Coffee or Diet Coke ?
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Cutting out coffee, diet coke and all artificial sweeteners would be extremely detrimental to my weight management. Craving a sweet taste wouldn't lead me to eating more fruit, it would lead to eating all the cookies and sweet snacks with "natural" ingredients. Also, in my case, caffeine helps me manage migraines, and helps me regulate the desire to snack when I'm not actually hungry. I'm 67 years old, in almost perfect health, and lost 50 lbs over the past year and a half. Just my n=1, throw it in with the rest of the "why aspartame isn't scary" proponents, and for pete's sake read that thread. All the peer-reviewed studies that people are demanding are referenced there.2
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It's all about the calories. Little else matters in weight loss until you get to really low bodyfat percentages.
I drink coffee with one shot of cream ~40kcals. One in the morning and another in the afternoon. That amounts to ~2% of my daily caloric intake.3 -
ladyhusker39 wrote: »Iwantahealthierme30 wrote: »Depends how much diet coke you're drinking. If it's everyday give up diet coke. If it's like once a week than you don't have to give it up.
Sounds a bit arbitrary to me. Why is one bad and the other OK? Where exactly is the "line" because you seem to be drawing one and I'd like to understand where it is.
Aspartame isn't good for you and diet drinks cause you to look for sugar elsewhere so it would hinder weight loss.33 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Also, check your creamer ingredients. Many of the flavored ones are non-dairy, meaning it’s mostly water and sugar (usually high fructose corn syrup). I almost died when I actually looked at ingredients. You can buy organic half and half that is only milk and cream.
So you'd been consuming it for a while without feeling any ill effects and you almost died when you noticed what was in it?
Maybe the problem isn't with the ingredients but with your perception of them.
Nope, not perception. Not anything noticeable alone, but it was only one bit of the artificial fake food to be cut out...and after getting rid of all of it, yes, felt much better.
Nobody is going to die if they put a tiny bit of crap in their diet. But why be so angry about someone suggesting to be aware of it? I’m not some whole, clean food zealot...I don’t care what other people choose to eat/drink. Eating whole, natural, organic foods will never be bad. Why eat fake sugar if you need or want to?
Actually I used to be on the organic bandwagon until I couldn't afford it anymore, and until I realized that the USDA does not really check up on companies who claim to be organic - and I was throwing a lot of money away for a pricey label.
I have actually felt much better physically every time I controlled my calorie intake, made sure I was adequately hydrated, increased exercise, all while paying attention to my nutrients: eating enough protein, fat, fiber, calcium, etc....without worrying about organic vs. non-organic. I eat/drink things that taste good to me - I'm not hyped up about "fake this" or "fake that." I eat a LOT of Lean Cuisines and other "processed" foods.
I personally don't eat artificially sweetened food because I hate the taste of it - I do not think there is anything wrong with it though. Most of the sources I have seen of the "stay away from scary processed or artificially sweetened foods" are from Practitioners of Woo.
If you feel good eating lean cuisines, then do that. The sodium content alone in those meals makes me feel awful.
I don't eat Lean Cuisines, but I pulled up the nutrition information for one at random and found that it has 600 mg of sodium (https://www.leancuisine.com/products/details/3). That's the amount in about 2 pickle spears (http://www.cookinglight.com/eating-smart/nutrition-101/how-much-salt-is-in-a-pickle) or two 100 g servings of cottage cheese or 100 calories of olives, all foods I can eat happily. It's also the amount in about one-third of a teaspoon of kosher salt. So if that really makes you feel awful, probably you are unusually sensitive to salt.
I personally like cooking lots of vegetables and such as part of a meal (so do many people who occasionally eat Lean Cuisines, I'd bet), but I often toss a pinch of salt on them when cooking. So I guess that's bad too.7 -
Well, that went a little left field....
If you want to continue the various debates that arose in this thread see the split made here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627870/cutting-out-coffee-or-diet-coke/p1?new=1
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Its up to you. You dont really have to give anything up unless you are eliminating it just for more calories for something else. Coffee is my biggest dietary hurdle..ive found that portion controlling my milk and creamer (yes I use both, dont hate lol) is doable and i organically have moved to less coffee because I don't like it as much when its not the sugar bomb that I love. I actually started putting my second cup of coffee black frozen into ice cubes in my shake...a good way to get that caff in without the calories. I have also actually started drinking cherry coke zero again because I guess I still like it (gave it up for years because pregnancy/breastfeeding) and I find it keeps me going between my 3pm post-workout meal and my dinner.0
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Its up to you. You dont really have to give anything up unless you are eliminating it just for more calories for something else. Coffee is my biggest dietary hurdle..ive found that portion controlling my milk and creamer (yes I use both, dont hate lol) is doable and i organically have moved to less coffee because I don't like it as much when its not the sugar bomb that I love. I actually started putting my second cup of coffee black frozen into ice cubes in my shake...a good way to get that caff in without the calories. I have also actually started drinking cherry coke zero again because I guess I still like it (gave it up for years because pregnancy/breastfeeding) and I find it keeps me going between my 3pm post-workout meal and my dinner.
