IF- Intermittent Fasting

Humankinds most oldest and natural remedy
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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    edited November 2017
    Humankinds most oldest and natural remedy

    It wasnt by choice. :p
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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Humankinds most oldest and natural remedy

    remedy?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    Humankinds most oldest and natural remedy

    remedy?

    Yea it's a remedy for my night eating problem :D .......other than that um I'm not sure.
  • ladyhusker39
    ladyhusker39 Posts: 1,406 Member
    Can something be most oldest?
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    edited November 2017
    cathipa wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Dr. Oz must have done a special on it claiming to help you lose 30 pounds in a month or some other crazy lose weight quick scheme. I think he recently had something on there about ACV so be prepared...

    Yes it is new and popular but hopefully won't stay considered a fad. You are right there is a lot of misinformation around it though. it's just a different way of eating and it's newer so it's gained a lot of popularity and of course with that there are false claims of what IF can actually do. I still have to stay within my calorie budget to lose weight, nothing magical, like any other eating style it's dependent upon CICO. They are doing scientific studies on the benefits of IF but so far it's just a good tool for people like myself. Never hungry during the day but love to stuff my face at night, this helps me align my diet with my eating style so I am not constantly fighting myself in the evenings just to stay within my budget.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    cathipa wrote: »
    cathipa wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Dr. Oz must have done a special on it claiming to help you lose 30 pounds in a month or some other crazy lose weight quick scheme. I think he recently had something on there about ACV so be prepared...

    Yes it is new and popular but hopefully won't stay considered a fad. You are right there is a lot of misinformation around it though. it's just a different way of eating and it's newer so it's gained a lot of popularity and of course with that there are false claims of what IF can actually do. I still have to stay within my calorie budget to lose weight, nothing magical, like any other eating style it's dependent upon CICO. They are doing scientific studies on the benefits of IF but so far it's just a good tool for people like myself. Never hungry during the day but love to stuff my face at night, this helps me align my diet with my eating style so I am not constantly fighting myself in the evenings just to stay within my budget.

    I agree. I practice IF as well to help me maintain my deficit. I just see too many posts about this where people think its the IF and not the calorie deficit that is contributing to the weight loss.

    Yea that bugs me too, I'll never understand why some people think it works that way for just them, when it doesn't work that way for anyone else.
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    cathipa wrote: »
    cathipa wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Dr. Oz must have done a special on it claiming to help you lose 30 pounds in a month or some other crazy lose weight quick scheme. I think he recently had something on there about ACV so be prepared...

    Yes it is new and popular but hopefully won't stay considered a fad. You are right there is a lot of misinformation around it though. it's just a different way of eating and it's newer so it's gained a lot of popularity and of course with that there are false claims of what IF can actually do. I still have to stay within my calorie budget to lose weight, nothing magical, like any other eating style it's dependent upon CICO. They are doing scientific studies on the benefits of IF but so far it's just a good tool for people like myself. Never hungry during the day but love to stuff my face at night, this helps me align my diet with my eating style so I am not constantly fighting myself in the evenings just to stay within my budget.

    I agree. I practice IF as well to help me maintain my deficit. I just see too many posts about this where people think its the IF and not the calorie deficit that is contributing to the weight loss.

    Yea that bugs me too, I'll never understand why some people think it works that way for just them, when it doesn't work that way for anyone else.

    They think they are unicorns :wink:
  • Lean59man
    Lean59man Posts: 714 Member
    edited November 2017
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.


  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    I don't think everyone was eating 4-6 meals. I never was, it always seemed annoying. I ate 3 meals, and was not starving at all.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited November 2017
    Lean59man wrote: »
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.


    I looked into Eat Stop Eat and I think that's 1-2 24 hour fasts in a week. That seems really reasonable/not too hard to me and I might try it (just 1/week). (And yes, it's the deficit.)
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Lean59man wrote: »
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.


    If you're doing 5:2 then Tuesday would consist of 500-600 calories, not no food whatsoever
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    malibu927 wrote: »
    Lean59man wrote: »
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.


    If you're doing 5:2 then Tuesday would consist of 500-600 calories, not no food whatsoever

    Yes, this.
  • Lean59man
    Lean59man Posts: 714 Member
    malibu927 wrote: »
    Lean59man wrote: »
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.



    If you're doing 5:2 then Tuesday would consist of 500-600 calories, not no food whatsoever

    You are correct. It's been awhile since I did that one and I forgot.

    Even with the 500-600 calories over the entire period I was starving at the fast's end. The fast itself was very unpleasant, especially the second night going to bed hungry.

    I find the 16/8 much better for me.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    Lean59man wrote: »
    There have been some books written about in the last few years. It's called the 5-2 Diet, Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet, and a few other versions.

    Supposedly it has beneficial effects on your blood chemistry/insulin resistance. I don't think this is proven.

