Why is this so hard?
fastfoodietofitcutie
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All I want to do is order a pizza right now instead of eating my planned out dinner. No reason, I didn't have a bad day, nothing happened, I just want junk food all the time. I know I could still get the pizza and only eat two slices but that would never happen..
I'm not going to order the pizza but I've been thinking about it for 2 hours, that's not normal.
I'm not going to order the pizza but I've been thinking about it for 2 hours, that's not normal.
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It's the belly of the wolf. The harder you try not to think of something, the more you think of it. The harder you say no, the more your mind rebels and says yes. I think far far more about junk when I'm trying not to eat it than when I don't care if I am or not.8
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I think of food all the time I'm in the shop picking up chocolate etc checking the label and putting it down thinking god I wish I could just eat that and not have to think about it or wanting something sweet but oh wait you can't you don't have enough calories left where as before I wouldn't have thought twice I would be spoon deep in it no probs ...progress I guess5
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I get cravings a lot too, it happens to us all at some point. You have to learn to control it and distinguish if your actually hungry or if it is just cravings. Try drinking some water and eat a banana, it you still crave after that then try do something productive to take your mind off it hope this helps x1
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I used to crave certain foods when I was premenstrual until I realized my metabolic needs are higher at that time and just eating more regular foods would make the cravings go away. Many women up their calories to maintenance levels when they are premenstrual. Other women also experience appetite increases when they ovulate.
Not sure any of that is relevant to you, but it's the first thing that came to mind.
If that's N/Ap, then I'd ask how much weight you have to lose and what weekly weight loss goal are you set to, and how many calories per day are you eating?7 -
It's the curse of the calorie aware. It does get easier to a degree. I do wish that 1. I didn't live alone but only for the half hour it takes to eat take away. Harder to overeat it when sharing and 2. that pizza by the slice were a thing here. Or more of a thing, it's rare you find anywhere that does it.
I do sometimes get individual pizzas from the supermarket, either in the fridge or sometimes there's kids ones in the freezer. I then add my own toppings. Helps scratch the itch.2 -
The best way to do things with a new lifestyle is to not deprive yourself of things, that's the way I've been doing it now and im enjoying my food and life
Last week I really fancied a pizza, I said to myself If i still crave it tomorrow then I will allocate enough calories and fit the pizza in. I did get the pizza in the end and made it a low fat cheese with just onions, chillies and as a small. Ate the whole damn thing with a dip and lost weight the next day.
Enjoy yourself, but within your calories and it wont be a diet anymore but a lifestyle change!12 -
I feel you, i never don't want pizza. always, any meal, pizza is welcome. Just recently tried Blaze pizza though and will be going back - whole pepperoni pizza was like 660 calories and yum. Will probably go every couple of weeks for that
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This is where I miss living in a city where you can find "pizza by the slice" easily ... I feel your pain!2
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If you can cook, you could start making your own pizza, or other fast food, so you control portion size and ingredients, you could also have a scheduled fast food meal, just do your research in advance with a number of different options, eg if I want a burger I'll get the xx from yy. If you're troubled by intrusive cravings, ther are guided meditations you can do to reduce their impact3
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »All I want to do is order a pizza right now instead of eating my planned out dinner. No reason, I didn't have a bad day, nothing happened, I just want junk food all the time. I know I could still get the pizza and only eat two slices but that would never happen..
I'm not going to order the pizza but I've been thinking about it for 2 hours, that's not normal.
Tell yourself you can have the pizza on the weekend, after you go for a long hike or bicycle ride.
I ate pizza about once a month when I was losing weight.
And that's basically how I handled all my cravings ... I told myself that I could wait till the weekend when I did lots of exercise. By the time I got to the weekend ... sometimes I still wanted whatever it was ... sometimes the craving had passed.3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Harder to overeat it when sharing
Except you won't share, you'll just order 2 portions of *kitten* and overeat anyway. I actually wish sometimes I did live alone: when at work I manage to balance but hubby often sabotages my efforts in the evening (and certainly during weekends)...
