frustrated

jdomal
jdomal Posts: 13 Member
edited November 24 in Motivation and Support
I've been the same weight for two weeks. I measure. I don't have a sweet tooth and I have food allergies so I don't have the same urges for foods that other people seem to deal with. I do yoga, walking and lap swimming (training for swim a mile) and I'm adding weights this week. While I feel stronger, I don't see much difference in how my clothes fit. My belly seems just as big. My arms and legs have never been fat.

The biggest struggle I have is eating enough (please be kind). I'm just not used to eating so much food at 1200 calories seems like a lot of chewing.

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  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    If you are adding strength training where it didn't previously exist you are going to have some water retention that is going to stall the scale temporarily. Don't let it stop you, your body will get adapted, but 3-6 weeks is fairly normal, so don't fret only 2.

    If you are having difficulty getting enough food you can try calorie dense items like nuts or nut butters, dried fruits, cheeses, or fruit smoothies.
  • 88olds
    88olds Posts: 4,534 Member
    What are your goals?

    Are you trying to lose weight? Or recomposition?
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    Tavistock toad...two dieticians and a specialist disagree with you. I wasn't eating enough. As soon as I started eating more, I lost weight. But now I'm in a holding pattern and I am frustrated.

    :huh:
  • JMcGee2018
    JMcGee2018 Posts: 275 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    Tavistock toad...two dieticians and a specialist disagree with you. I wasn't eating enough. As soon as I started eating more, I lost weight. But now I'm in a holding pattern and I am frustrated.

    I find this highly dubious, but if this is true then the logical solution would be to eat more than 1200 calories/day. Even though I doubt it is true, unless you're extremely short you should still be able to lose at 1300-1400/day so upping your calories won't halt your progress.

    CICO always holds true in the end, but the stress placed on your body by eating too little can result in high cortisol levels, which can then cause increased water retention, so that may have been a problem you experienced in the past.

  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    I can understand the frustration. Do you understand how weightloss works?
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    I started at 1200 calories but now I'm exercising more. So to be clear, since I'm exercising more, eat more and I should see results?

  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Mzgarcia10 wrote: »
    If your exercising more it could be that you are gaining muscle weight while still losing fat. Sometimes you can see it in inches not necessarily lbs. Do you take your measurements?

    not from yoga, walking and swimming
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
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  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Mzgarcia10 wrote: »
    If your exercising more it could be that you are gaining muscle weight while still losing fat. Sometimes you can see it in inches not necessarily lbs. Do you take your measurements?

    The most muscle a woman can gain a week is approximately 0.25 lbs, if using a heavy-lifting progressive workout program and on a perfect diet for building muscle, hitting the perfect calories/macros.

    To OP, if it's only been two weeks, be patient.

    And use a food scale.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1
  • 88olds
    88olds Posts: 4,534 Member
    Beware the tendencies to under count intake and over count exercise.

    Despite all the gadgets, the only real tests of your program are the scale and time. Two weeks at the same weight is not a reason to change anything. Stay the course. Don’t get into this eat more/less business, keep going.

    When you’d say you’re adding weights, do you mean you’ve already started? Water retention resulting from new weight training programs is a common issue on weight loss boards. Another reason to give it more time.
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    I use a food scale. I measure. My waist is exactly the same as when I started on January 1. My hips are an inch smaller. Everything else is the same.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    I use a food scale. I measure. My waist is exactly the same as when I started on January 1. My hips are an inch smaller. Everything else is the same.

    If you want to open your food journal, we could maybe help diagnose better.
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
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    I've been tested for thyroidism so many times, I lost count. I have the physical symptoms but my results are always exactly the same and smack in the middle of the normal range. PCOS was ruled out. I do have a complex medical history and take medications which screw around with weight, appetite and metabolism. Before I became ill, I didn't have a weight problem.
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    I use a food scale. I measure. My waist is exactly the same as when I started on January 1. My hips are an inch smaller. Everything else is the same.

    If you want to open your food journal, we could maybe help diagnose better.

    Done
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    88olds wrote: »
    Beware the tendencies to under count intake and over count exercise.

    Despite all the gadgets, the only real tests of your program are the scale and time. Two weeks at the same weight is not a reason to change anything. Stay the course. Don’t get into this eat more/less business, keep going.

    When you’d say you’re adding weights, do you mean you’ve already started? Water retention resulting from new weight training programs is a common issue on weight loss boards. Another reason to give it more time.

    I meet with the trainer tomorrow. I haven't started weights yet. I have RA so there are some things I can't do, some things, I should do, etc. He's going to help me set up a schedule that will work for me that won't injure me or cause a flare. Hopefully.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    If you just started lifting this week your muscles are most likely retaining water due to the new exercise. that water weight can mask fat loss when you step on the scale
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    So you became overweight by eating less than 1200 calories for years and now you lose weight only by eating too much? If you don't agree with informed and helpful users like @TavistockToad then I would encourage you to ask your questions of the dieticians whom you trus and you feel are correct.
  • Being_DeDe33
    Being_DeDe33 Posts: 3 Member
    I changed my setting from 1200 to 1000 calories daily. Don't give up! I hate my stomach too, it is so stubborn. #keepmovingforward
    jdomal wrote: »
    I've been the same weight for two weeks. I measure. I don't have a sweet tooth and I have food allergies so I don't have the same urges for foods that other people seem to deal with. I do yoga, walking and lap swimming (training for swim a mile) and I'm adding weights this week. While I feel stronger, I don't see much difference in how my clothes fit. My belly seems just as big. My arms and legs have never been fat.