    I do the 16/8 because I can eat 3-4 large meals from Noon to 8PM and not go to bed hungry. In fact somedays I have some difficulty getting all my calories in! Of course I get a bit hungry from 5:30 AM to Noon but I drink black coffee and it's not too bad.

    I tried the 5-2 method which has you fast twice a week from after dinner one night (Monday) around the clock to breakfast (Wednesday), 36 hours but that is no fun. You skip eating for two days a week and eat normally for the other 5. Common sense tells you that not eating for two days a week will cut your weekly calories a lot but only if you don't gorge yourself on the 5 days you do eat. You are starving after the fasts.


    There is some evidence that IF increase insulin sensitivity, which makes sense that it would help those with IR. But its been awhile since i have seen the studies and how much of an improvement.
  • ANothing
    ANothing Posts: 6 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.

    If something is inconvenient, how is it worth it?
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    edited November 2017
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.

    If something is inconvenient, how is it worth it?

    There are some things that are worth it even if not convenient. Great example .....kids haha....at least that's what my momma says, she might be placating me though.
  • walktalkdog
    walktalkdog Posts: 102 Member
    This did not work for me; I tried doing it for one week, and the low calorie days made me stark raving mad. It may work for others however.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.

    If something is inconvenient, how is it worth it?

    There are some things that are worth it even if not convenient. Great example .....kids haha....at least that's what my momma says, she might be placating me though.

    I can assure you I do not feel that way about my kid and soon to be other kid. :p .
  • ANothing
    ANothing Posts: 6 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.

    If something is inconvenient, how is it worth it?
    Because I get to eat a pound and a half of potatoes with veggies and a pound of chicken in one sitting (for example) and still have enough macros for dessert, while still being in a defecit mind you. Make sure you pay attention to the wording, I said "a bit of an inconvenience". Meaning it's only slightly inconvenient.
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    I've always skipped breakfast and not ate until the afternoon, until recently I just used to say I don't eat breakfast.

    Now to get people to understand I have to say I eat 16:8 :D
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    ANothing wrote: »
    thecharon wrote: »
    Why is this all of the sudden so popular? Was there a tv show on it? Honestly, what is going on?

    Because people realized they were still hungry all day after eating 4-6 meals a day on a deficit. Whereas IF allows people to eat bigger and satisfying meals while still achieving fat loss goals. If you're on a bulk, you definitely won't get it because you won't have appetite issues like people on a cut do.

    Ironically, I was starving on IF, just as much as I was starving on 6 meals a day. I am a 3 meal + 1 snack per day type person.

    I drink lots if water (at least a gallon) and chew gum to get my mind off of food when I fast. It is a bit of an inconvenience but worth it.

    If something is inconvenient, how is it worth it?
    Because I get to eat a pound and a half of potatoes with veggies and a pound of chicken in one sitting (for example) and still have enough macros for dessert, while still being in a defecit mind you. Make sure you pay attention to the wording, I said "a bit of an inconvenience". Meaning it's only slightly inconvenient.

    Maybe I am cutting at much higher calories, but I do that with more meals. And I do pay attention to wording.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    I've always skipped breakfast and not ate until the afternoon, until recently I just used to say I don't eat breakfast.

    Now to get people to understand I have to say I eat 16:8 :D

    This. I'm highly amused that it's a "thing" now.
  • JustaJoe00
    JustaJoe00 Posts: 777 Member
    its a popular discussion now because it works in all kinds of forms for different people. The interesting discussion to me is that if you look back to before food was so readily available to us we didn't have the choice to eat all day long or even every day. What i find pretty interesting is the discussion about how if you don't eat , your body will start breaking down muscle...lol...that can happen but most likely only to people that have a very very low body fat content. Isn't fat our bodies' reserve? yes ....so why wouldn't it take fat for energy first...

    I'll i can say is read then read some more. don't just depend on 1 expert for your information. Not everything works for everyone!
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    edited November 2017
    I don’t know why, but from April thru September I was losing weight at a rate of 2 - 2.5 lb a month on an average 8500 weekly caloric allotment ( approx 1200 a day)

    October I switched to 5:2 IF. Still eat average 8500 weekly calories. But on the 5 days I feel wonderful because I can eat like a normal person again. (“Honey, you wanted to make King Ranch Casserole this weekend, yay, I’d love a piece for dinner!”) And on the 2 fast days I feel like I did EVERY day for the previous five months. Annoyingly hungry all day long. And I’ve lost 7.5 lb in 5 week.

    Best thing I ever did for my diet was shift to 5:2 eating. I’m not recommending it to anyone else - maybe they’d hate it. I just know it worked for me and I can happily see myself doing it in some form for the rest of my life. One or two annoying fast days so I can eat normally all the rest of the time? Heck yes, I’m in!