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Starflight00 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Harder to overeat it when sharing
Except you won't share, you'll just order 2 portions of *kitten* and overeat anyway. I actually wish sometimes I did live alone: when at work I manage to balance but hubby often sabotages my efforts in the evening (and certainly during weekends)...
your husband holds you down and force feeds you?6 -
When I have those cravings I plan them in for the next day or two ... right now I am craving a chicken, bacon, cheese, avocado, hash brown, brioche burger .... that’s 1000kcal ... so planning it for the weekend ... along with a small lunch and a smaller breakfast3
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TavistockToad wrote: »your husband holds you down and force feeds you?
Yes, he does. :-D of course not, but I'm not a very strong-willed person and I surely do have my cravings as well. It's VERY difficult to eat a salad when he is eating a burger. When I do feel strong and make healthy choices he either makes fun of me or complains that I make him feel bad about his choices. Though I think his mindset slowly starts to shift as well (with emphasis on "slowly").
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How many slices do you usually eat? Eating just one slice fewer is progress. It's hard because it's a big change, and change takes mindful effort which can be tiring sometimes. It gets a bit easier with time. Not as easy as just eating mindlessly, but easier. You will develop strategies that become kind of automatic. When I want a meal very high in calories I automatically default to skipping breakfast and lunch. Not very comfortable, but easy in the sense that I don't have to think about it, it just happens. Someone else may choose to save calories up throughout the week, and yet someone else will be fine with two slices. It's a strategy collecting, trial and error, lots of experimentation kind of learning curve. I can't promise you it will become effortless, but it does become smoother as you progress.
ETA: don't know where the other paragraphs disappeared - I wrote a lot. Anyway, here is a rewrite:
There are basically a few ways of ways to go about it, either to go all out and stop eating certain foods for a while to retrain your palate, but note this only works if you know you are cutting out foods for a specific purpose, not because foods are bad or fattening, and you know you will re-introduce them later if you wish. Downside is that this can be very stressful, upside you will see progress sooner.
The second way is to make changes that are so easy you barely feel like they are changes, but they accumulate. For example, drinking water before a meal will likely help you to consume a little bit less, not guaranteed but it doesn't cause the stress of having to control your portion. Then later reducing your portion just a little bit at a time to where it doesn't feel like you are really reducing it. For example, I used to eat a large pita sandwich, then I started giving the first bit to my dog, then I started cutting the pita and eating two thirds, until I was down to half which was my desired portion. Downside it can take longer to arrive where you want to be, upside more of these changes are likely to stick and become your new norm.
Another way is to just go in, doing the proper things, changing things in the process and expecting some discomfort. This is basically like eating in moderation and watching your portions right off the bat. Downside, lots of trial and error possibly before you are mentally ready to handle trial and error (new dieters tend to freak out over the slightest bump in the road), upside you get to learn a lot about yourself and make progress sooner.
Personally I used all three ways for different things. Nuts I had to snip right off because it was more stressful for me to moderate them than to cut them out. It was hell at first but it passed. I haven't fully re-introduced them as a stand-alone snack, but I can have them in things and it's perfectly okay for me. Things like oil and bread I reduced very gradually. Things like pizza I went right to portion control because it's not a food I'm prone to stressing about.2 -
Starflight00 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »your husband holds you down and force feeds you?
Yes, he does. :-D of course not, but I'm not a very strong-willed person and I surely do have my cravings as well. It's VERY difficult to eat a salad when he is eating a burger. When I do feel strong and make healthy choices he either makes fun of me or complains that I make him feel bad about his choices. Though I think his mindset slowly starts to shift as well (with emphasis on "slowly").
sounds like a handy excuse to blame your husband instead of taking personal responsibility for your health/weight.8 -
Junk food is easy to like, easy to eat, easy to get. Of course you want it. I'd say it's completely normal - annoying, but normal - you will want it more, the more you tell yourself you can't or shouldn't have it. What is your planned dinner? How does it compare? Is that something you look forward to?1
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I sometimes "share" a takeaway with my dinner tomorrow; that works reasonably well if I pack up tomorrow's half straight away. Also, I occasionally go on an hours run after work and whack the pizza in the oven while I'm showering.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »Starflight00 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »your husband holds you down and force feeds you?
