For those who lost fat, do you think diet soda impact the fat loss negatively ?
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No. In fact, I think it's helped because I get an energy boost from the caffeine which helps my workout performance. Also, it's hydrating so I think I have fewer thirst signals that I confuse for hunger.1
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AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
There are a few studies that allude to artificial sweetener triggering sweet cravings in individuals, but it's painting with pretty broad strokes to say that everyone experiences this. I find the opposite is true, for me, and apparently so do several other previous posters.
I never said that it would be universal nor was I suggesting it was widespread, I don't touch them either so I couldn't comment on how they effect me. I was responding to someone who suggesting that because it was zero calorie it couldn't have an affect.8 -
Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx15 -
Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
MercoLOLa. Definitely not a reliable source.11 -
Even if you are one of the people who think diet soda makes them hungry, as long as you are logging accurately and hitting your calorie goal, your weight loss will not be affected.
Diet soda's will not cause weight gain. They "may" cause you to be hungry or crave sugar, but unless you actually eat more that doesn't affect your weight.
And Mercola is not a reliable source.8 -
Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
Mercola is highly unreliable as a source. Here is a thread that includes several peer-reviewed studies that show it's fine in moderation: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary7 -
caymanbound109 wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
There are a few studies that allude to artificial sweetener triggering sweet cravings in individuals, but it's painting with pretty broad strokes to say that everyone experiences this. I find the opposite is true, for me, and apparently so do several other previous posters.
I never said that it would be universal nor was I suggesting it was widespread, I don't touch them either so I couldn't comment on how they effect me. I was responding to someone who suggesting that because it was zero calorie it couldn't have an affect.
Diet soda's have 0 calories. They aren't going to make people gain weight.
The drink itself won't but if it stimulates hunger that causes the individual to eat over their calorie goal then it will contribute to it. And even if they don't eat over their goal then it will still have an affect as they would potentially feel more miserable due to having to fight the extra hunger.
Obviously not everyone will feel the same nor affected in the same way
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Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
You should look at the actual studies rather than Mercola articles on them...Mercola is about right up there with Dr. Oz in regards to being a reliable resource.
I've known many diabetics and they drink diet soda and it does nothing with their blood glucose or insulin
There are studies that show weight gain with diet soda, but if you read the actual studies, they aren't overall calorie controlled and most of them actually state somewhere in there that basically people think they're being good because they're having a diet drink...but the rest of their diet is usually out of control. Having a diet drink is not likely to make up for an otherwise 1200-1500 calorie lunch.
There has never been nor will there ever be any direct link to diet soda and gaining weight due to the diet soda in and of itself. It's always other factors at play.10 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
You should look at the actual studies rather than Mercola articles on them...Mercola is about right up there with Dr. Oz in regards to being a reliable resource.
I've known many diabetics and they drink diet soda and it does nothing with their blood glucose or insulin
There are studies that show weight gain with diet soda, but if you read the actual studies, they aren't overall calorie controlled and most of them actually state somewhere in there that basically people think they're being good because they're having a diet drink...but the rest of their diet is usually out of control. Having a diet drink is not likely to make up for an otherwise 1200-1500 calorie lunch.
There has never been nor will there ever be any direct link to diet soda and gaining weight due to the diet soda in and of itself. It's always other factors at play.
And I have not once said there is a direct link........8 -
I use diet soda as a replacement for Sweets and boredom eating. The diet soda pretty much removes my sweet cravings completely and the extra stimulation from the sweetnes and the feeling of a fuller stomache stops me from boredom eating. Non-sugary juice works almost as good.3
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Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
So basically no science behind it at all, just some vague statements that something undefined and unknown is happening based purely on taste which MIGHT trigger hunger for some people.
Hmmmmm - unconvinced to say the least.
Mercola is a complete quack by the way and if you Google "world war 2 bombers found on the moon" you will get some results back....
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I generally drink diet soda every day, as well as plenty of water.
