Weight gain body fat fight

GaryMilan2017

Hi there i am currently bulking and my weight is up one day and down another. Eating clean carbs most of the time is this my muscle and body fat fighting each other.Any help would be helpful.I do feel as my eating is more than enough to be surplus of calories.

sardelsa

First off, clean carbs mean nothing. Sure they may be nutritious and add fibre (which is great), but it won't prevent fat gain in a surplus or anything.

Weight flucuations are normal but the trend should be up over time.

Also, feeling like you are in a surplus and actually being in a surplus may be two different things. Track your intake on here as accurately as possible if you aren't seeing the gains you want

LiftHeavyThings27105

Hey man! Like Miss Sardelsa stated, weight fluctuation is normal and perception | reality can be two different things. I agree with both and here is why:

1. On the weight fluctuation point, you really need to know your maintenance Caloric Intake to best determine if you are actually in a surplus. First and foremost. Secondly, if you are logging your caloric intake you will be able to see EXACTLY what you are indeed consuming. Thirdly, we humans generally fluctuate in weight all day long.

2. On the perception | reality point, again, you really need to know your maintenance Caloric Intake. This is a very general comment - but lots of people have a very ignorant idea of what their maintenance calories are. Not saying that you don't know, but - in my experience - most people really don't know.

Are you logging your food intake? Are you eating the same things every day (I do.....but I am a creature of habit and really enjoy the few things that I do eat....most people prefer variety...)? What type of fluctuations are we talking about here? Are you tracking your weight everyday? And, is there an upward trend? Is the trend flat? Is the trend downwards?

And, I am going to make the assumption - so please correct me if I am incorrect - that you are weighing yourself every day, on the same scale, at the same time, correct?

Does this make sense?

AnvilHead

1) Weight fluctuation is normal and unavoidable.

2) Without measuring/logging, you don't actually know if you're in a surplus - or what the size of your surplus is (an excessive surplus can result in excessive fat gain).

3) Fat gain during a bulk is inevitable, regardless of how "clean" you eat. Even under ideal circumstances, a natural (no steroids) male will gain around 50/50 muscle/fat.

4) Your muscle and body fat don't "fight each other". They're separate components and involve different physiological processes - none of which include striving for the elimination of each other.


Here are three articles worth reading for solid, evidence-based advice on bulking:

https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/muscle-gain-math.html/

https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html/

https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/muscle-gain-mistakes.html/

jseams1234

You really need to figure out your calorie intake. If I ate what my body feels like I need - I actually lose weight. My appetite will only support a 180 pound man.... and I weight 240. lol

Davidsdottir

jseams1234 wrote: »

You really need to figure out your calorie intake. If I ate what my body feels like I need - I actually lose weight. My appetite will only support a 180 pound man.... and I weight 240. lol

I also have the appetite of a 180 lb man...and I'm a 130 lb woman LOL

jseams1234

Davidsdottir wrote: »

jseams1234 wrote: »

You really need to figure out your calorie intake. If I ate what my body feels like I need - I actually lose weight. My appetite will only support a 180 pound man.... and I weight 240. lol

I also have the appetite of a 180 lb man...and I'm a 130 lb woman LOL

Touché!

93pear93

Do not weight yourself everyday its pointless.
It is much better to observe your body in the mirror and watch changes(once a week weight).
Surely you need to set and count your daily calories intake.
What's your currently BF?

sardelsa

93pear93 wrote: »

Do not weight yourself everyday its pointless.
It is much better to observe your body in the mirror and watch changes(once a week weight).
Surely you need to set and count your daily calories intake.
What's your currently BF?

It's not pointless to someone (like myself) who tracks their weight trends.

Johncalvinfields

I been allowing 60% protein 20%carbs and 20% fats. I’m bulking but also getting lean. Slow go considering I’m 50 years old but I’m getting there. And stay hydrated , drink plenty water

trigden1991

Johncalvinfields wrote: »

I been allowing 60% protein 20%carbs and 20% fats. I’m bulking but also getting lean. Slow go considering I’m 50 years old but I’m getting there. And stay hydrated , drink plenty water

Protein is unnecessarily high in my opinion and you are not "bulking but also getting lean" as they are mutually exclusive.