Convince me about keto

muncymissy

I’ve heard a lot of success stories about the keto diet, and I have spoken to doctors and nutritionists that day this diet is horrible for you. So tell me how to eat my nutrients on the keto diet. How is that much fat good for my body. I don’t want to know why it helps someone lose weight. I want proof that it is a healthy diet - good for you.
Then tell me all the success stories of people who stopped the diet and ate healthy foods and kept the weight off. I really want to know.

SuzySunshine99

Keto helps people lose weight if it puts them in a calorie deficit. No special diet is necessary, fat and carbs don't matter for weight loss. As long as you burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. Why over-complicate your life? Just eat the foods you like while staying within your calorie goal.

ladyhusker39

You'd probably get better info on this by going into some of the Keto groups here. You can search to find many posts about this subject.

Why do you want others to convince you that the diet is healthy whatever that means?

cmriverside

Why don't you believe the doctors and nutritionist(s)?

I personally think it sounds awful. I don't do well without ice cream. Or bread. Or pasta, etc.

lemurcat12

Whether it is healthy or not depends on what you choose to eat. IMO, it can be, yeah, but I don't see a reason to convince you -- there's no particular need for you to do it unless you think it would be helpful. I know keto success stories, but many, many non-keto success stories also, of course.

inertiastrength

It makes no difference tbh but I'd seriously question adherence with such a restrictive regiment. It's probably the most overlooked factor by dieters every time. PLEASE. CONSIDER. ADHERENCE. for the amount of time it will take you to reach your goal, and into maintenance.

Ready2Rock206

I never understand why anyone would want to do something they need to be talked into. Sounds like it is something that doesn't fit with your goals or whatever so why even bother with it?

GottaBurnEmAll

I believe it can be perfectly healthy provided that you don't rely overly much on processed meats and are sure to eat at the upper ranges of carbohydrates you can and still remain in ketosis. Being active raises how many carbs you can eat on a ketogenic diet, btw. I would encourage this. I'm a firm believer in the healthfulness of vegetables and their importance in the diet.

I know that there is mixed evidence regarding saturated fat, and I personally have issues with it medically. I think you can find balance eating keto without going overboard on sat fat, because there are still plenty of sources of healthy fat like avocado, oily fish, olives and olive oil, nuts, and seeds.

Saying all of that, there's nothing special about keto unless the food choices available on the diet suit your preferences and you find them filling.

A dietary regimen that you find satisfying is one that you will stick to. The biggest issue is ... what are you planning on doing once you lose your weight? If you implement ketogenic eating to lose weight, do you plan on continuing to eat that way? Do you understand the fundamentals of energy balance that underlie all diets? Because they will govern your weight maintenance.

The food choice on keto isn't some "secret" behind why it works. It works because for some people, fat satiates them and they find it easy to maintain a calorie deficit eating that way. It's nothing more complicated than that.

Catawampous

I have been keto for over a year now. I am absolutely not going to attempt to convince you of anything.

CICO still applies. I chose this way of eating because I like it. I finally figured out that for ME it wasn't the pastas and breads or grains I liked, it was the stuff on TOP of it that I liked. Those other things were just carriers for the good stuff. By themselves, they did nothing for me. Now I have just replaced those things with veggies of different varieties. This helped control the CI much better for ME.

As far as my doctor, he is happy as a clam with me and my labs. He will readily admit that his knowledge of nutrition isn't the best though.

Hope you find something sustainable for yourself that makes you happy and content!

**As always YYMV. This post reflects my personal experience Yours may differ. I am not a doctor.***

gearhead426hemi

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Athena98501

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Medical studies of the ketogenic diet treating epilepsy began in the 1920's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19049574

Dr Atkins himself was *born* in 1930.

Wetcoaster

http://www.leangains.com/2009/02/low-carb-talibans.html

http://areyouobscene.com/are-you-obscene/low-carb-vs-high-carb-diet-ft-alan-aragon/

http://www.bodyforwife.com/keto-and-low-carb-diets-kill-performance/

rchelen

For me it helps me be in control of what I eat. When I think of carb I would eat mostly junk food, now that I cut carb out aka "junks" I'm more aware of what I put in my body. And when I do crave carb I opt for the healthy carb and eat brown rice or potatoes and lots of vegetables and not feel bad about eating those! Also on keto because eating less junk I don't crave junks as much either. Do whatever works for you.

gearhead426hemi

Athena98501 wrote: »

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Medical studies of the ketogenic diet treating epilepsy began in the 1920's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19049574

Dr Atkins himself was *born* in 1930.

