Are My Health Coach's Words Accurate?
becomingbeautifultoday
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Okay, so I have a “health coach” who does my weekly weigh ins with one of those body fat scales. When I say health coach, I use that term very loosely, she’s not like a qualified anything, but she’s done some informal training, and she’s family.
Anyway, she’s really worried about my fat %. Like, telling me I’m going to get all these diseases and that it’s really, really, alarmingly high. The scale says I’m sitting on 33% body fat, which I know isn’t healthy, but I don’t feel like I’m as unhealthy and fat as she makes it out to be.
I’m 5’4 and currently at 74kg (163cm and 163lbs), there’s a picture of me too so you can see how my body holds it.
I’m still on my weight loss journey, so I’m certainly not settling at 33%, but is it really as bad as she makes it out to be?
Thanks for your honest opinions guys
Anyway, she’s really worried about my fat %. Like, telling me I’m going to get all these diseases and that it’s really, really, alarmingly high. The scale says I’m sitting on 33% body fat, which I know isn’t healthy, but I don’t feel like I’m as unhealthy and fat as she makes it out to be.
I’m 5’4 and currently at 74kg (163cm and 163lbs), there’s a picture of me too so you can see how my body holds it.
I’m still on my weight loss journey, so I’m certainly not settling at 33%, but is it really as bad as she makes it out to be?
Thanks for your honest opinions guys
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It’s not great but it’s not horrible - I’d validate her results with a dexa scan, bodpod or similar to make sure it’s accurate
Then add some progressive strength training (strong lifts, strong curves, wendler)1 -
Those body fat % scales have a large margin of error. Has she advised you at all about how your hydration levels affect the readings? You don't look like you could possibly be 30% to me, at all.8
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diannethegeek wrote: »Those body fat % scales have a large margin of error. Has she advised you at all about how your hydration levels affect the readings? You don't look like you could possibly be 30% to me, at all.
She's mentioned that when water % increases or decreases, then fat % will do the opposite, but that's about it.0 -
Your body in that photo reminds me of myself when I was in my mid-30's and had about 25 pounds to lose. ... I spy some belly bulge ... and that is the kind of body fat you need to be careful of. Measure your waist and compare that to your hips ... Waist-to-hip ratio (WHR) is the ratio of your waist circumference to your hip circumference (calculated by dividing the waist circumference by the hip circumference). WHR is a measurement tool that looks at the proportion of fat stored on your waist, and hips and buttocks.
If it falls under .85 you are fine ... if over that, then you need to reduce your waist size. Belly fat, can get out of control as we age ... and the bigger your waist, the more health issues you CAN face, such as metabolic syndrome (diabetes, insulin resistance, etc.) ...6 -
I wouldn't trust those scales. Book in for a Dexa scan, I think they are well and truly worth it. Also, you can google for images like this https://www.google.com.au/search?q=women+body+fat+chart&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7vaLa27rYAhVEoZQKHZzVCXcQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=672#imgrc=jW1jiXS91MVPnM:
Assuming you are at 30%, you'll see it isn't that high, and definitely not "alarmingly" high. You said you are still losing so just keep on doing what you're doing.0 -
Your body in that photo reminds me of myself when I was in my mid-30's and had about 25 pounds to lose. ... I spy some belly bulge ... and that is the kind of body fat you need to be careful of. Measure your waist and compare that to your hips ... Waist-to-hip ratio (WHR) is the ratio of your waist circumference to your hip circumference (calculated by dividing the waist circumference by the hip circumference). WHR is a measurement tool that looks at the proportion of fat stored on your waist, and hips and buttocks.
If it falls under .85 you are fine ... if over that, then you need to reduce your waist size. Belly fat, can get out of control as we age ... and the bigger your waist, the more health issues you CAN face, such as metabolic syndrome (diabetes, insulin resistance, etc.) ...
Thanks, my waist is at about 92cm, and my hips are about 110cm, which comes in at 84%. I know I have a lot of work to do still, and thanks for your honesty, that’s what I need.5 -
I wouldn't trust those scales. Book in for a Dexa scan, I think they are well and truly worth it. Also, you can google for images like this https://www.google.com.au/search?q=women+body+fat+chart&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7vaLa27rYAhVEoZQKHZzVCXcQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=672#imgrc=jW1jiXS91MVPnM:
Assuming you are at 30%, you'll see it isn't that high, and definitely not "alarmingly" high. You said you are still losing so just keep on doing what you're doing.
