Started jogging --- and no weight loss
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WhereIsPJSoles wrote: »How long have you been tracking calories?
Six months.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »If you're overweight and not losing weight, you're not doing everything correctly. But fear not, weightloss is simple even if it isn't always easy: You lose weight when you consistently, and for real, over time, take in fewer calories than you burn.
You have to set an appropriate calorie target, log your food intake correctly, hit your calorie target every day, weigh yourself regularly, and for a long time, to see weight loss.
Only one of these factors can prevent you from losing: Picking faulty food entries, not logging everything that has calories, not logging the correct amount, cheat days. Two or more factors will increase inaccuracy exponentially. Water weight fluctuations (water retained from exercise, higher intake of carbs or salt than normal, where you are in your menstrual cycle, digesting food), can mask weightloss.
A "low metabolism" does not prevent weight loss.
Your question is impossible to answer properly.
Kriss actually has a post with the USDA Database for food logging that will really help you immensely with logging correctly OP. I've got it linked below.
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
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Also do you measure yourself? in the beginning youll lose size before weight (generally) your post routine could definitely be improved upon but is a good start
my diary is public if you want to add me getting ideas may help 0 -
Six months with no change in weight?0
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Could you open up your diary so maybe other users could see, for example, if you’re logging something frequently that is an incorrect entry?0
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dinadyna21 wrote: »It most likely is water retention but if you still don't see any change after a few more weeks you might wanna take a look at your logging.
What rate of loss are you trying to do? 1/2 lb, 1lb, 2lbs? With 1300 BMR you're not gonna have a lot of wiggle room to be inaccurate, not saying that you are, but it's important to have consistent and correct logging or your weight loss will continue to stall.
If you want you can open your diary so people can see if maybe you're missing something.
I mean... the lowest I could eat would be 1,200 calories. The dietician mentioned I could probably max lose about 2lbs a month because of how low my metabolism is at rest.5 -
Thank you everyone for your comments, but honestly if we could keep this focused on exercise that would be great.WhereIsPJSoles wrote: »Six months with no change in weight?
Well I should restate that. I did lose about 8lbs a few month back (May/June?) after getting off some antidepressants. Gained it back in two weeks while in Nepal despite walking for 4-5 hours and eating lentils.
*shrugs*
My doctor will be testing me for a few things. Thank god my thyroid is normal. But we still need to look at other hormones.7 -
2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.5
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Seattlegirl25 wrote: »Thank you everyone for your comments, but honestly if we could keep this focused on exercise that would be great.WhereIsPJSoles wrote: »Six months with no change in weight?
Well I should restate that. I did lose about 8lbs a few month back (May/June?) after getting off some antidepressants. Gained it back in two weeks while in Nepal despite walking for 4-5 hours and eating lentils.
*shrugs*
My doctor will be testing me for a few things. Thank god my thyroid is normal. But we still need to look at other hormones.
Lentils can still pack a lot of calories if you eat too much. Do you weigh your food on a food scale OP?4 -
Seattlegirl25 wrote: »I'm curious, are you drinking alcohol at all? Are you making sure you are drinking plenty of water? Are you making sure you stop eating before 7PM?
Have you tried exercising in the morning on an empty stomach? Just curious on all of these.
Also, are you mixing things up a little, like running / biking / etc?
I got crazy and drank 3.5 ounces of red wine last night. If I excerise on an empty belly I get REALLY dizzy. Because of my work schedule, my work hours are nutty. I try to finish consuming food before 9pm at the latest. I usually end up jogging in the evenings.ashliedelgado wrote: »I'm curious, are you drinking alcohol at all? Are you making sure you are drinking plenty of water? Are you making sure you stop eating before 7PM?
Have you tried exercising in the morning on an empty stomach? Just curious on all of these.
Also, are you mixing things up a little, like running / biking / etc?
Ignore this. You can drink alcohol, though it may cause a little weight retention via water. You can eat any time you want. Your body can't tell time and doesn't stop functioning at a certain time.
NO, you shouldn't ignore this. I'm not saying you can't drink alcohol, was just asking if she was. If you drink a glass of wine that is fine, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a ton, which it sounds like it isn't.16 -
kommodevaran wrote: »Genetics will not prevent someone from losing weight if a deficit is present, medical conditions will not prevent someone from losing weight if a deficit is present.
If she's not losing weight there is no deficit present. Her BMR might be making it difficult for her to achieve that deficit but it's still the only thing she needs to lose weight.