There's no troll smiley so this will have to do.

Athena98501

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Athena98501 wrote: »

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Medical studies of the ketogenic diet treating epilepsy began in the 1920's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19049574

Dr Atkins himself was *born* in 1930.

There's no troll smiley so this will have to do.

You've misunderstood, and made a faulty assumption. I've said nothing anti-keto, if that's what you're thinking.

ETA: http://www.notablebiographies.com/newsmakers2/2004-A-Di/Atkins-Robert-C.html

psuLemon

If you need to be convinced to follow a diet, than its the wrong diet for you. If anything id say concentrate on calories protein and fiber, and let the rest fall out.

Jigglypuff00

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Actually, ketogenic has been around a lot longer than the Atkins diet. Atkins is actually a spin off of Keto. It started out to help control seizures in epileptic children. Then it was discovered to have additional benefits of more alertness, more energy.

I never understand the phrase "more restrictive." I probably eat more and better than I had before. I don't feel like I'm restricted. Do I wish I could eat donuts, cakes, ice cream? Sure, sometimes. But then if I do, there goes my blood glucose. So no, I don't miss those types of foods. I'm full and happy, and losing weight. Without exercising. Not that I don't want to exercise. Just right now, I can't. Hopefully soon!

lemurcat12

rchelen wrote: »

For me it helps me be in control of what I eat. When I think of carb I would eat mostly junk food, now that I cut carb out aka "junks" I'm more aware of what I put in my body.

I find this mindboggling, in that "carbs" does not mean mostly junk food. Most "junk foods" are half carbs, half fat (some have protein too), so aren't properly "carbs" anyway, and many foods that are predominately carbs are not remotely junk foods: vegetables, fruit, legumes, potatoes, sweet potatoes, whole grains (including oats, barley, brown rice), as well as pseudograins like buckwheat and quinoa.

If you chose to eat mostly nutrient-poor sources of carbs, that's not because "carbs" are inherently nutrient-poor or that eating carbs keeps one from focusing on nutrition.

MelanieCN77

Either listen to your doctors or do your own research on people post keto.

lemurcat12

Athena98501 wrote: »

gearhead426hemi wrote: »

Keto is just a new spin off of Atkins. It definitely works I have done it a couple times more as a cleanse for a few weeks to jump start things. Last time I lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks. It is very restrictive so make sure you shop and meal prep for like a week at a time. There isn't a perfect diet for everyone so I would suggest try it for a couple weeks and see how you feel and if it could become a lifestyle no a diet. Best of luck!

Medical studies of the ketogenic diet treating epilepsy began in the 1920's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19049574

Dr Atkins himself was *born* in 1930.

I assumed that the poster meant that keto as a diet for weight loss is a spin-off or rebranding of Atkins (basically sticking with Atkins induction phase). I think that's right, despite it being used in a limited medical way before that. Most people doing it don't have any reason to be in ketosis (ie, the benefits for epileptics) but are doing it to control the appetite or because they find it an enjoyable way to control calories, which was also why Atkins was a rage in the '90s (I knew plenty of people doing it), and probably when it was hot originally. Plus a lot of people just love being able to eat foods they had considered indulgent when dieting (i.e., bacon, cheese). I don't know why people STILL seem to think you can't diet any way (well, not WFPB) and fit those in, but that's a totally different issue.

(And Atkins was not the first low carb diet, obv, also, I know about, say, Banting, but it was a huge popularization of it.)

kimny72

So I read the OP as kind of a passive aggressive attempt to start a debate, like "Yeah, sure, go ahead and show me that this isn't a load of crap" lol. But they haven't come back so I guess that might not be the case.

I will admit that I still wonder if keto is really healthy long term. I see so much long term evidence for high fiber/plant based diets. But I can acknowledge that growing up in the 70s and 80s low fat craze probably still has a voice whispering in my ear against high fat! Regardless, it doesn't affect me as I do much better on a moderate carb diet, and if some other people reach their goals better doing keto I'm happy for them and wish them good health as well.