    The biggest struggle I have is eating enough (please be kind). I'm just not used to eating so much food at 1200 calories seems like a lot of chewing.

  • amyteacake
    amyteacake Posts: 768 Member
    Like many others have said, weight training can retain a bit more water due to your body trying to heal itself and retaining water for those muscles. Also, walking, yoga and swimming may not lose as much weight as you think it would.

    Also, it's been two weeks. Weight takes some time to come off. Weight only drops off within the first week or so because it's water weight. I wouldn't worry about it so much. But if you're considering adding in a lifting routine, I would suggest upping your calories. When I first started losing weight and weight training I used to eat 1,700 calories. I'm now at 1,450 and have been considering upping it again a little bit.
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    Food scale. Use it. Everything in your diary is a "piece" or a "half-cup", etc. I don't see many things weighed in grams

    One thing that jumped out at me was a "small apple" and "4 slices of cheese". That could be anywhere from 185 calories (like you have), to several hundred calories. Weigh the apple in grams. Weigh the cheese in grams. At the very least, treat it as an experiment and see if you were right. If you were, then you have eliminated another variable. If you were not right, then you've found your answer (or one of them, at least).

    Check out this thread.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1

    i'm just using the mfp choice that best represents what I have in front of me. If the product/manufacturer is represented, I choose that. I have small apples. There are choices, with diameters listed, of small apples. I looked up calories and asked a friend who is a registered dietician. She said there not to worry about weighing apples since they average out and are a low calorie option. My doctor didn't want me worrying myself into a tizzy over each item since I'm only overweight, not obese, and it was my own personal desire to lose weight. As to the 4 slices of cheese: they are pre-sliced. They come in specific sizes, already sliced and the nutrition information is on the side of the package. Four slices is one serving for cheddar. I could convert it to grams but it isn't necessary unless I felt like doing math.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    Those packages can be up to 20% off. Typically on the high side.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    Food scale. Use it. Everything in your diary is a "piece" or a "half-cup", etc. I don't see many things weighed in grams

    One thing that jumped out at me was a "small apple" and "4 slices of cheese". That could be anywhere from 185 calories (like you have), to several hundred calories. Weigh the apple in grams. Weigh the cheese in grams. At the very least, treat it as an experiment and see if you were right. If you were, then you have eliminated another variable. If you were not right, then you've found your answer (or one of them, at least).

    Check out this thread.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1

    i'm just using the mfp choice that best represents what I have in front of me. If the product/manufacturer is represented, I choose that. I have small apples. There are choices, with diameters listed, of small apples. I looked up calories and asked a friend who is a registered dietician. She said there not to worry about weighing apples since they average out and are a low calorie option. My doctor didn't want me worrying myself into a tizzy over each item since I'm only overweight, not obese, and it was my own personal desire to lose weight. As to the 4 slices of cheese: they are pre-sliced. They come in specific sizes, already sliced and the nutrition information is on the side of the package. Four slices is one serving for cheddar. I could convert it to grams but it isn't necessary unless I felt like doing math.

    You could easily be eating 10-50% more if you are eyeballing for using measuring cups instead of weighing solids. So, you don't have to weight food, but then you also wont know exactly how many cals you are eating
  • DebLaBounty
    DebLaBounty Posts: 1,169 Member
    You changed your eating habits just 1 month ago. I did not see a change in my waist measurements for at least two months. Be patient. Good luck!
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    lorrpb wrote: »
    So you became overweight by eating less than 1200 calories for years and now you lose weight only by eating too much? If you don't agree with informed and helpful users like @TavistockToad then I would encourage you to ask your questions of the dieticians whom you trus and you feel are correct.

    that isn't what i said. Please re-read. I also said be kind since I was frustrated. I have been ill for a long time and I'm resuming normal activities after a very prolonged time away from fitness. I've never, ever had to count calories in my entire life. And yes, I gained weight from not eating enough, not eating often enough, being ill and medication. It happens more than people realize. I rarely feel hungry so it is a struggle to eat 1200 calories as my original post stated. I never said I ate too much. I'm not sure where that impression was formed. I did ask a question along the way asking for clarification about eating more if you exercise more since I'm not sure anymore what the correct answer is. It has become muddied.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    jdomal wrote: »
    Food scale. Use it. Everything in your diary is a "piece" or a "half-cup", etc. I don't see many things weighed in grams

    One thing that jumped out at me was a "small apple" and "4 slices of cheese". That could be anywhere from 185 calories (like you have), to several hundred calories. Weigh the apple in grams. Weigh the cheese in grams. At the very least, treat it as an experiment and see if you were right. If you were, then you have eliminated another variable. If you were not right, then you've found your answer (or one of them, at least).

    Check out this thread.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1

    i'm just using the mfp choice that best represents what I have in front of me. If the product/manufacturer is represented, I choose that. I have small apples. There are choices, with diameters listed, of small apples. I looked up calories and asked a friend who is a registered dietician. She said there not to worry about weighing apples since they average out and are a low calorie option. My doctor didn't want me worrying myself into a tizzy over each item since I'm only overweight, not obese, and it was my own personal desire to lose weight. As to the 4 slices of cheese: they are pre-sliced. They come in specific sizes, already sliced and the nutrition information is on the side of the package. Four slices is one serving for cheddar. I could convert it to grams but it isn't necessary unless I felt like doing math.

    Ok. Do it your way. (But your way isn’t working, right?)
  • jdomal
    jdomal Posts: 13 Member
    88olds wrote: »
    What are your goals?

    Are you trying to lose weight? Or recomposition?

    Lose weight, regain balance and fitness.
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