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Discipline or Regrets

Packerjohn
Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
edited November 24 in Debate Club
Listening to a podcast and the person being interviewed quoted Jim Rohn:

“We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons.”

IMO, interesting thing to think about.

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  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,349 Member
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  • russelljam08
    russelljam08 Posts: 167 Member
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  • clicketykeys
    clicketykeys Posts: 6,589 Member
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    I agree with the general concept, but I don't like associating discipline with pain. That automatically makes it a negative force. Self-discipline and making mindful choices in your life is a positive thing, IMHO.

    Things that are positive don't always feel like it. Though I think that, for me, "pain" is the wrong word. When I'm listening to my body, "pain" means FULL STOP POSSIBLE INJURY, but "discomfort" just means I'm working hard and it's unpleasant. Other people might use "mild pain" instead of "discomfort," though.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    I agree with the general concept, but I don't like associating discipline with pain. That automatically makes it a negative force. Self-discipline and making mindful choices in your life is a positive thing, IMHO.

    Agreed that pain doesn't seem the right word for discipline.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    Sacrifice instead, maybe?
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Listening to a podcast and the person being interviewed quoted Jim Rohn:

    “We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons.”

    IMO, interesting thing to think about.

    Are we all in pain and suffering? That is pretty grim outlook.

    Discipline doesn't necessarily cause pain or discomfort. Working from the definition "activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training" we could be talking about someone learning to bake a cake or a writer working on a story every day or someone not going out drinking or shopping to save money. None of those things are particularly painful but require some discipline. Working hard toward a goal can require sacrifice or pain but it isn't really suffering.

    Regret means feeling bad over something you did or did not do. You might regret that you ate an entire pizza or got into debt. Not doing something does not always cause regret. I've never read War and Peace. I'm not going to read it today. I don't feel any pain or suffering over not reading it. It isn't something I want to do and there are no real negative consequences for not reading it so I don't regret not doing it.

    What about apathy? I think plenty of people suffer from that. Is apathy pain?
    That is, for all who suffer from apathy, what’s lost is the fundamental hope that personal happiness or fulfillment is possible. Either they’ve ceased to believe in the intrinsic value of the goals they’d earlier set for themselves, or they’ve lost faith in their ability to achieve these goals. So they can’t think of anything worth striving for. As a result the raw mental, physical, or emotional energy for accomplishing what in the past may have been valued by them disappears. It’s lost, and no- where to be found
    . from https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201604/the-curse-apathy-sources-and-solutions
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