And yes it is that simple, it's not easy but it is simple.
Not necessarily true. Take for instance Hypothyroidism (extreme cases). I was working out and eating at a defecit and gained over 100lbs in 4.5 months. It wasn't until I was finally diagnosed and after years of getting my levels right that I was able to start losing weight again. And even with that being said, there are some intolerances I have that mess up my levels even on the medication (ie: soy). Just saying.
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Things I would try:
1. Change up your workout routine. Our bodies get used to routines very quickly, and those exercises won't do the same things for us anymore. Do you belong to a gym? Variations include new leg, arm, abdomen exercises and I would change up monthly. It targets different muscle groups, which in turn will help burn more calories. Also changing up your cardio. Start doing the stairmaster or the elliptical. You are working your body in different ways, which will stimulate weight loss in most cases
3. Add more water to your diet... a big thing (as others have mentioned) is water weight. How do you get rid of excess water weight? Drinking more water. I would strive for a gallon a day, if you are active.
5. Try changing up your diet. I just started Keto, and it's going great so far.
7. Test more than just your metabolic rate... Make sure you get some full panels done. There are lots of disorders that can cause weight gain, which could be what is happening only oyu are still buring calories and at a defecit, so you see no change.
9. Keep track of your measurements. You may be gaining muscle and therefore not seeing the scale move, but you're still losing inches.
Keep in mind the body fluctuates in weight up to and sometimes over 10lbs per day due to water weight. This is normal.
Also, make sure you are weighing yourself at the same time every day. If possible, first thing in the morning after you pee.
I hope this helps!!!
I may have a long way to go myself but I used to run bootcamps and do personal training back before my thyroid issues came about. It has been a whole new game for me. But I am educated on a lot of this.
Feel free to add me Good luck!
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dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.25 -
dinadyna21 wrote: »Seattlegirl25 wrote: »Thank you everyone for your comments, but honestly if we could keep this focused on exercise that would be great.WhereIsPJSoles wrote: »Six months with no change in weight?
Well I should restate that. I did lose about 8lbs a few month back (May/June?) after getting off some antidepressants. Gained it back in two weeks while in Nepal despite walking for 4-5 hours and eating lentils.
*shrugs*
My doctor will be testing me for a few things. Thank god my thyroid is normal. But we still need to look at other hormones.
Lentils can still pack a lot of calories if you eat too much. Do you weigh your food on a food scale OP?
Yup. I said this earlier.0 -
Seattlegirl25 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.
People suspecting that you may be eating more than you think doesn't equate to assumptions that you're "gorging on cookies." People can fail to lose weight due to all types of foods, some of them in relatively moderate serving sizes. And none of us are born with an innate sense of how to log accurately.17 -
herownkindofwonderfull wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »Genetics will not prevent someone from losing weight if a deficit is present, medical conditions will not prevent someone from losing weight if a deficit is present.
If she's not losing weight there is no deficit present. Her BMR might be making it difficult for her to achieve that deficit but it's still the only thing she needs to lose weight.
And yes it is that simple, it's not easy but it is simple.
Not necessarily true. Take for instance Hypothyroidism (extreme cases). I was working out and eating at a defecit and gained over 100lbs in 4.5 months. It wasn't until I was finally diagnosed and after years of getting my levels right that I was able to start losing weight again. And even with that being said, there are some intolerances I have that mess up my levels even on the medication (ie: soy). Just saying.
Seattlegirl25 -
Things I would try:
1. Change up your workout routine. Our bodies get used to routines very quickly, and those exercises won't do the same things for us anymore. Do you belong to a gym? Variations include new leg, arm, abdomen exercises and I would change up monthly. It targets different muscle groups, which in turn will help burn more calories. Also changing up your cardio. Start doing the stairmaster or the elliptical. You are working your body in different ways, which will stimulate weight loss in most cases
3. Add more water to your diet... a big thing (as others have mentioned) is water weight. How do you get rid of excess water weight? Drinking more water. I would strive for a gallon a day, if you are active.
5. Try changing up your diet. I just started Keto, and it's going great so far.
7. Test more than just your metabolic rate... Make sure you get some full panels done. There are lots of disorders that can cause weight gain, which could be what is happening only oyu are still buring calories and at a defecit, so you see no change.
9. Keep track of your measurements. You may be gaining muscle and therefore not seeing the scale move, but you're still losing inches.
