White Mulberry Leaf Thoughts?

robsimpatient

I heard about the Zuccarin Diet so I looked up to see what the main ingredient was and it's White Mulberry Leaf and Chromium Picolinate.
So I bought those 2 pills separately and started taking them last weekend. I don't know if it's too soon to see results or not.
What are your thoughts? Have you tried it?

bpetrosky

Waste of your time and money. Any diet based around supplements just another gimmick. Usually they have you get the supplements and give you a very restrictive eating plan and you give credit to the supplements if you lose weight, especially if you lose a bunch of water weight at first.

All you need is a sensible calorie deficit, no supplements necessary.

kommodevaran

What results are you expecting? How are you measuring those results? If you do get measureable results, how are you going to determine what caused the results?

robsimpatient

I guess I was looking for a faster way of losing weight. I lost 6.5 pounds the first week without it. Then gained 2.5 lbs last week.

kommodevaran

How much of that weight was fat, do you think?

ninerbuff

Weight loss isn't linear. It's NOT uncommon to lose a bunch of weight initially, then gain some back due to the body trying to adjust. As for the supplements....................it's just a gimmick as mentioned. Anytime a seller states that one can lose weight with a product, there's ALWAYS that's disclaimer "results not typical" and "in conjunction with a sensible diet and exercise plan".

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robsimpatient

kommodevaran wrote: »

How much of that weight was fat, do you think?

I don't know. I just get on the scale and go by what it says.

kommodevaran

robsimpatient wrote: »

kommodevaran wrote: »

How much of that weight was fat, do you think?

I don't know. I just get on the scale and go by what it says.

I can understand your username. You should be aware of what information the scale gives you, and act rationally on it. It just tells you what all of your body, and the food that's digesting inside it, weighs, at that particular point. You can assume that you're losing fat in accordance with the calorie deficit you're in - and one pound of fatty tissue equals around 3500 calories.

robsimpatient

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one pound of fatty tissue equals around 3500 calories.[/quote]

Thank you for your insight. It's much appreciated.

PAV8888

You may want to read the sticky threads about how weight loss works.

A few random things.

Your scale shows you the force exerted on the collection of items that stepped on it.

The collection of items is more than just fat.

To lose 1lb of fat you need to create, approximately, a 3500 Cal deficit.

You don't just lose or gain fat on a daily basis. In fact the most likely thing to lose or gain is water weight (due to sodium, hormones, or exercise). Food in transit is another component. Glycogen (carbohydrate stores in muscle tissue and the liver) which is your body's ready reserve for peak energy needs also fluctuate. Each single gram of glycogen yielding 4 Calories of energy is stored with 2 to 3g of water in your tissue. So the weight fluctuation you see is almost 4g for those 4 glycogen calories.

In perspective, if it were possible to create a 3500 Cal imbalance that would solely affect glycogen (which it isn't), you would lose or gain 6.5lbs as opposed to the 1lb of fat the same caloric imbalance represents.

Which is why people, in my opinion, should weigh daily, at approximately the same time, after using the bathroom and before eating or drinking, wearing the same or no clothes or other items, using a scale that is placed on a firm unyielding surface, and which has fully loaded batteries and no grit under the sensors.

Then they get to stick the number they get into a weight Trend application such as happy scale for the iPhone, libra for Android, or trendweight.com using a connected scale or freely available Fitbit account even without a device, or weightgrapher.com if all the rest doesn't work for them.

And they should probably consider that trend weight to be their actual weight for calculations moving forward.

Now having said all that, you also get to choose to stop acting according to it, or change, your user name, or fail.

Sane deficits top out (the word is top or peak, not minimum) at 20% of Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE). 25% if your stored energy reserves are such that you would be correctly categorized as obese.

You should be aiming to lose no more than 0.5% to 1% of your bodyweight a week. (This could shoot up to 1.5% while morbidly obese). But.

For people doing this on their own using MFP, I fell that cumulative weight losses over time associated with longer term compliance trump the extra short term losses achieved by engaging in faster loss to failure.

Not only because of the better physiological outcome due to the slower rate of loss, but also because you get to learn about yourself and how to eat and move to maintain as opposed to relying on a diet mindset to succeed.

But hey, you're impatient... so best of luck!