Looking for new friends who quit sugar/eat clean :)
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Wildflowers70 wrote: »I failed to mention that I have drastically cut back on sugar and avoid refined sugar. I replace the sugar in my recipes with honey or maple syrup. I also have reduced my sodium intake.
What the *kitten* difference does it make if you use white sugar or honey?
Sugar is sugar to your body24 -
You know. See the above response to the others. There are all sorts of threads here at MFP. If you aren't interested in eating clean, then spare us. The posters query was for people who WANT to eat clean. Maybe you are assuming that everyone on this site is here to lose weight. It is called My FITNESS Pal and some of us are here to find a path to a fitter healthier self rather than just lose weight. Honey has antioxidants and both honey (58) and maple syrup (54) have a lower glycemic index than table sugar (65). I am not advocating eating any of them by the spoonfuls. I clearly stated that overall I am trying to reduce my sugar intake. Unlike you, I have a credible site to support my information on honey. https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/20040618/honey-has-variety-of-health-benefits-news#1 I consider Web MD to be a pretty balanced source of information.
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The conversation that's going on will probably scare other like-minded people away from this thread, which is a bit of a shame. I would've loved to come in contact with more people who are interested in eating this way.8
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Okay the reason these “trolls” (who are NOT trolls but rather know exactly what they are talking about (and have taught me a lot over the last year) is because the “eating clean” fad never lasts. What does last is learning to eat within your calorie goals and enjoy what you eat. So these “trolls” are giving advice that you will actually be more successful if you ditch the elimination diet mindset and just focus on calories.
Oh and sugar is sugar is sugar to your body no matter its source.25 -
MarianMarMoi wrote: »The conversation that's going on will probably scare other like-minded people away from this thread, which is a bit of a shame. I would've loved to come in contact with more people who are interested in eating this way.
I see that as a good thing - I used to be a poster child for "clean eating". Adopting that approach to my diet made me the unhealthiest I've ever been in my life, both physically and mentally. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.17 -
I personally don't see why it would be so impossible. Maybe there are people with a more strict view on "clean" food than me, but to me it just means keeping to food that is not processed, cooking from scratch (I'm not sure what to call it in english, sorry).
I know that beside all these unhealthy snacks I've been eating out of habit my "normal food" has been primarily "clean". I don't know if anyone eats 100 % "clean", I probably never will, but I don't see why it would be so wrong to try. Why is this so provocative to some?10 -
MarianMarMoi wrote: »I personally don't see why it would be so impossible. Maybe there are people with a more strict view on "clean" food than me, but to me it just means keeping to food that is not processed, cooking from scratch (I'm not sure what to call it in english, sorry).
I know that beside all these unhealthy snacks I've been eating out of habit my "normal food" has been primarily "clean". I don't know if anyone eats 100 % "clean", I probably never will, but I don't see why it would be so wrong to try. Why is this so provocative to some?
So, just eat nutrient dense food most of the time, know you can enjoy less nutritious foods sometimes and still be healthy without the need to feel bad or guilty about it.... Why does that need a name? You'll probably find that most of the anti-clean eating people eat "clean" most of the time, that's normal eating.19 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »MarianMarMoi wrote: »I personally don't see why it would be so impossible. Maybe there are people with a more strict view on "clean" food than me, but to me it just means keeping to food that is not processed, cooking from scratch (I'm not sure what to call it in english, sorry).
I know that beside all these unhealthy snacks I've been eating out of habit my "normal food" has been primarily "clean". I don't know if anyone eats 100 % "clean", I probably never will, but I don't see why it would be so wrong to try. Why is this so provocative to some?
So, just eat nutrient dense food most of the time, know you can enjoy less nutritious foods sometimes and still be healthy without the need to feel bad or guilty about it.... Why does that need a name? You'll probably find that most of the anti-clean eating people eat "clean" most of the time, that's normal eating.
I'm not really sure if I understand this discussion, tbh. What would be the less nutritious foods that wouldn't count as "clean"? (I do find this to be a weird word for it, but since that is what people use I don't know what else to call it)
As far as I know some "clean" foods aren't very nutritious, like cucumber, but they're still not processed.
With the post I made before I was more questioning why people are so angry. If they do find it stupid and "something most people do anyway", why feel the need to attack people who want to eat whole foods?8 -
I'm a bit surprised at the response this thread has received. I wouldnt be posting on a Keto thread as I'm not interested in it. I have been overweight my whole life. This way of eating is what works for me. I've tried so many other things and although it may be something people do without putting a title to it, it's something that I have only discovered in the last few months. If you're interested in clean eating, add me! If you're interested in losing weight and focussing on your fitness goals, add me! Let's not question one another on how we eat and why we choose to eat that way. That's not why I stated this thread.