Keep in mind the body fluctuates in weight up to and sometimes over 10lbs per day due to water weight. This is normal.
Also, make sure you are weighing yourself at the same time every day. If possible, first thing in the morning after you pee.
I hope this helps!!!
I may have a long way to go myself but I used to run bootcamps and do personal training back before my thyroid issues came about. It has been a whole new game for me. But I am educated on a lot of this.
Feel free to add me Good luck!
How low was your BMR with I'm guessing untreated hypothyroidism? Based on how much you say you gained during the course of 4.5 months you would need to be eating 2500 calories over your TDEE to gain that much that quickly.
Clearly there was no deficit present, Hypothyroidism can't create matter out of thin air.
Anyone here with Hypothyroidism can tell you that while it might challenging it's not impossible to lose weight with this condition.9 -
You asked for help. We try to help, even if we don't have to, and don't get paid. You don't have to listen to any advice. But if what you're doing now, isn't working, it could be useful to check out if you've overlooked something. You could buckle down and stick to a calorie deficit. No diets, no trainers, no nutritionists. Just set your calorie target to 1200 - this is the absolute minimum MFP will go, but it's also below your measured BMR, so it has to produce weight loss. Nobody thinks you are gorging on cookies. Just a small surplus of calories, daily, but over time, is enough to gain considerable weight. But this also means that just a small deficit, over time, is enough to lose considerable weight.Seattlegirl25 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.
Challenging you beliefs is harder than any physical exercise, and way more important and useful.24 -
Seattlegirl25 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.
Seattlegirl25 I feel your frustration, I was in your same boat. Exercising like mad, eating right and still my weight would barely budge. It all came down to realizing that I was still eating at maintenance to meet the needs of my body. Please know that no one is trying to attack you, we all want you to succeed. Take the database I gave you, https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list, and look up everything you eat, weigh it on a food scale and log them in MFP. I can assure you, you'll see changes.7 -
dinadyna21 wrote: »Seattlegirl25 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.
Seattlegirl25 I feel your frustration, I was in your same boat. Exercising like mad, eating right and still my weight would barely budge. It all came down to realizing that I was still eating at maintenance to meet the needs of my body. Please know that no one is trying to attack you, we all want you to succeed. Take the database I gave you, https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list, and look up everything you eat, weigh it on a food scale and log them in MFP. I can assure you, you'll see changes.
Been weighing my food. Weight loss-- 0.4 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
You asked for help. We try to help, even if we don't have to, and don't get paid. You don't have to listen to any advice. But if what you're doing now, isn't working, it could be useful to check out if you've overlooked something. You could buckle down and stick to a calorie deficit. No diets, no trainers, no nutritionists. Just set your calorie target to 1200 - this is the absolute minimum MFP will go, but it's also below your measured BMR, so it has to produce weight loss. Nobody thinks you are gorging on cookies. Just a small surplus of calories, daily, but over time, is enough to gain considerable weight. But this also means that just a small deficit, over time, is enough to lose considerable weight.Seattlegirl25 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »2lbs a month is still progress, you haven't had any in 6 months despite working out and logging which leads a lot of us to think the issue is more than likely your food diary entries.
Yea. Everyone does. *shrug*
Honestly, I do take things on here with a huge grain of salt. Everyone believes they are a nutritionist and dietician. And thats not to attack anyone, but more of, this is the internet. You can only see snapshots of my life and make calls on that and vice-versa.
I am tired of this *kitten* (weight not coming off). But for years I have told doctors I've had *kitten* metabolism and they all chuckled and rolled their eyes. Now with this test they are pausing a bit.
I've had personal trainers.
Low carb
High intensity work outs
nutritionists
I mean you name it, I've done it. I'm sick of people just thinking I am gorging on cookies. But I've come to expect that people don't believe me.
Anyway... sorry for the rant. I'm tired and cranky.
Challenging you beliefs is harder than any physical exercise, and way more important and useful.
Thanks for the pep talk.2 -
Dear OP,
It would still be very helpful if you could tell us how you are measuring the calories you are eating (e.g. measuring cups, weighing in grams, using packaging information) and how long you've done that for. Then you might get some more tailored advice to help see if you are achieving the deficit you need.
Regarding exercise, when I started a new routine I had a little over two weeks of gaining (water) weight before it normalised, so you might see some changes in a couple of weeks.0
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