KETO

jessereysmith1993

So, does the KETO diet work for some of you? If so how long did it take your body to switch over ? I love read a lot of reviews but I guess you can never have to much info.
Thanks,

pessxx

I have a lot of friends real and virtual who have succeeded with Keto diet, it worked fine for them and they got real good and amazing results, including my best friend
For me it did not work, either combined with IF,with OMAD ,with just simple keto, taking all their advice , having all their good thoughts

I found that worked for me is freedom, no frustration, no low carb, no limit of what I don't know what food and so on, controlling and planning but respecting what you want, what you feel
Less stress, more weightloss , less frustration more results
This is how it goes for me

MegaTunez11

keto is a good shred diet. It really works if you stick to the diet and do cardio. Def worth doing 2 months before summer.

livingleanlivingclean

Calorie deficit, regardless of macro breakdown, works for everyone. Keto "works" if you're in a deficit, just the same as any other way of eating.

kommodevaran

Keto works for some, but calorie deficit works for everybody.
You can indeed have too much info.
Critical thinking is important.

sijomial

FYI - the forums have a search function.
You will find eleventy million keto threads already existing and very too recent as keto is desperately fashionable right now. You will find all the info (well opinions anyway!) you could possibly imagine, quite possibly a lot of information you couldn't imagine!

lemurcat12

Are you seeking a debate? I believe there's already a recent keto thread in the debate section if you are (here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10629284/keto-diet#latest).

(Just in case you did not know, and because I'm seeing the all caps a lot lately, keto is short for ketogenic, not an acronym. Not a correction, you can use caps as you prefer, obviously, but in case that is helpful information.)

hamboba1

Hello, I started the KETO diet 2 years ago because of high blood sugar. I did not eat candy or drink soda, but my doctor explained to me that Carbs do the same thing. I ate huge servings of cereal for breakfast, and corn chips and salsa we my favorite snack. I found out first, anything over 25g an hour gets converted to fat, which is where the cholesterol problems start. Imagine, there is more cholesterol danger from a 44 oz. soda than 6 eggs a day.
On this diet, you have to keep carbs low, my goal is 30g a day. It takes getting used to, but I lost 40 pounds with normal daily routine, no extra exercise. My A1C went from 10.8 to 5.3, and I have maintaned below 5.7 for over a year.
The food is great, I'm never tired during the day, I can go hours without being hungry, I have not found a down side yet!
I recommend giving it a try.

lemurcat12

hamboba1 wrote: »

Hello, I started the KETO diet 2 years ago because of high blood sugar. I did not eat candy or drink soda, but my doctor explained to me that Carbs do the same thing. I ate huge servings of cereal for breakfast, and corn chips and salsa we my favorite snack. I found out first, anything over 25g an hour gets converted to fat, which is where the cholesterol problems start.

If by the bolded you mean that you gain total fat regardless of the calories you are consuming, that is obviously not true. Whether or not carbs get converted to fat depends on (among other things) whether glycogen stores are full, and they probably are not in a deficit. You won't gain net fat in a deficit in any case.

I had a super high carb breakfast today (half a serving of steel cut oats, walnuts, a banana, cauliflower rice, a huge serving of brussels sprouts, zucchini, and some tofu -- believe me, it adds up to lots of carbs!). The idea that this means I will put on fat even if I'm in a deficit for the day strikes me as silly, and if someone eats 3 meals (as many, like me, do), you are essentially saying that we would gain fat if we ate more than 75 carbs, and again that's obviously not at all true.

Those claims aside, sounds like keto is working for you, and that's great. I did keto briefly and didn't mind it, but I missed some foods (fruit, plus potatoes and sweet potatoes, especially, as well as most beans and lentils and having to worry if I had too many veg and nuts in the same day, and I was doing only 50 g, not 30 g). So for a lot of us that might be a big drawback. For others, you get to eat the foods you love most without worrying too much about it (since you save calories in other areas) and -- one hopes -- you will use your carbs to get in as many veg as possible.

Personally, though, I lost weight easily without doing keto and am never hungry eating a good diet, even with more carbs. So I would not suggest that everyone should do keto. It's a good choice for some, yes, usually those who think the way of eating sounds appealing.

GottaBurnEmAll

hamboba1 wrote: »

Hello, I started the KETO diet 2 years ago because of high blood sugar. I did not eat candy or drink soda, but my doctor explained to me that Carbs do the same thing. I ate huge servings of cereal for breakfast, and corn chips and salsa we my favorite snack. I found out first, anything over 25g an hour gets converted to fat, which is where the cholesterol problems start. Imagine, there is more cholesterol danger from a 44 oz. soda than 6 eggs a day.[/]
On this diet, you have to keep carbs low, my goal is 30g a day. It takes getting used to, but I lost 40 pounds with normal daily routine, no extra exercise. My A1C went from 10.8 to 5.3, and I have maintaned below 5.7 for over a year.
The food is great, I'm never tired during the day, I can go hours without being hungry, I have not found a down side yet!
I recommend giving it a try.

