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Are abs made in the kitchen?

theyoginurse
theyoginurse Posts: 82 Member
edited November 22 in Debate Club
I’ve read countless articles that say diet is 80% and exercise is 20% of the weight loss factor. There are even articles that say exercise is only 10%. How true is this? Have you lost weight without exercise? Are abs really made in the kitchen?
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  • jamesakrobinson
    jamesakrobinson Posts: 2,149 Member
    Mine were
  • Lpaige89
    Lpaige89 Posts: 22 Member
    I 100% agree with the above poster. Abs are a result of being lean, not really exercise, unless of course you have amazing genetics. No matter how much you exercise, your physique really depends on what your eating and how much.
  • Ironandwine69
    Ironandwine69 Posts: 2,432 Member
    cs2thecox wrote: »
    And some women will struggle to get abs, no matter how hard they work.
    There are genetics at play with how "bulgy" the muscles can get, even with reasonable amounts of training.

    I've hit a point where I have maybe 1 and a half slightly visible ab muscles, and to get more would require WAY more specific ab pumping than I'm willing to do, and even lower body fat which I'm also not willing to countenance. I was a bit below 16% earlier this year, and still no particularly visible abs.

    I've revised my current goal from having visible abs to squeezing out my 4th pull up! :p

    If you have any muscle on your core they would show at 16% ( I'm assuming you are a woman). That has more to do with training than genetics.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    As everyone else has said, but it bears repeating. Losing weight will reveal your abs, but if you don't have them they won't show.

    For evidence, look at the flat stomachs found on those rescued from concentration camps. No observable muscle tone/definition.

    If you have a lot of muscle... or a lot of visceral fat, your abs will be visible at higher body fat percentages. Mine start peeking through when I get below 235.
  • Lean59man
    Lean59man Posts: 714 Member
    edited November 2017
    You can not even train abs directly and get a six-pack.

    They are activated by many exercises.

    If you want abs you have to reduce your gut which translates to losing bodyfat.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited November 2017
    Any effort to put a percentage on it is silly, but the fact is, of course, that you need to be very lean to have visible abs, and that you get more lean by having a calorie deficit. Some (many or most) may also need to also improve training to have visible abs. (Disclaimer: I do not have visible abs, I am not lean enough for that.)

    For me, yes, I could lose without exercise, but even apart from the ab question I look much better when I include exercise, including strength building, at least for my personal aesthetic.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I’ve read countless articles that say diet is 80% and exercise is 20% of the weight loss factor. There are even articles that say exercise is only 10%. How true is this? Have you lost weight without exercise? Are abs really made in the kitchen?

    You can lose weight without exercise
    Abs are shown in the kitchen
    you do not have to do any direct ab work
    core is worked in many ways
    sometimes it is all about genetics as well...some may never get a 6 pack.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I’ve read countless articles that say diet is 80% and exercise is 20% of the weight loss factor. There are even articles that say exercise is only 10%. How true is this? Have you lost weight without exercise? Are abs really made in the kitchen?

    You lose weight when you take in fewer calories than you expend...IMO, it's a lot easier to lose with exercise because you increase your energy expenditure and thus can eat more and still achieve the same end result...but you don't have to workout to lose weight. I lost a good 20 Lbs before I really started doing any kind of deliberate exercise.

    For visible abs, you need to have abs...and you need to be at a pretty low BF% and have good genetics...you get to a low BF% by eating less...thus "abs made in the kitchen" thing...

    Without exercise, I would have to eat around 1800 calories per day to lose 1 Lb per week...with my exercise, I can lose about 1 Lb per week eating around 2300-2500 calories depending.
  • Kwoconnor
    Kwoconnor Posts: 39 Member
    My abs appeared from a calorie deficit and my workout five days a week. Note that my workout disnt have a specific abs routine in it - I sort of got them for free.

    Now that I see them I incorporate an abs routine.

    However, diet played the role as I was on a caloric deficit for about three months prior.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    I have a lot of days that go like this: get up, eat a light breakfast quickly (usually just a coffee), drive an hour, spend the day hiking or cycling or skiing, drive back. I burn a lot more calories than usual, and skip a meal or two. Exercise helps by keeping me away from the kitchen where the food is.
  • cs2thecox
    cs2thecox Posts: 533 Member
    edited November 2017
    @Ironandwine69 this was 16% day. I wasn't doing *huge* amounts of specific core training, although there's plenty of muscle there from 5 years of Pilates and a year of decent lifting.
    Just for me, the extra work I'd have to put in to get ripped abs wasn't worth the sacrifices I'd need to make.

    (And yes, there's always the possibility that the 7-site calliper measurement came out a bit wrong and I was a bit higher than 16%...)
  • FAAB_too
    FAAB_too Posts: 67 Member
    I believe you can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I think it takes both nutrition and exercise.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    FAAB_too wrote: »
    I believe you can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I think it takes both nutrition and exercise.

    except for those who can't exercise...

    but in reality abs are revealed in the kitchen if you have the genetics for a six pack.

  • rsclause
    rsclause Posts: 3,103 Member
    Its a two pronged attack. You have to uncover the abs to see them (deficit) but you should also be building something to show (ab work)
  • brendanwhite84
    brendanwhite84 Posts: 219 Member
    I got to 7.5% body fat (measured by Bod Pod) before I included strength training in my routine, and only had the earliest beginnings of abs.

    So yes, in my experience you have to build muscle and maintain low body fat.
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    Nutrition/calorie deficit for weight loss, exercise for fitness/physique improvements. It's much easier to create a caloric deficit with nutrition than to try to do it with exercise. However, depending on one's goals and if you really want what most perceive to be a "fit" physique you'll need to do some exercise. Beyond that, the exercise needs to match the goal physique; training for and running marathons likely isn't going to produce the desired physique if the goal is to look like a gymnast or bodybuilder.
  • srodgers16
    srodgers16 Posts: 1 Member
    article in this week's Health magazine, study shows that doing ab exercises does not burn ab fat. Probably something most have already known, but interesting study validated it. Ab exercise can build ab muscle and calorie deficit eliminates fat (and muscle, arggg) evenly across your body.
  • CSARdiver
    CSARdiver Posts: 6,252 Member
    Abs are made through progressive resistance training...they are revealed in the kitchen.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    FAAB_too wrote: »
    I believe you can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I think it takes both nutrition and exercise.

    What about a mediocre diet, can you exercise your way out of that? A decent one? Where's the line?
  • WR50
    WR50 Posts: 96 Member
    Genetics, diet, strength training... in that order.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    FAAB_too wrote: »
    I believe you can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I think it takes both nutrition and exercise.

    What about a mediocre diet, can you exercise your way out of that? A decent one? Where's the line?

    The better question is how bad is bad.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.

    Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
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