Yes, he does. :-D of course not, but I'm not a very strong-willed person and I surely do have my cravings as well. It's VERY difficult to eat a salad when he is eating a burger. When I do feel strong and make healthy choices he either makes fun of me or complains that I make him feel bad about his choices. Though I think his mindset slowly starts to shift as well (with emphasis on "slowly").
sounds like a handy excuse to blame your husband instead of taking personal responsibility for your health/weight.
Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions about a total stranger based on a handful sentences. I am taking responsibility but at the same time I admit I'm weak sometimes and tend to go with his less healthy choices which also happen to be my cravings. The only person I'm blaming is myself.19 -
I ate 6 slices of pizza for dinner just a few days ago. I was able to do that because earlier in the day my husband and I had gone mountain biking and burned a bazillion calories. Yesterday, I ran 10k. After that, I baked cookies and ate several of them. That's my big secret. If I want to indulge, I have to go earn it. If I'm feeling lazy and slack off, I don't get to eat as much, and there's definitely no room for dessert.
It's a choice I make and there's a trade-off. You've got to "pay" for it somehow. I pay for it with enjoyable and fun physical activity. But then, I love being physically active. Admittedly, this would be a bigger challenge for people who struggle with physical activity.
Many people look at me and say I'm "lucky" because I can eat all the food and stay fit. But there's no luck involved. I didn't just wake up like this. I make choices. Everybody does. I can pretty much eat whatever I want as long as it fits in my calorie goals, and the majority of it is at least somewhat nutritious. It just takes a little extra effort to increase those calorie goals, but it's worth it to me because I food, but I also love being fit and healthy!
This strategy has been working for me for several years of maintenance now. Had great numbers at my recent doctor's visit! And not only does all this activity earn me lots of delicious food, it keeps me fit and healthy too! There's no reason this has to be traumatic or miserable. I think you just need the right mindset and some strategic planning. Good luck!18 -
Many people look at me and say I'm "lucky" because I can eat all the food and stay fit. But there's no luck involved. I didn't just wake up like this. I make choices. Everybody does. I can pretty much eat whatever I want as long as it fits in my calorie goals, and the majority of it is at least somewhat nutritious. It just takes a little extra effort to increase those calorie goals, but it's worth it to me because I food, but I also love being fit and healthy!
100% this!!!5 -
You're always gonna get cravings - You just need to realize that you don't NEED to have that - Have some water - Some fruit. Do you have cheat meals? Maybe make your own healthy pizza.0
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm not going to order the pizza but I've been thinking about it for 2 hours, that's not normal.
In my personal experience, the best thing you can do is order the pizza, eat the number of slices that fits inside your calorie goal (or maybe even one extra), and then move on. Diets where you deprive yourself of what you are craving are simply doomed to failure. I had so much pizza on this incredible journey (88 pounds and counting), you would not believe it. Also, I learned to like a healthier pizza: thin crust instead of deep dish, ham or chicken for the only meat topping, veggie toppings... (my go-to is a thin crust ham and jalapeno, and I regularly fit a half of a large pizza inside my calorie goal)
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Order the pizza.
Put 2 slices on a plate.
Freeze the rest in handy 2 slice servings for another "I need Pizza" day.
Enjoy the hell out of those 2 slices.14 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Order the pizza.
Put 2 slices on a plate.
Freeze the rest in handy 2 slice servings for another "I need Pizza" day.
Enjoy the hell out of those 2 slices.