Peace and happy new year ✌15 -
Wildflowers70 wrote: »You know. See the above response to the others. There are all sorts of threads here at MFP. If you aren't interested in eating clean, then spare us. The posters query was for people who WANT to eat clean. Maybe you are assuming that everyone on this site is here to lose weight. It is called My FITNESS Pal and some of us are here to find a path to a fitter healthier self rather than just lose weight. Honey has antioxidants and both honey (58) and maple syrup (54) have a lower glycemic index than table sugar (65). I am not advocating eating any of them by the spoonfuls. I clearly stated that overall I am trying to reduce my sugar intake. Unlike you, I have a credible site to support my information on honey. https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/20040618/honey-has-variety-of-health-benefits-news#1 I consider Web MD to be a pretty balanced source of information.
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Thank you.
I do agree that eating clean is subjective, but I think it's good in theory. I don't really need to lose much weight. My goal for the new year is to simply tone up, maybe lose 5lbs in the process and be overall healthier.
Sure CICO works to drop pounds, but what you eat makes a big difference in overall health and nutrution. I feel much better if I eat healthier foods. If I eat a lot of processed foods and/or fast food I tend to feel very sluggish and tired.
Last year I did no added sugar for 1 month. I didn't log calories before doing this and I didn't log during this...I just ate when I was hungry. After 1 month I lost about 5 lbs just from eliminating added sugars. By eliminating added sugars you're forced to change the way you eat. Most pre packaged foods have sugar so those get eliminated.
Maybe we can use this discussion to throw some recipes around and whatnot. Many peoples definition of clean eating may differ, but eliminating added sugar is pretty straight forward.
I also don't agree that all sugar is created equal by the body. Some sugars get metabolized differently than others (HFCS for example). I try to avoid hfcs if at all possible (won't buy anything with it listed), and I never touch artificial sweetners. If I'm going to have sugar, give me the real stuff.19 -
I also don't agree that all sugar is created equal by the body. Some sugars get metabolized differently than others (HFCS for example). I try to avoid hfcs if at all possible (won't buy anything with it listed), and I never touch artificial sweetners. If I'm going to have sugar, give me the real stuff.
Not sure where you get your information from, but here's the actual scientific research regarding HFCS: https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/straight-talk-about-high-fructose-corn-syrup-what-it-is-and-what-it-aint-research-review.html/
HFCS is virtually identical to both sucrose (table sugar) and honey, and is not metabolized any differently in the body.22 -
@megpie41 You lost 5lbs because you consumed less calories. Roughly 17500 calories less.
It doesn't matter what foods you eliminated, eliminating the calories is what did it.
Clean eating is what a lot of new posters think you have to do to lose weight or be healthy.
Then the first time they fancy a chocolate bar they think they have failed and give in. Even when they are within their calories. They didn't fail anything, they just ate some yummy food.
We need to stop labelling the way we eat so that people realise that they get to choose what they eat within their calories. Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
And having a different view point is not trolling.25 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.21 -
MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
You have to consider context within the overall diet and dosage rather than blindly/dogmatically categorizing a food as "healthy" or "unhealthy". Eating potato crisps once in a while within an overall balanced diet is perfectly fine. Eating potato crisps all day every day is not perfectly fine.14 -
MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
As I said, main indicator.
Eating too much of anything isn't healthy. Eating a little bit of potato chips as part of a balanced diet is fine.
I'm not scared of eating some"unclean" potato chips or a chocolate bar.
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MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
You have to consider context within the overall diet and dosage rather than blindly/dogmatically categorizing a food as "healthy" or "unhealthy". Eating potato crisps once in a while within an overall balanced diet is perfectly fine. Eating potato crisps all day every day is not perfectly fine.
I'm not really sure how to respond to you. I wrote that as a reply to someone who stated that being normal weight is the main indicator of good health, as if it doesn't matter if you eat well or terrible, as long as it has the right amount of calories.15 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
As I said, main indicator.
Eating too much of anything isn't healthy. Eating a little bit of potato chips as part of a balanced diet is fine.
I'm not scared of eating some"unclean" potato chips or a chocolate bar.
I doubt anyone is scared to do so, but is it so terrible if people want to steer away from eating those things? Why bash them?12 -
MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
As I said, main indicator.
Eating too much of anything isn't healthy. Eating a little bit of potato chips as part of a balanced diet is fine.
I'm not scared of eating some"unclean" potato chips or a chocolate bar.
I doubt anyone is scared to do so, but is it so terrible if people want to steer away from eating those things? Why bash them?
Where is anyone bashing them?
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »MarianMarMoi wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »-
Being a normal weight is the main indicator to good health.
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I'm sorry but I will have to question this part. The only thing being normal weight means is that you eat the right amount of calories. I am normal weight and I've mainly eaten potato crisps for the past years. Even if this doesn't cause me to gain weight, do you think I'm healthy?
Of course everyone choose what they want to eat, but completely denying that some foods are not healthy is not right.
As I said, main indicator.
Eating too much of anything isn't healthy. Eating a little bit of potato chips as part of a balanced diet is fine.
I'm not scared of eating some"unclean" potato chips or a chocolate bar.
I doubt anyone is scared to do so, but is it so terrible if people want to steer away from eating those things? Why bash them?
Where is anyone bashing them?
Maybe I've misunderstood something, but this thread quickly got filled up with people trying to tear down (with lack of a better word) that this was something worth doing. As if we're being silly even wanting to try this out. It's not nice.16
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