Removing this comparison from the context of overall caloric consumption isn't an exact representation of how the body processes, stores, and uses macronutrients for energy.

I won't get too far into the woods with what gets stored so as not to clutter the discussion, because the main point I'd like to drive home is to emphasize that it's not the amount of carbohydrates you eat, it's how many calories you eat that determine whether or not fat gets permanently stored.

To the point of the original post, any way of eating that causes a restriction of calorie intake that is less than what you burn will work.

As to whether that diet is optimal for you, be that diet keto or any other is down to personal preference. Some people find the food choices on keto too restrictive because that kind of structure doesn't suit their personalities, while others find those restrictions are helpful with health issues they have and still others thrive on that sort of restriction because structure suits their personalities.

The main thing to keep in mind with any way of eating is that it's honestly best to learn not only as much as you can about the ins and outs of *that* particular way of eating, but about weight loss in general and how it works. And learn from a variety of sources so that you can separate the wheat from the chaff. There's a lot of bad science out there, especially about low carb. It's a fine way to eat, it doesn't need the extraneous and untrue window dressing that people give it, tbh.

The reason that you need that knowledge is that if you try something and don't like it, at least you'll have the knowledge going forward to try something else. The biggest issues with any weight loss endeavor (or fitness endeavor) are compliance and sustainability.

Someone might come along one day and be able to scientifically prove that drinking yak milk mixed with lemon juice to curdle it on an empty stomach three times a day is the secret to the fastest weight loss ever, even though other methods will work just fine. And you know what, I'm sure some people would do that. But not me. Because I couldn't get past that first sip, let alone keep it up. And if I managed a day or two of that crazy diet, I'm sure I'd be craving some broccoli or potatoes by the third day and give in.

So yeah, if keto suits your preferences, it's fine.

AnvilHead

Good read by Lyle McDonald: All Diets Work - The Importance of Calories.

murp4069

It works for some, not for all. I was miserable doing keto. But I have a friend that really thrives doing it. If you want to try it, then try it. If it works for you, great. If not, no big deal. There are so many threads about keto recently, and tons of other information online as well. It's clearly very trendy right now. Read up about keto flu and how to mitigate or avoid it the best you can, perhaps try prepping your first week of meals at once so it is easy to stay on track.

nvmomketo

Try the low carber daily and keto MFP groups. You'll get a lot of information there.

Wheelhouse15

nvmomketo wrote: »

Try the low carber daily and keto MFP groups. You'll get a lot of information there.

I think that's a much better place to ask then the debates board since it's a question for information rather than a debate starter. Maybe a mod can move this to a more appropriate forum?

TyTravis007

In my case, Keto lifestyle has been very beneficial.

Some background: I'm an endurance athlete and suffer from hypoglycemia. Before I started Keto I was under the traditional american diet (lots of carbs, avoidance of fat). Because I was following the American dietary guidelines, I've suffered from at least one glycemic event a week. I was very moody and had issues with being antsy.

Then I started keto when I was 16 (2015). After suffering through the week long "conversion" period (when your body starts getting used to using fat as a fuel source) I started to notice an incredible difference. My hypoglycemia has been non-existent, my endurance sports have improved drastically (I went from a 2:30:00 half marathon to a 1:58:00), I no longer became antsy, and my mood has improved greatly. Hell, my GPA has gotten significantly better since I went to keto!

Lots of people think fat makes you fat - that isn't true. Before I went keto I was 5'9 and 150 lbs (8% body fat). Now I'm 19 and I'm still 5'9 and... I'm still 150lbs (8% body fat).

lemurcat12

Traditional American diet does not involve "avoidance of fats" but is considered on the high fat side, worldwide (problem is fats from not very nutrient dense but high cal foods too often). That goes along with the (on average) crazy high cals (for the amount of activity) in the average American diet. It's not as high fat as keto, and it also includes too many refined carbs on average and -- especially -- inadequate veg and fruit, but it's not a "high carb, low fat diet."

If one eats according to the actual guidelines, you'd probably have a pretty good diet. The SAD is nothing like the actual recommendations.

If one has a medical condition like hypoglycemia, one might wish to follow a specific diet. That does not mean everyone should. (I think keto works fine for many, but it's not the best diet for all, or even most, and certainly not healthier in general than the dietary guidelines would be, although if you do it right it can be very healthy, IMO.)

People don't think fat makes you fat any more (except for some outliers, it's not mainstream at all and has not been since before you were born).

lemurcat12

Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

Try the low carber daily and keto MFP groups. You'll get a lot of information there.

I think that's a much better place to ask then the debates board since it's a question for information rather than a debate starter. Maybe a mod can move this to a more appropriate forum?

Yeah, good call.