I have to agree with this. The mindset of punishing yourself for wanting perfectly delicious food is just wrong. For me I may decide to make a healthy version of pizza instead using wraps of course. But when the desire to eat a genuine pizza is tugging at me and im simply just gonna order it and eat it till I'm content. I will probably be over NY calories for the day and that's fine because I don't do that everyday. Once my pizza craving is quenched the next day it's back to normal. And if you did eat a bit over your calories you'll find your less hungry the day after. Incorporating the foods you like with having a meltdown is learning how to eat for sustainable results. It's not a sin to indulge for a day provide it isn't a common occurrence. There's also no sprint to your goal. It's a marathon.1 -
Make your own pizza, get some Pita bread and some healthy ingredients... Yum... Pumpkin with some fetta, some Parmesan sprinkled on top with some herbs, then throw on some fresh rocket (known as arugola in the states I think) and bam, healthy fresh pizza... for under 400 calories... Use tomato paste and/or yoghurt as the sauce..9
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Starflight00 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »your husband holds you down and force feeds you?
Yes, he does. :-D of course not, but I'm not a very strong-willed person and I surely do have my cravings as well. It's VERY difficult to eat a salad when he is eating a burger. When I do feel strong and make healthy choices he either makes fun of me or complains that I make him feel bad about his choices. Though I think his mindset slowly starts to shift as well (with emphasis on "slowly").
I totally am on the same bus with my husband. He actually does it on purpose. He just smiles, like yes i brought home a humongous piece of chocolate cake bc i know you are now starting a diet. I was howeverable to not eat any of it for 3 days then i nibbled for two and on thethird i gave it to the kids! Lol i say something to him he usually listensand chills out if im struggling but my husband does try to sabotage me on purpose, its not a blame thing or me lacking responsibility its me knowing what he does and why, and its ok, i know howto beathis system and i knowhow to get that will power strong! And you will learn tricks too and slowly he will respect your choices and hard work when you are lighter and he is not5 -
Give yourself permission to make the right choice. Give yourself permission to order and eat the pizza, or to suck it up just one more time for one more meal and eat the planned meal. Tell yourself you can have the pizza anytime, so eat the planned meal and grab a pizza tomorrow.... Tomorrow go through the same drill. After a while you're going to realize that your will-power and discipline is much stronger than your craving. You're being good enough to yourself by allowing yourself the junk food, whenever you want it, like a safety net. But in the meantime you're strong enough to make the right choice for the moment.0
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I can often hold off on a serious pizza fest with an at home option. It's not the same, but the flavors can hit the spot for considerably less calories - between 400 & 600 calories instead of 900-1500. I eat food with a pizza flavor probably once per week, and keep the glorious, greasy real pizza to one or two days a month.
Chicken cutlets simmered in marinara, topped with thin slices of pepperoni, mushrooms, Parmesan and mozzarella. Cover or broil until everything gets melty. ~400 cals
Naan, pizza sauce, favorite toppings
Frozen French bread or personal-sized pizza and side salad or veggie soup (~500 calories)
English muffin pizza (I go high fiber, they're pretty filling)
Dip a grilled cheese in marinara, throw some veggie toppings in when you grill it - peppers, onions, olives, tomato, spinach, etc.
Whole wheat pita, spicy roasted red pepper puree, shallots, mushrooms, prosciutto, arugula, Parmesan or Asiago cheese - not traditional pizza flavors, but really tasty.0 -
If you're like me, cravings can be completely overwhelming and eating other things just won't satisfy me....just ends up adding extra calories and I eat what I was craving anyway, lol. What I've found that works for me is to get a slightly healthier alternative to what I'm craving. Like pizza, I'll get a Lean Cuisine microwaveable pepperoni pizza. Ice cream, I'll get a Halo Top. Chips, I'll eat a small bag of microwave popcorn with Kernel's ranch seasoning on it (or some nutritional yeast). Eventually you can train your brain and the cravings will diminish. The key is to just stick with it. Good luck!1
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