Drink Driving

rugratz2015

Who do you think should be held responsible if someone has 6 pints (large beer) then gets behind the wheel - me personally I think it’s the fool behind the wheel but others think it’s the publicans (bartender) responsibility - what do you think?

81Katz

Drinker first, but I do think bartenders know when to cut someone off and if they don't, they share a part of that blame imo.

cathipa

The drinker of course. They should be responsible enough to plan their night. A great bartender would call a cab or the cops if the person goes against advice.

km8907

A bartender shouldn't have to babysit their patrons.

81Katz

No, but they shouldn't serve someone who stumbles to the bar.

81Katz

Okie.

Skrib69

The drinker every time. We are all capable of planning an evening out and keeping tabs on what we are doing. It doesn’t take a genius to work out the situation after 1 pint and decide whether to have that 2nd. After that, don’t drive.

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bojack3

People need to take responsibility of their own actions. Sure, if a bartender observes a noticeably drunk patron they should not serve them, but that is a totally separate issue of people drinking and driving. A bartenders job is to serve drinks, not do blood alcohol and breathalyzer tests. And they don't always know who's driving or not. It's the person who is drinking responsibility to be resonsible.....that's it. Sure friends can hopefully intervene and help as well, but ultimately you are the one responsible for what you put in your body. Should a fast food worker not serve an overweight person? If that overweight person has some type of health condition such as diabetes is it the job of the fast food worker to do a blood test before serving them? Too many times people look to blame circumstance and others to share the blame of irresponsible actions. It starts and ends with you. That is the black and white. Anything else is white noise that doesn't matter. Nobody is gonna force feed you booze if you say no....and no bartender is not gonna let you take a cab or call a friend to drive you home. A bartender serving a drunk is wrong, and that is the bartenders issue.....but a drunk shouldn't drive if he gets served or not. And you don't need to be visibly drunk to be too impaired to drive.

xFunctionalStrengthx

It is the driver's responsibility to know their limits. If there's a passenger, it is their responsibility to either not ride with and more importantly attempt to prevent said person from driving. Or, if others are around, to prevent someone from driving away drunk.

I question the legality of holding a bartender, or establishment, guilty of serving alcohol to a drunk person. While I do think they can use their judgement on when to cut them off. I believe that the idea to go after a server, or establishment, is to just get more money for the lawyers first and those who were injured second.

People need to hold themselves more accountable for their choices and actions. I've been on scene numerous times for alcohol related vehicle incidents. Some end in the driver being pulled over without incident. Others are minor, and nothing more than property damage. But, I have also been on some where it's extremely gruesome to see and work on.

Some may argue that it's a victimless crime if a person speeds, or drives home drunk without incident on an empty road. But, there's always the "what if" factor. But, when the "what if" happens, so many people are affected that said person might not realize.

go_cubs

Bartender doesn’t need to babysit a grown man/woman
You can’t be responsible enough to stop yourself seek help or don’t drink at all

TheRoadDog

The person that gets behind the wheel after drinking too much should be held accountable.

As for the Bartender, not sure he/she should be legally liable, but he/she should be responsible and cut someone off is they are obviously hammered.

If a person is out drinking with friends, I would hope that the friends would step forward and be responsible.

If a person is out drinking alone. Don't. Stay home and get drunk on the couch while you binge watch Netflix. If you have no friends to go out with, you're already a candidate for binge drinking.

urloved33

the people doing the drinking and it should be a criminal offense - not traffic issue.

pudgy1977

Speaking as someone who works in the industry, it is part of our job to not serve obviously intoxicated individuals. But if you ask me, you can't catch everyone, I don't know you BAC. So aside from using my best judgement, I have very little control.
People need to take responsibility for their actions.

marissafit06

This is exactly what makes Uber/Lyft and the like so great. Bartender's shouldn't serve someone who is visibly intoxicated, but the the responsibility lies with the drinker.

saragd012

The responsibility is on the driver. Yes I think the bartender should eventually cut off an intoxicated patron, but you don't have to be wasted to be an impaired driver, and there is no effective way to determine if each person that might be a bit tipsy is about to get into the drivers seat or the back of an uber when your bartending at a packed club.

michael1976_ca

https://www.servingitright.com/

this is in bc Canada you need this certificate to serve booze. it all falls on the establishments. i think this works fine. the server and bartender are the first line of defense. it hard to explain