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saintor1
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Beware.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5309613/Low-carb-diets-linked-risk-birth-defects.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5309613/Low-carb-diets-linked-risk-birth-defects.html
- Women on low carb diets may be at 30 percent greater risk of having a baby with a spinal and neurological birth defect, according to a new study
- These diets, including the Keto diet beloved by Kim Kardashian - whose children were all born health - forces the body to burn fat by depriving it of carbs
- New research from the University of North Carolina found that women on low carb diets also had low folic acid levels
- Folic acid is key to the development of a fetus's spine and skull
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1. daily fail... so there's that.
2. Is it malnourishment or keto that's the issue I'm not a ketovangelist, but it seems like they identified the issue as a supplementation/nutritional factor.
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1. daily fail... so there's that.
So the University of North Carolina works for the Daily Mail, right?6 -
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Well sorry, but that's just noise.
Here is another reference.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180125085105.htm10 -
Well sorry, but that's just noise.
Here is another reference.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180125085105.htm
Which says what I said. It's a deficiency/nutrient/supplementation issue, not a carb/keto issue.
Words have meanings.26 -
Also, most of these dietary sources are keto/low carb friendly
https://www.babycenter.com/0_folic-acid-why-you-need-it-before-and-during-pregnancy_476.bc?page=2
So if you eat foods rich in folate, consider them a complement to your supplement. Good sources include:
•lentils
•dried beans, peas, and nuts
•avocado
•dark green vegetables such as broccoli, spinach, collard or turnip greens, okra, Brussels sprouts, and asparagus
•citrus fruit and juice
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So basically, inadequate folic acid intake is bad? That's been known for a very long time and it's been recommended women trying to get pregnant should supplement regardless of dietary choices.30
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VintageFeline wrote: »So basically, inadequate folic acid intake is bad? That's been known for a very long time and it's been recommended women trying to get pregnant should supplement regardless of dietary choices.
Exactly. and UNC used a clickbait title to ensure funding, probably for a followup.8 -
Not even going to click on a daily fail link, sorry OP...6
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Spinal and other neurological birth defects are closely linked with insufficient folic acid, especially in the first three months. This means the that incidents of these defects rise with insufficient folic acid, not that all women with insufficient supply will give birth to babies with those defects, or that women with sufficient supplies will not.
Medical teams monitor folic acid extremely closely during pregnancy (and recommend beginning supplementing even before becoming pregnant) for all women eating all different ways. Women who eat many different ways can be deficient, hence the focus on supplementation and monitoring during pregnancy.
The correct conclusion would be that women who eat in a way that provides insufficient folic acid to support healthy fetal development (of which keto may be one instance), do not have their levels monitored by a medical team and do not supplement on their own have a higher risk of giving birth to babies with spinal and neurological defects.5 -
And where the article comes from matters, journalists are rarely well versed in interpreting findings from studies.8
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stanmann571 wrote: »Well sorry, but that's just noise.
Here is another reference.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180125085105.htm
Which says what I said. It's a deficiency/nutrient/supplementation issue, not a carb/keto issue.
Words have meanings.
Indeed they have and yours are NOT what University of North Carolina reported.
http://uncnews.unc.edu/2018/01/25/new-unc-chapel-hill-study-links-low-carbohydrate-intake-increased-risk-birth-defects/
Nobody said that it was only about acid folic or a particular nutrient.
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Here I believe is the actual study
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bdr2.1198/full
"we analyzed data from the National Birth Defects Prevention Study from 1,740 mothers of infants, stillbirths, and terminations with anencephaly or spina bifida (cases), and 9,545 mothers of live born infants without a birth defect (controls) conceived between 1998 and 2011. Carbohydrate and folic acid intake before conception were estimated from food frequency questionnaire responses."
And yes, what they really found was that women who eat very low carb are more likely to not be getting enough folic acid.
I mean, I think it's worth reminding women of child-bearing age that they should be supplementing. But "Eating low carb gives your babies spina bifida!!!!" is a little overly dramatic me thinks.20 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Well sorry, but that's just noise.
Here is another reference.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180125085105.htm
Which says what I said. It's a deficiency/nutrient/supplementation issue, not a carb/keto issue.
Words have meanings.
Indeed they have and yours are NOT what University of North Carolina reported.
http://uncnews.unc.edu/2018/01/25/new-unc-chapel-hill-study-links-low-carbohydrate-intake-increased-risk-birth-defects/
Nobody said that it was only about acid folic or a particular nutrient.
Okay so here's the actual study: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bdr2.1198/full
Here's the first sentence of the study:
"Folic acid fortification significantly reduced the prevalence of neural tube defects (NTDs) in the United States. The popularity of “low carb” diets raises concern that women who intentionally avoid carbohydrates, thereby consuming fewer fortified foods, may not have adequate dietary intake of folic acid."
Low card could lead to low folic acid. Take folic acid supplements to decrease change of issues.11 -
Thanks for the original.
Here are another bit of info from it. that seems relevant;There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use,9 -
Thanks for the original.
Here are another bit of info from it. that seems relevant;There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use,
Just tracking folic acid supplement use isn't going to give the whole picture as to whether this is folic acid-related. It's possible that people who aren't on ketogenic diets have a better shot at meeting their folic acid needs through diet and that could be the key difference here once supplement use is taken out of the picture.3 -
Thanks for the original.
Here are another bit of info from it. that seems relevant;There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use,
Please don't cherry pick words without reading the whole paragraph. Your sentence says that between the groups, there were no differences of ADDITIONAL supplements, aka the variables were CONTROLLED.
If you read further down:
"The average estimated daily intake of folic acid and total dietary folate among women with restricted carbohydrate intake was less than half that of women with nonrestricted intake (p < .01)."
So BECAUSE women restricted their carbs and did NOT take supplements, their folic acid levels were lower.8 -
Thanks for the original.
Here are another bit of info from it. that seems relevant;There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use,
The full quote that includes your quote:
"Compared to women with nonrestricted carbohydrate intake, women with restricted intake were more likely to be older, non-Hispanic white, born in the United States, have more years of education, and have higher household income (Table 1). They were also more likely to have consumed alcohol in early pregnancy, and to have planned their pregnancy. There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use, or number of previous pregnancies. "
I believe what that is saying is that woman eating low carb were no more or less likely to use a folic acid supplement, not that a supplement did nothing to help if a woman was eating low carb.2 -
Thanks for the original.
Here are another bit of info from it. that seems relevant;There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use,
The full quote that includes your quote:
"Compared to women with nonrestricted carbohydrate intake, women with restricted intake were more likely to be older, non-Hispanic white, born in the United States, have more years of education, and have higher household income (Table 1). They were also more likely to have consumed alcohol in early pregnancy, and to have planned their pregnancy. There were no differences in BMI, smoking, prenatal vitamin, and/or folic acid supplement use, or number of previous pregnancies. "
I believe what that is saying is that woman eating low carb were no more or less likely to use a folic acid supplement, not that a supplement did nothing to help if a woman was eating low carb.
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