too like improving insulin resistance. Is anyone else doing this long-term?
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    I'm 26 and according to the TDEE calculator my maintenance calories are only 1480. That's depressing and I'm not sure how accurate since I burn at least 300 in exercise a day. But based on that you can't tell me 1200 is aggressive

    What are your stats? I'm 55 and short and my sedentary TDEE is 1410. Granted I have a few pounds I want to lose, but I'm a size 2.

    1200 is an aggressive deficit if you're shooting to lose a pound a week because I doubt you have much to lose.

    Editing to add on ... what PAV8888 said about your situation is spot on.

    My stats are 26 year old female, 161cm tall and 63 kg, which is upper end of normal for my hight (65 is overweight) but 55 is where I'm usually at, currently losing baby weight. I Workout moderately once a day for an hour but most of my day is low activity. I entered that into a TDEE calculator and got the 1480 which I don't believe but i re entered it 3 times just to make sure.

    Did you look at sailrabbit? You confused your BMR and your TDEE.

    Your BMR is around 1400. Your TDEE is 1600 on all the TDEE calculators I checked, including sailrabbit.

    A lot of people who use sailrabbit misread it/misinterpret it.
  • Beaudom91
    Beaudom91 Posts: 54 Member
    Not sure how to post a screenshot but it was definatly a TDEE calculator and on bodybuilding.com. just entered my stats again and still getting the 1480
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Beaudom91 wrote: »
    Not sure how to post a screenshot but it was definatly a TDEE calculator and on bodybuilding.com. just entered my stats again and still getting the 1480

    Everything else everywhere else is putting you way over that. It's obviously not correct.

  • lucerorojo
    lucerorojo Posts: 790 Member
    sksk1026 wrote: »
    I've been looking at my future measly allocation of maintenance calories with trepidation, too, because I love cooking and eating good food. Yes, i'm embracing healthier lowfat recipes generally but every now and then i want fennel with parmesan cooked in butter and white wine! So I'm thinking of incorporating regular intermittent fasting into my week, very much like the 5-2 diet. A few missed meals per week should give me some wiggle room for great meals. From what i've read It has other benefits too like improving insulin resistance. Is anyone else doing this long-term?

    I'm not doing that kind of program. I just looked up 5-2 online and it sounds unpleasant on those two days that you eat only 25% of your maintenance calories! I don't think it's necessary if you are counting calories. Why don't you just eat 100 calories less 5 days a week (or exercise more if you can) and then you have 500 extra calories to make something special? Or make the special dish but have a smaller serving so that it fits into your calorie allotment? Would you be able to eat only 500 calories per day for 2 days on this 5-2 diet?

    It must work for some people, I guess--I think I have seen some threads on MFP on intermittent fasting.
  • lucerorojo
    lucerorojo Posts: 790 Member
    edited October 2017
    I tried the low carb thing in 2000. At that time I was about 60 lbs. less than my starting weight of 237 in the end June 2017. I did lose weight (about 25-30 lbs.) and kept it off for about 11 years. I don't want to tell the story again but circumstances for 3 weeks led me to not be able to control what I was eating--I wasn't the one cooking, and that set me up to eat carbs for 3 weeks, gain weight and get off the low carb. (I was not counting calories--this is the first time I'm counting calories). Low carb is not something that I can sustain. I did it for several years but I would rather eat the carbs! I exercise about 60 minutes every day by walking now and also swim twice a week and do 1-2 zumba classes per week. I eat back most of my exercise calories, so I consume between 1400-2000 calories each day, depending on the workout I do. If I were not to exercise, I would currently be limited to 1200 calories, down from about 1380 when I started about 4 months ago.