Cherry Coke Zero > pretty much everything else, folks.
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Help what should I give up first coffee with cream and sugar coffee with nonfat milk and equal or Diet Coke ? I want to give up one and then slowly get rid of the other which would you give up first?
My original response to you got caught up in the threadjacking, so this is a new and improved version
If you are trying to cut back on caffeine, there is more in the coffee than the diet soda, so you should get more bang for your buck cutting back on coffee.
If you are trying to lose weight, diet soda doesn't really affect that if you are tracking your calories, so the coffee is again your best bet. You can either cut it out, or learn to drink it with less calories (that's what I did). A splash of milk or a little flavored creamer can easily be less than 50 cals, if that's something you can get used to!
If you personally consider them bad habits that you want to break, I would start with whichever is easiest so you get a fast win. Replacing a habit you want to get rid of with a new habit that is in line with your goals is usually the best way to do that. But as many others have said, I don't personally think coffee or diet soda in moderation is a problem, unless you have a health issue.
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I see the othe thread is closed but I just had to add this exciting news - todays Lean Cuisine has ACV in it! So it’s OK, right??0
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OP have you been back to clarify why you feel compelled to give up any of those beverage options?1
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Iwantahealthierme30 wrote: »ladyhusker39 wrote: »Iwantahealthierme30 wrote: »Depends how much diet coke you're drinking. If it's everyday give up diet coke. If it's like once a week than you don't have to give it up.
Sounds a bit arbitrary to me. Why is one bad and the other OK? Where exactly is the "line" because you seem to be drawing one and I'd like to understand where it is.
Aspartame isn't good for you and diet drinks cause you to look for sugar elsewhere so it would hinder weight loss.
I'll just leave this here for you for some helpful reading... also,I've been drinking diet soda for > 25 years and it does not cause me to look for sugar elsewhere.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p12 -
Don't give up either. You can cut elsewhere. I can't drink coffee black, so I do one packet of sugar in the raw and 1tsp of creamer. and if I drink soda its cherry coke zero (the other ones are just disgusting).1
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Oh, give me a break. Half and half has 20 calories per tablespoon, sugar has 16 calories per teaspoon. Coffee with cream and sugar is not a "calorie bomb" at all and you can budget for it just like you can any other food. You don't have to "learn to like it dark". That's not what CICO is about at all.
Deprive yourself of something you love and you're asking for trouble when you start resenting the deprivation down the road.
Ya, when people complain about the calories in coffee I wonder what all they are putting into it. I used to use 16 calories worth of sugar and 10 calories or less of half & half; now I add protein powder, fat, and fiber, and call it breakfast.0 -
I'd give up coffee with nonfat milk and Equal, and Diet Coke first because I don't consume either of those items. You can pry my coffee with half and half out of my cold dead hands. I'm not giving it up. I've tried a few times and then just decided it was stupid to give up something that brings such enjoyment to my life. Plus I find it really filling and satiating.0
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Ditch the coffee, it tastes like someone farted in a cup. Trade the Diet Coke for Diet Dr Pepper.2
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If you're trying to give up coffee to reduce calories maybe try switching it to black if you can tolerate it? I now drink my coffee with a splash of unsweetened almond milk and a little Stevia. It's not the best cup of coffee in the world by any means, but it does the trick in the morning and is low calorie.
If you're trying to cut out caffeine just to cut it out or for other health reasons I'd personally cut soda first. I need the caffeine in the morning. When I gave up regular coke it was nasty withdrawals and coffee was the only help! I don't feel like I have an addiction to coffee like I did to soda.0 -
Oh, give me a break. Half and half has 20 calories per tablespoon, sugar has 16 calories per teaspoon. Coffee with cream and sugar is not a "calorie bomb" at all and you can budget for it just like you can any other food. You don't have to "learn to like it dark". That's not what CICO is about at all...
Well it depends on your perspective and how much you use. I never used sugar in my coffee but I did use probably at least two tablespoons of milk or half-and-half. Multiply that by the five or six cups of coffee I had a day... You've now got 202 240 calories. That I could spend on food rather than on my coffee. That is why I taught myself to like my coffee black. I now love my black coffee and wouldn't consider putting milk or cream in it again.
When I was on Weight Watchers the amount of milk that I put in my coffee by the end of the day added up to at least four or five points. When you only have 27 points to begin with... And fewer and fewer as you lose weight... You learn to sacrifice where you can. LOL
With the exception of wine I prefer not to drink my calories... That's why I started drinking my coffee black.0
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