Splenda carbs??

witcherkar
witcherkar Posts: 138 Member
edited November 25 in Health and Weight Loss
Ive been using splenda for the past 4 years. I cant even use sugar anymore because it's not sweet enough. Most of the time i try to stay low carb because of PCOS. I was told if you use splenda packets, its 1g of carbs because of the preservatives, but there are none if you buy the big bag of it. Well when looking at the bag, it says under 1 gram. So that means it could be half a gram per serving. Does anyone know if its 0 the exact amount? Or if i should switch to a different sweetner? I can easily go through 40 teaspoons of splenda a day. (It doesnt seem to affect my weight loss.) And if its half a gram, thats 20 grams right there. Way too much just from my sweetner. So if i should switch, what for sure has zero carbs?? Thank you!

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  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    I use the liquid. No carbs.
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
    Second on the liquid/drops.

    Man, I thought I used a lot of Splenda.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    if its not effecting you badly why does it matter? but yeah i use alot to. I also have PCOS but i dont worry about carbs at all. If anything i eat high carb. If its not negatively effecting you i think your focusing on the wrong things
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,260 Member
    If it is not affecting you... why worry?

    other sweateners may affect you more or less.

    There is almost nothing that in sufficient quantity remains zero calorie.

    Or switch to drops (based on the suggestions above).
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    edited March 2018
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    >No effect
    >Sweetener
    Pick one, because you're still spiking your insulin which leads to fat retention.

    Incorrect.

    Splenda (aspartame) is made from two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It does not cause insulin spikes. If it did, why would it be recommended to diabetics?

    Splenda is not aspartame. It's sucralose. However, when I had gestational diabetes it did not affect my blood sugar. Probably because the amount of carbs is so low per serving. It is a carb, but it has such a high sweetness level that very little is needed (1 packet would last me 2 or 3 coffees).
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    >No effect
    >Sweetener
    Pick one, because you're still spiking your insulin which leads to fat retention.

    Incorrect.

    Splenda (aspartame) is made from two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It does not cause insulin spikes. If it did, why would it be recommended to diabetics?

    Splenda is not aspartame. It's sucralose. However, when I had gestational diabetes it did not affect my blood sugar. Probably because the amount of carbs is so low per serving. It is a carb, but it has such a high sweetness level that very little is needed (1 packet would last me 2 or 3 coffees).

    You're right, I stand corrected. Nonetheless, it still has no impact upon insulin levels: https://www.nature.com/articles/ejcn2010291
  • foreversnafu
    foreversnafu Posts: 29 Member
    edited March 2018
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    >No effect
    >Sweetener
    Pick one, because you're still spiking your insulin which leads to fat retention.

    Incorrect.

    Splenda (aspartame) is made from two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It does not cause insulin spikes. If it did, why would it be recommended to diabetics?

    You know, when you correct someone, it's polite to quote the scientific paper you're referencing:
    >https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php
    >Sweetener spikes insulin by 20%
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.
  • foreversnafu
    foreversnafu Posts: 29 Member
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin.html
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited March 2018
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    >No effect
    >Sweetener
    Pick one, because you're still spiking your insulin which leads to fat retention.

    Incorrect.

    Splenda (aspartame) is made from two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It does not cause insulin spikes. If it did, why would it be recommended to diabetics?

    You know, when you correct someone, it's polite to quote the scientific paper you're referencing:
    >https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php
    >Sweetener spikes insulin by 20%

    See the study I subsequently linked. It does not spike insulin, nor does it spike blood glucose.

    Table/exhibit from the study (re-linked for easy access):

    dmcg6r91hyx1.jpg
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    edited March 2018
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin.html

    Interesting, but he is saying to take whey protein shakes. I can't quote the research paper, but doesnt whey protein push insulin up? Isn't that one of the reasons they tell type 2 dm patients to eat low fat dairy?
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin.html

    bb.com? My Gawd, man.

    How about we go to actual science instead?: https://weightology.net/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/

    Krieger... my man!
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited March 2018
    psychod787 wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin.html

    Interesting, but he is saying to take whey protein shakes. I can't quote the research paper, but doesnt whey protein push insulin up? Isn't that one of the reasons they tell type 2 dm patients to eat low fat dairy?

    Yes. Read the research review in the link in my previous post (the weightology.net one).
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  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Ok so it spikes insulin at that moment. What about when you are fasting? So your insulin is higher when you eat, but it goes back down after a meal and when you sleep. The smaller the meal, the less time of the insulin spike. I mean I could be wrong, doubtful.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin.html

    Interesting, but he is saying to take whey protein shakes. I can't quote the research paper, but doesnt whey protein push insulin up? Isn't that one of the reasons they tell type 2 dm patients to eat low fat dairy?

    Yes. Read the research review in the link in my previous post (the weightology.net one).

    I listen to James Kreiger all the time. That is where I actually read it now you posted it. I love his rapid research reviews!
  • witcherkar
    witcherkar Posts: 138 Member
    nowine4me wrote: »
    Second on the liquid/drops.

    Man, I thought I used a lot of Splenda.
    psychod787 wrote: »
    I use the liquid. No carbs.

    I didnt know they had liquid! Thanks! And its zero carbs? Not "less than 1 gram of carb"?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,428 MFP Moderator
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    >No effect
    >Sweetener
    Pick one, because you're still spiking your insulin which leads to fat retention.

    Incorrect.

    Splenda (aspartame) is made from two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It does not cause insulin spikes. If it did, why would it be recommended to diabetics?

    You know, when you correct someone, it's polite to quote the scientific paper you're referencing:
    >https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php
    >Sweetener spikes insulin by 20%

    You should view the commons since that site doesn't reference the actual study. It seems like it didn't have many controls and was done with very few individuals.


    OP, artificial sweeteners require binding agents (often maltodextrine) which is why it has less than 1g of carbohydrates. It's so insignificant that it shouldn't have an impact on PCOS, unless you are maybe super insulin resistant.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    witcherkar wrote: »
    nowine4me wrote: »
    Second on the liquid/drops.

    Man, I thought I used a lot of Splenda.
    psychod787 wrote: »
    I use the liquid. No carbs.

    I didnt know they had liquid! Thanks! And its zero carbs? Not "less than 1 gram of carb"?

    Nope. The carbs in most of the powder artificial sweeteners are milk sugar. They use it as a bulking agent.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,284 Member
    There are no zero calorie foods OP. Even artificial sweeteners have some.

    4 calories per sachet ,according to Splenda site linked upthread

    I personally wounldnt bother logging that - but if you are having 40 per day ( !!!!) then that is 160 calories, perhaps you should.
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