Crossfit yes or no
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I do wonder how many of the super buff guys and gals doing CF actually achieved their mass doing traditional hypertrophy routines prior to CF and not because of CF. [/quote]
The super buff guys and gals you see on the TV Crossfit competitions are doing steroids.
Yep, that's how they get that look and power.
It's the well-kept "secret" of Crossfit and helps market the business model.
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I did crossfit for 3 years, even started doing 2 classes a day one being a strongman wod just for me. They can program to your needs. Like me having bad knees I had to stop. You will be fit for sure. I was doing power lifting 3 times a week too in a regular gym. Now I just lift heavy upper body movements hoping for one more bench press meet. Put this way if you and your buddy come across a car accident and have no phone service, the crossfitter can go run for help while you rip the doors off an free the victim. Thats what I do...lol I'm not a spider monkey with a manbun.2
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@Luxduca it's Monday...did you check it out?!0
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Davidsdottir wrote: »@Luxduca it's Monday...did you check it out?!
Yeah, how did it go?0 -
They killed Lux!!! Savages.4
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To address the "random" notion, and it is a big problem I see at times...BUT sometimes what appears random, is actually building upon itself.
Of the programming is good, and looked at from a distance, it's not as random as it appears. CrossFit is built on not specializing, there are a lot of movements, so there has to be a ton of variety. Also realize that you are programming for a population, not an individual. One of the tenants of CrossFit is building work capacity over a range of time and modal domains. This means sometimes it's strength focused, sometimes it's longer cardio, sometimes shorter and more intense. It's also not to say that a person can't take some time to do extra more specific work outside of class. I could never just follow the classes as the only exercise I do. That doesn't mean the entire system is bad.
I find a lot of these criticisms funny because people are saying CrossFit is bad because it doesn't fit my goals. Yet people rarely go out of their way to dismiss another form of exercise because it doesn't fit their goals. No one cares that it doesn't fit your specific goals. But when it comes to a general fitness program that keeps people engaged and wanting to continue to workout, it's really tough to beat.10 -
My girlfriend does Crossfit and loves it. Is it for me, no. First off, it's triple what I pay a month for the gym. Second, they do a lot of stuff I have no interest in doing. If it helps you reach your goals, then do it.1
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I find a lot of these criticisms funny because people are saying CrossFit is bad because it doesn't fit my goals. Yet people rarely go out of their way to dismiss another form of exercise because it doesn't fit their goals. No one cares that it doesn't fit your specific goals. But when it comes to a general fitness program that keeps people engaged and wanting to continue to workout, it's really tough to beat.
Quite happy to discount anything that gets all ONE TRUE WAY (TM) and claim miracle results.
Particularly when it's significantly more expensive than other options.2 -
To address the "random" notion, and it is a big problem I see at times...BUT sometimes what appears random, is actually building upon itself.
Of the programming is good, and looked at from a distance, it's not as random as it appears. CrossFit is built on not specializing, there are a lot of movements, so there has to be a ton of variety. Also realize that you are programming for a population, not an individual. One of the tenants of CrossFit is building work capacity over a range of time and modal domains. This means sometimes it's strength focused, sometimes it's longer cardio, sometimes shorter and more intense. It's also not to say that a person can't take some time to do extra more specific work outside of class. I could never just follow the classes as the only exercise I do. That doesn't mean the entire system is bad.
I find a lot of these criticisms funny because people are saying CrossFit is bad because it doesn't fit my goals. Yet people rarely go out of their way to dismiss another form of exercise because it doesn't fit their goals. No one cares that it doesn't fit your specific goals. But when it comes to a general fitness program that keeps people engaged and wanting to continue to workout, it's really tough to beat.
This is a crossfit specific post, no one asked about other forms of exercise that 'don't fit goals'. Of course people are only dismissing CF.
But since you brought it up, I'll be happy to dismiss other things as well..
Some people are happy with improved "fitness" and maybe losing some weight/building a little muscle and strength over the years. And for those starting from basically no weight lifting experience, of course they'll see some newbie gains just from starting to incorporate some type of resistance training.
However, many people's motivation for joining CF is wanting to look like a Games athlete, or lift super heavy weight. For them, there would be better methods to achieve these specific goals.
Even in the weight lifting realm there are certain programs that don't fit certain goals. A powerlifter would not use a "bro split" hypertrophy program, just as someone with purely aesthetic goals would not do a powerlifting specific program. Getting really great at Oly lifts- you'd be better off hopping on an Oly specific program.
Yes, there is programming involved. You will likely test your maxes and run some programming off of that, but because you are trying to cram so many movements in you don't really get much time to spend on any one movement. Personally, I like to work on a skill several times per week, not once weekly or bi weekly.