Thanks for this. I'll definitely look into a Dexa scan. Thanks for your support.0 -
While I absolutely agree the scales can be inaccurate I think getting a scan is really unnecessary for the general population. I'm very much into human physiology, lean mass, gaining and losing fat and lean mass, strength training, all that stuff. I still wouldn't go and get a scan, visual is good enough for me.21
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VintageFeline wrote: »While I absolutely agree the scales can be inaccurate I think getting a scan is really unnecessary for the general population. I'm very much into human physiology, lean mass, gaining and losing fat and lean mass, strength training, all that stuff. I still wouldn't go and get a scan, visual is good enough for me.
Thanks for your input. So visually then, how would you feel about my body composition and my level of fat?0 -
laurawaterman19 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »While I absolutely agree the scales can be inaccurate I think getting a scan is really unnecessary for the general population. I'm very much into human physiology, lean mass, gaining and losing fat and lean mass, strength training, all that stuff. I still wouldn't go and get a scan, visual is good enough for me.
Thanks for your input. So visually then, how would you feel about my body composition and my level of fat?
I actually think around 30% is right. Your legs and arms are a bit lower but due to the middle/belly it bumps it up and as mentioned, that is the the least ideal place to store excess.The good news is that with the rest of you being relatively leaner it should come off your tummy at a nice pace now. Just keep going and see where you are as you progress.
I absolutely advocate for strength training of some description, it will help retain lean mass that we inevitably lose as we lose weight and once at goal/a happy place it will continue to improve your composition.10 -
Not at all! Your "health coach" needs a chill pill. You are a work in progress and doing great.10
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VintageFeline wrote: »laurawaterman19 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »While I absolutely agree the scales can be inaccurate I think getting a scan is really unnecessary for the general population. I'm very much into human physiology, lean mass, gaining and losing fat and lean mass, strength training, all that stuff. I still wouldn't go and get a scan, visual is good enough for me.
Thanks for your input. So visually then, how would you feel about my body composition and my level of fat?
I actually think around 30% is right. Your legs and arms are a bit lower but due to the middle/belly it bumps it up and as mentioned, that is the the least ideal place to store excess.The good news is that with the rest of you being reasonably lean it should come off your tummy at a nice pace now. Just keep going and see where you are as you progress.
I absolutely advocate for strength training of some description, it will help retain lean mass that we inevitably lose as we lose weight and once at goal/a happy place it will continue to improve your composition.
Well that's certainly good news to hear! And I love strength training, so I'll definitely be doing lots of that! Thanks again!3 -
Her comments about diseases reflect the statistical risk for overweight /over fat people. It's not going to happen to you tomorrow but many of these diseases don't show up until many years or decades later. That doesn't make them not real. At your age no one can say which ones you'll get or when, or if you will be lucky and dodge the bullet.3
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Scales aren't accurate for bf% and 33% isn't "alarmingly" high. There's no reason for her to be trying to scare you with it :huh:
Regardless, the only thing you can do is what you're already doing - losing weight. Honestly, it so hard to get a reliable bf reading, I wouldn't worry about verifying the number. You know you still have weight to lose, and that's the key.
Genetically I tend to carry my weight in my middle so I focus on my waist measurement and waist related ratios. I've had a smart scale for a couple of years and despite losing almost 20 lbs and looking like I'm in a lot better shape, it's been giving me the same bf% the whole time, so I ignore it0 -
Scales aren't accurate for bf% and 33% isn't "alarmingly" high. There's no reason for her to be trying to scare you with it :huh:
Regardless, the only thing you can do is what you're already doing - losing weight. Honestly, it so hard to get a reliable bf reading, I wouldn't worry about verifying the number. You know you still have weight to lose, and that's the key.
Genetically I tend to carry my weight in my middle so I focus on my waist measurement and waist related ratios. I've had a smart scale for a couple of years and despite losing almost 20 lbs and looking like I'm in a lot better shape, it's been giving me the same bf% the whole time, so I ignore it
Oh wow, I can’t believe the BF on your scales didn’t move! That’s crazy.1 -
Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.1 -
Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore2 -
Just keep focused on what you’re doing. Am similar to you, 5ft4, 153lbs and want to get to 135lb. What’s your goal? I think focusing on that rather than the BF will work for, it’ll come down as you lose.1
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laurawaterman19 wrote: »Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore
If she is family, why is she treating you so poorly? Seems pretty harsh for someone you're close to. You can take control of your own weight loss and ask her to step away. It doesn't sound like she is being much of a help.10 -
Unless your get some kind of body scan like the Dexascan, Bodpod or that dunk tank measurement I would not go by what the scales say in bodyfat.
Oh and by the way and I dont mean to throw her under the bus, but the whole OH MY GOD your gonna die thing is a bit over the top really. Like she has been trained to try to make people think the worst to motivate them program. Just saying.
You want my advice work on yourself and measure with a tape measure and what you look like in a mirror. That is if you can be honest and objective with yourself. Take pics to compare and hey if you need to post them here. Sometimes we are very hard on ourselves and others can see what we cannot.
