Binge Eating and Raw Veganism

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UltraVegAthlete
UltraVegAthlete Posts: 667 Member
edited January 2018 in Health and Weight Loss
Backstory: January 2017 to August 2017 — went from 145 lbs to 112 lbs by eating mostly low fat, high raw vegan, plus was training for a marathon, riding my bike in the Summer, and competing in track. Period of extreme hunger started in August (would binge every other day to once a week on mostly granola, tahini, Dates, and sweet potatoes). College started in September 2017, binge ate once a week on bananas and dried fruit, sometimes an entire jar of almond butter... Transfered to a college in my hometown and am living at home, binging still once a week on more unhealthy food (bread, entire jar of peanut butter, vegan icecream). I’m now around 120-128 lbs, haven’t checked in a couple weeks...
I’ve decided to avoid further binging by going back to raw veganism, because I honestly didn’t feel restricted when I was eating that way. Sometimes I wish I could be allergic to nuts to avoid some of my trigger foods. Any thoughts?
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  • WhereIsPJSoles
    WhereIsPJSoles Posts: 622 Member
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    I have nothing against raw veganism, but am worried by the mentality of wishing you were allergic to certain foods in combination with binge/restrict cycles. You can eat however you want, but speaking to a professional (maybe they have counselors specifically for this at your school) wouldn’t hurt.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    How tall are you? Sometimes if you go down too low/push yourself too hard you can end up feeling uncontrollable hunger, and being super restrictive seems likely to encourage that.

    I also think that very often therapy is what will help with binge eating, whereas restricting more (and then binging when you going off the restriction at all and feeling shame and self-hatred, etc.) can simply exacerbate it. That you are young and at a time of your life that can be very stressful makes me think especially this would be a good idea for you.
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
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    Backstory: January 2017 to August 2017 — went from 145 lbs to 112 lbs by eating mostly low fat, high raw vegan, plus was training for a marathon, riding my bike in the Summer, and competing in track. Period of extreme hunger started in August (would binge every other day to once a week on mostly granola, tahini, Dates, and sweet potatoes). College started in September 2017, binge ate once a week on bananas and dried fruit, sometimes an entire jar of almond butter... Transfered to a college in my hometown and am living at home, binging still once a week on more unhealthy food (bread, entire jar of peanut butter, vegan icecream). I’m now around 120-128 lbs, haven’t checked in a couple weeks...
    I’ve decided to avoid further binging by going back to raw veganism, because I honestly didn’t feel restricted when I was eating that way. Sometimes I wish I could be allergic to nuts to avoid some of my trigger foods. Any thoughts?

    Having a child who is allergic to nuts I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Besides you would just find an alternative source (for us its sunflower seeds/butter). Food allergies don't mean you will lose weight. You should speak with someone about your binge eating behavior since it seems to be more of the problem.
  • UltraVegAthlete
    UltraVegAthlete Posts: 667 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    How tall are you? Sometimes if you go down too low/push yourself too hard you can end up feeling uncontrollable hunger, and being super restrictive seems likely to encourage that.

    I also think that very often therapy is what will help with binge eating, whereas restricting more (and then binging when you going off the restriction at all and feeling shame and self-hatred, etc.) can simply exacerbate it. That you are young and at a time of your life that can be very stressful makes me think especially this would be a good idea for you.

    5 ft 5. And I’m reading all these great comments from people, and I apologize to some of you when I said I wish I could be allergic to nuts to avoid binging on them. I wasn’t smart in saying that, because I understand that people can die from being allergic.
    Also, going raw vegan in the first place didn’t spark the binge eating. I loved eating raw. Honestly, I have no idea what happened. One day I woke up, had some watermelon, and then suddenly had this uncontrollable urge to eat a jar of tahini. After that I just kept getting those urges. It’s getting better now, but when I do have those urges it’s hard to control myself. When I was raw, i wasn’t counting calories or consumed with the amount of food I was eating. The weight came off by itself, and even if I was a little under the desired weight for my family and doctor (okay, the doctor told me to get up to 128 lbs and she’d be happy), but I felt great. I think all the concern got in my head so that I justified eating jars of peanut butter/almond butter, loaves of bread, etc etc. With “hey, maybe gaining some weight isn’t so bad...” but I don’t want to gain the weight through these binges. I just want to feel good.
  • UltraVegAthlete
    UltraVegAthlete Posts: 667 Member
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    I see a big red flag in your post - your doctor wanting you to gain weight. I also vaguely remember some other "eating rules" flags in your prior posts. You are either in a bad place or heading towards one. Definitely time to work with some form of mental health professional.

    I was working with a dietician and a therapist for a couple months, but then I moved. I haven’t made time to find another pair of health professionals I trust, and I’m trying to see if I can do this on my own.
  • ccsernica
    ccsernica Posts: 1,040 Member
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    Orthorexia won't fix anything. See a professional.
  • UltraVegAthlete
    UltraVegAthlete Posts: 667 Member
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    ccsernica wrote: »
    Orthorexia won't fix anything. See a professional.

    Debatable. And I don’t see it as orthorexia. Just a desire to feel good by eating Whole Foods. But thank you! I’ll see about finding a professional.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    I'm glad you are open to that and have a good attitude (sometimes it can feel like everyone is telling you what to do). I think it's the right choice. Good to figure out the bingeing thing at your age too, since if you don't deal with it it will likely keep popping back up whatever you try. (I wish I'd dealt with some of my stuff with a professional back then instead of waiting many years.)
  • 150poundsofme
    150poundsofme Posts: 523 Member
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  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    If I was your weight and height while being raw vegan I'd be hungry all the time because my body would be crying out for food. I love raw vegan food and it forms a good part of my diet but I need more protein in it for satiety.
  • lucerorojo
    lucerorojo Posts: 790 Member
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    I know there are some elite athletes who are vegans so it is not impossible. I was a vegan for 3years and considered raw. I didn't do it and now I'm an omnivore.

    How did you transition to raw vegan? Was it gradual from vegetarian to vegan to raw vegan? How long did it take and how long have you been training/competing?

    I agree you should get professional help. But also I'm assuming you are young, early 20s to be in college. You are still growing. It is a lot of stress you are putting on your body to eat raw and compete. If this was not gradual with a period of adjustment it doesn't sound strange to me that your body would fight back to survive with the overeating. That is a lot of weight lost and it takes a lot of planning to eat well as a vegan, more so for raw.it sounds to me like your body was starving and the response to eat is normal. It is just harder to get the protein without animal products so it seems like more.

    This is one of the reasons I went back to eating meat. Having a busy active life I didn't have enough time to prepare my food, couldn't eat well as a vegan. It was just easier to do it with meat. I'm not saying that you should do that -- you just need to make sure you are getting proper nutrition eating that way and get the professional help.