The point is, just as you said, the programming is not individual. So if you have a specific goal - aesthetics/strength/Oly lifts/endurance events such as a marathon- you should do programming for that goal. Not just CF which has you spend time on #allthegoals
I actually tried to do additional programming more specific to my goals along side CF, but unless someone has the time to workout twice a day or can manage to do back to back training and recover from all of it, you're better off dropping the CF to focus on your goal.7 -
If you like group settings and are social then try it out. If you're like me and lift angry you'll likely not fit in.
On injury: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rosspomeroy/2014/04/03/crossfit-isnt-killing-us/#421374d9aec0
"Injury rates with CrossFit training are similar to that reported in the literature for sports such as Olympic weight-lifting, power-lifting and gymnastics and lower than competitive contact sports such as rugby union and rugby league," the researchers reported.
And that rate is positively puny compared to sports like soccer, skiing, and football. Even running may be more dangerous. A 2010 study followed recreational runners for eight weeks as they trained for a 4-mile race. 30.1 injuries were reported for every 1,000 hours of running."
Many of the same folks that claim it is so dangerous also take their kids to soccer and football before heading off for a run. Yes there is a chance you'll get injured. Yes, it's ugly when it happens. Thing is any and all exercise has risks. It's up to the individual to make their own risk vs' reward judgment.
Once again I am not a Crossfit cultist (just kidding
) but I don't see a problem with it if it would get you more into fitness. 6 -
Yes, If they have an actually Olympic lifting coach then yes; if not you'll reinforce terrible technique that will lead you to injury.
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I LOVE crossfit! I've been doing it for a little over a year. I'm sure I would see way better results if I would stick to better nutrition though lol... Most places give you a free workout or two so try it out and try a few different places out too to see if you like this place over that place and the workouts in general. If it doesn't seem to be the right fit, you can always try something else.1
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I LOVE crossfit! I've been doing it for a little over a year. I'm sure I would see way better results if I would stick to better nutrition though lol... Most places give you a free workout or two so try it out and try a few different places out too to see if you like this place over that place and the workouts in general. If it doesn't seem to be the right fit, you can always try something else.
My sister has been doing crossfit since Feb of this year and loves it. She was really disappointed that she wasn't losing weight. Her box started doing IIFYM 4 weeks ago (logging weight and inches lost). She is down 15 lbs and 5.5". Basically once she started keeping track of calories the weight started coming off. Diet is key:)2 -
Depends on your goals, what you enjoy and what motivates you, but of course everyone has said that already :P How did the class go?
I plan on joining a local box when I have the disposable income to do so, right now I get a discount at a gym chain from work and I'm saving to go back to school so I can't justify it. It is expensive but to me, a good box is going to be worth it. When I'm at the gym, outside of swiping my card to get into the gym I don't talk to anybody there, no one is watching my form, and no one is motivating me to push myself so a lot of the times - I don't. These are struggles I face, some people are great at pushing themselves and love the fact that when they're at the gym they don't talk to anyone. I come from a team sports background and I find the competition and camaraderie to really help me do the best I can, not to mention every session you go to you should have an experienced trainer motivating and keeping an eye on a relatively small group of people, that alone makes the thought of it worth it to me, because there should be somebody making sure your form is good.1 -
At my gym we do a type of Crossfit called Alpha. We do a lot of power-lifting. I love the class and my upper body got so much stronger but my right knee is killing me from barbell squats. I do miss the cardio that I used to get from Bootcamp also.1
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Davidsdottir wrote: »@Luxduca it's Monday...did you check it out?!
Moved to this Saturday. I couldn’t attend on Monday.
So,Saturday morning at 9am. I will give you my verdict.
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Jtalaskamom wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »@Luxduca it's Monday...did you check it out?!
Yeah, how did it go?
Going on Saturday. Couldn’t go on Monday.
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cbrealtor55 wrote: »Yes. Every box is different, find one that has good coaching. Also, it's important to listen to your body. Nobody forces you to do the reps at the prescribed weight. Scale the workouts as needed. Check your ego at the door, a lot of people get hurt because they have too much pride and won't use a lighter weight.
I second this^ The coaches and owners at the box I go to are amazing. They are serious about proper form and scaling down to a safe level. Another thing, CF used to have "prescribed" workouts with set weights for each lift and I think it made people more competitive and likely to injure themselves, they have gotten rid of this now and I think it's great. Just find what works for you, be safe, and ask the coaches about form if you are new to a lift or movement and you'll be fine. Could just as easily get injured running or playing a sport if you don't use proper form.1 -
I can't justify the cost.0
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