Not to mention for the ladies you have well features that might cause a higher fat % anyways. In your pic you look fine to me. yeh we all need or want to lose some weight and do what you feel you need to do. This is something that needs to be a change for you so that when you get to your goal you also can maintain it.2 -
laurawaterman19 wrote: »Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore
"So unhealthy"?
What else is she saying you should do?1 -
You say you aren't paying her, but it's she your Herbalife distributor? Because then you are paying her and she may be saying things to make you buy more products. It's very concerning that she's so negative and dire in her pronouncements while having no formal education in any of this.15
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Should you be doing what you're ALREADY currently doing?
For optimal health? Probably yes.
Do you look like you're in extreme dire danger and deserve to get the **kitten** scared out of you?
Probably not.
And what's the point? (since you're already working on it).
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laurawaterman19 wrote: »Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore
why are you even caring what someone with NO qualifications even THINKS?
look, ditch the person (as a consultant but id also probably ditch as a friend for treating me like *kitten*). Work on creating sustainable habits regarding food and exercise that will help you achieve your goals. consult with your DOCTOR about any health issues or concerns. Nothing is going to happen fast. Be patient. Be consistent. Youll get there.4 -
laurawaterman19 wrote: »Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore
Laura, there is nothing "wrong" with the way you look, and 30% is not dire straits leading directly into diabetes and pulmonary embolisms... not necessarily. Your "coach", and I use that term even looser than you do, is crying wolf and pulling the fire alarm on you when really what is happening is that you've got the heat turned up a bit too high on the bbq grill.
Unless this family/friend/coach with no training as a dietitian or personal trainer is actually employed as a certified physician, I'd throw what they are saying out the window.
Maintain healthy eating habits at a slight caloric deficit, start or continue some strength training and I suspect you'll loose the little bit of belly fat in good time, at a healthy rate.
It's clear that this person is really just causing you stress and anxiety over this... thank her for raising your cortisol levels and adding to the problem (sarcasm), but that you'll take care of it from here.
Best of luck to you, check in with the forum group often- it's great here for realistic reinforcement and positivity.9 -
laurawaterman19 wrote: »Please tell me you aren't paying this person anything...
You definitely have weight to lose, but nothing that screams "omg, health scare!!" And yes, all those body fat scales are inaccurate. You could one reading in the morning and a completely different one at night. However, as long as you are losing weight, body fat percentage isn't really that important. Keep eating well and strength training and your body fat will drop.
No, I'm not paying her. I'll stop stressing. Well, I'll try. It's difficult when I'm getting the 3rd degree from her for being so unhealthy. I just need to keep going and losing weight and then it won't be an issue anymore
Even though she's family you don't have to discuss it with her if the 3rd degree is upsetting you
I find "thank you for your concern but I don't want to discuss this anymore, I have it under control" works well followed by a subject change0 -
I've been following this thread since the OP started. OP, I think you look great in the photo, and I wished I still looked as good. There's no way I'm posting a photo of myself in a two piece or underwear online! You have some weight to lose but the "coach" is being ridiculous. Just continue what you are doing as others have said. Don't let her destroy your confidence.1
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Your picture shows you all you need to know - you have some weight/fat to lose, not a huge amount. No need for alarm.
I have an instinctive dislike of unqualified "coaches".
When I was an advanced motorcycling riding coach and a rugby coach I had to do courses to learn the subjects and pass assessments and exams to ensure I reached the required standard.....
As she is family it's harder but if you aren't getting either knowledge or support from her then it's time to step away or take control with a frank exchange about encouragement and support versus being a drama llama!
You look more like 30% BF to me which is high end of average.
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VintageFeline wrote: »laurawaterman19 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »While I absolutely agree the scales can be inaccurate I think getting a scan is really unnecessary for the general population. I'm very much into human physiology, lean mass, gaining and losing fat and lean mass, strength training, all that stuff. I still wouldn't go and get a scan, visual is good enough for me.
Thanks for your input. So visually then, how would you feel about my body composition and my level of fat?
I actually think around 30% is right. Your legs and arms are a bit lower but due to the middle/belly it bumps it up and as mentioned, that is the the least ideal place to store excess.The good news is that with the rest of you being relatively leaner it should come off your tummy at a nice pace now. Just keep going and see where you are as you progress.
I absolutely advocate for strength training of some description, it will help retain lean mass that we inevitably lose as we lose weight and once at goal/a happy place it will continue to improve your composition.
I agree with this. Definitely incorporate strength training into your program, and do whatever cardio you find enjoyable, and don't limit yourself to the traditional boring stuff that people feel they have to do.1 -
I’d also add well done for posting your photo, not sure I’m brave enough to do that! You can def do this without worrying about the BF %0
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