    I've lost 2 lbs. per week ( maintained three weeks in September, 2 while on vacation) since I started. My nutrient breakdowns, which I do not pay much attention to--I'm currently concentrating on calories, since I have 76 more lbs. to lose--are probably about 40-50% carbs, 20% protein and 30% fat, which is similar to the defaults, although I rarely reach the protein macro. I tend to have between 50-70 grams of protein, and I checked on another site that my average should be 77 grams. At this point it works for me to do the exercise to offset the low calories limit, but I will have to increase intensity (as I lose more I can do more impact) since there are only so many hours in the day when one is still employed. I try to drink 100 oz. of water per day, but that can vary from 50 oz-90 oz, with the higher amounts when I do zumba class!
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,311 Member
    I will add, further to my previous post - that yes, 1200 is suitable for some women
    1460 was right for me.

    But those are MFP numbers so they are before excercise - ie only the number you should eat if you do no additional excercise. (additional on top of sedentary, lightly active or whatever your base setting)
  • MissyCHF
    MissyCHF Posts: 337 Member
    edited October 2017
    Can one believe and trust the fat percentage given on bathroom scales? Mine says 30%. :(
  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 5,217 Member
    dwilliamca wrote: »
    I notice a lot of younger people automatically think a woman is "too aggressive" at 1200 calories. Yes 1200 is the minimum set by MFP for women, but for some of us it is not aggressive at all. What some don't realize is that age is a bigger factor than even size for determining your BMR and therefore calorie base. I'm over 60 and on 1200 calories with only a 500 deficit before adding exercise. By the time a woman gets into her 50's and beyond, her BMR can drop down around 1100-1300 and obviously calorie base drops as well. Sad, huh? I figure by the time I reach my 130 goal I'll only by able to eat 1400 calories in maintenance plus whatever I can add with exercise (and I'm not burning 600-700 a day like some of you young energetic types).

    I am 59, 5'1"+ (that plus is important because it is always rounds up) and currently working on maintaining at 100 -105 since the beginning of the month of Oct. I lost around 30 pounds avg of 6 pounds per month eating 1050. I think I would have still lost at 1200 to be honest but it would have been probably around 2-3 pounds per month which would have been pretty excruciatingly slow. Currently my TDEE calculator has me (with exercise) at around 1850. I haven't increased up to that # yet but am adding about 100 every other week. I really was not starving at 1050 (and I have fasted/starved myself before so I know what that is). Mostly portion control. I also ate a lot of my favorite things and tried to eat throughout the day instead of just 3 larger meals. At 1050 or slightly under I had fairly decent energy and was also able to complete the CT6K program. What I am learning is that everyone is different and knowing the COMPLETE picture is important. Someone my age and height maintaining at say 130 is going to have a much higher TDEE. My long term goal is really eat to fuel my energy and not yo yo back up, With that in mind I am focusing on maintenance (as I started even early on).

    I would hope when you reach your 130 goal that you will be able to eat a little more than 1400 to maintain. But we ARE all different and what I am learning is that dieting is easier than maintaining and everyone's #s will be different and even different for them over time. You have to set a range and then you adjust to stay in that range either up or down. So in the summer when it's 100+ just walking around the barn doing chores with my horse burns a ton more than in the winter when it's cooler. Another trick I am learning is that is it weight trends versus daily which are important, so if you want to have a big day (special event etc...) you can manage your calories weekly as well. That does not work for me personally to do all the time but once in a while if I have a really bad craving or night out I think it will work. So if 1400 is your BMR for maintaining, it's NOT the end of the world. Make that your weekly avg and have days where you eat more to satisfy your brain and days you eat less to maintain where you want to. I hope all this makes sense. I am not an expert but just posting musings from my personal experiences so far. Look over in the maintenance forums and read some of the things the folks currently maintaining struggle with or succeed with.
  • tayusuki
    tayusuki Posts: 194 Member
    I think research has updated 1000 as a minimum recently -- MFP also allows diary completion at 1000.

    Personally, I can't eat too much higher than 1200. I'm 23 and 5'0, 158lb roughly. My TDEE is estimated 1650. Eating even that makes me gain (which of course means the calculator is a little off).

    And given that I eat the right foods, I'm very happy at 1200.
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