I don’t find it makes me hungry at all (the opposite actually, it can function as “bridging the gap” till my my next meal). I don’t find that it makes me crave sweet things, either... I find the opposite is true here, too!
Been steadily losing since the beginning of the year, so it’s definitely not hindering my weight loss either. If it works for you, go for it, IMHO!
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Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
So basically no science behind it at all, just some vague statements that something undefined and unknown is happening based purely on taste which MIGHT trigger hunger for some people.
Hmmmmm - unconvinced to say the least.
Mercola is a complete quack by the way and if you Google "world war 2 bombers found on the moon" you will get some results back....
That is just the first one I saw and I didn't use it to form opinion, if you prefer here is one from Harvard.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-2012071650304 -
Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
So basically no science behind it at all, just some vague statements that something undefined and unknown is happening based purely on taste which MIGHT trigger hunger for some people.
Hmmmmm - unconvinced to say the least.
Mercola is a complete quack by the way and if you Google "world war 2 bombers found on the moon" you will get some results back....
That is just the first one I saw and I didn't use it to form opinion, if you prefer here is one from Harvard.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
Are you actually reading these articles?
If you are then you must be reading them very selectively and with 20/20 confirmation bias.
Like the vast majority of people I drink something I enjoy the taste of and it quenches my thirst. But of course that's far too simple.4 -
Was just about to put up a post about the same thing!!
Thanks!!
I love my diet pop and am happy to know it is not going to affect my weight loss
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How have IBarryCarriere wrote: »Was just about to put up a post about the same thing!!
Thanks!!
I love my diet pop and am happy to know it is not going to affect my weight loss
How have I suggested that you do anything different!!!
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Nopecwolfman13 wrote: »deejay1230 wrote: »Hello,
For those who have been on a diet and drinking diet soda regularly, did you notice any difference when you stopped ?
Thank you !!!
How would a zero calorie beverage have any impact on weight management?
I drink one or two Fresca's daily.
It's difficult for the brain to tell the difference between sweeteners and sugar so it triggers the body to behave in similar manner so can cause hunger sensation earlier.
What does the bold actually mean?
There are no calories to use or store so how exactly is your body behaving in a similar way?
(Taste doesn't stimulate insulin production for example, hence why diabetic associations recommend them.)
I could see that if people habitually eat or drink sweet tasting things they may have more of a sweet tooth or taste preference but then they would have to eat more calories to have an impact.
Bearing in mind we are on what is predominately a calorie counting website....
My understanding was that the sweeteners make the brain think it is getting sugar and so it starts dealing with the expected sugar intake, when those calories are not received given the body's reaction hunger is likely to occur sooner than it would do.
It's not something I care about seeing as I don't like the taste of them nor the bloated feeling carbonated drinks give me so rarely touch them but a quick Google and the first link seems to suggest the same.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
So basically no science behind it at all, just some vague statements that something undefined and unknown is happening based purely on taste which MIGHT trigger hunger for some people.
Hmmmmm - unconvinced to say the least.
Mercola is a complete quack by the way and if you Google "world war 2 bombers found on the moon" you will get some results back....
That is just the first one I saw and I didn't use it to form opinion, if you prefer here is one from Harvard.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
Are you actually reading these articles?
[bold] If you are then you must be reading them very selectively and with 20/20 confirmation bias.[/bold]
Like the vast majority of people I drink something I enjoy the taste of and it quenches my thirst. But of course that's far too simple.
Not sure why you think you are able to determine that about me. Given you are not willing to even contemplate the science then that would suggest you are the one with the bias.
If you are happy to drink them than that's great and I have no problem with that, I can see how they benefit those that drink them and I am far from anti diet drinks.
However to try and suggest that they do not have any potential impact on weight loss as if they were the same as drinking water is niave. Whether the impact is psychological, physiological or whatever there putting an artificial sweetener into your body is bound to affect you in some way.12 -
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