Looking for a diet that is low carb/healthy carb AND low fat

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  • meinco
    meinco Posts: 62 Member
    Just thought I would share this. Someone messaged me privately with the link and it was kind of exactly what I was looking for. Though I am going take the advice talked about here and look at some more healthy percentages/numbers this gives me a nice starting point for ideas. Like totally loving the idea of cinnamon rutabaga oven fries!!

    https://www.lowfatlowcarb.com/recipes/low-fat-low-carb
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    meinco wrote: »
    Just thought I would share this. Someone messaged me privately with the link and it was kind of exactly what I was looking for. Though I am going take the advice talked about here and look at some more healthy percentages/numbers this gives me a nice starting point for ideas. Like totally loving the idea of cinnamon rutabaga oven fries!!

    https://www.lowfatlowcarb.com/recipes/low-fat-low-carb

    I'm glad you're getting some recommendations that meet your needs!
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    meinco wrote: »
    johnslater461 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    johnslater461 wrote: »
    It was around 500-800 calories and the emphasis was on vegetables, lean meats and small bits of some fruits.

    If you feel great doing this, just keep the same kinds of foods, but scale the portions up to a more sustainable calorie goal.

    The diet she was on was intended as a very short term measure. Unless you have some kind of credentials, this advice isn't necessarily wise, thus the previous advice to consult a dietitian.
    What, pray tell, is unwise about a diet that emphasizes lean meats, vegetables, and fruits with an appropriate calorie goal?

    I mean I do see what you are saying about the minimum amount of fat but I also agree with with John is saying.

    But please tell me what would be wrong with this as my meal plan:

    Breakfast:
    1 cup Herbal Tea
    1 Large Hardboiled Egg
    1/2 (75g) Fuji Apple

    Lunch:
    1 small Greek nonfat yogurt
    1 scoop Whey Protein Vanilla

    Dinner:

    150 gram Chicken Breast
    8 oz Steamed Peas and Carrots
    2 cups Arugala
    1 tbl lemon juice


    That is approx. 11g Fat / 42g Carb / 64g Protein


    I mean, without even looking at the macros it seems like it would be pretty darn healthy.

    For starters:
    Insufficient overall fat.
    Insufficient PUFAs -- the only essential fatty acids are PUFAs.
    Insufficient calories -- it's only a little more than 500 calories.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    meinco wrote: »
    Why is it not healthy to both limit carbs and fat?
    1)Bodies need a minimum of 0.4g fat/lb body weight for hormone synthesis. Lower than that creates endocrine & satiety problems
    2)That leaves protein. A high protein diet has risks.
    - constipation short term
    - Kidney disease long term
    - It’s expensive

    I tried googling low fat/ low carb but all I get is comparisons between the two, not what both together specifically looks like.
    That’s because low carb OR low fat diets are recommended. Low carb AND low fat diets are not recommended. Try eating equal calories from all three macros. It’s a moderately low carb approach. See how you feel and how sustainable it feels to you and adjust from there.
    Okay I see what you are saying. That makes sense. I was playing with the numbers and your .4g fat/lb of body weight and it seems like it would roughly be 32 grams minimum for me. When I plug that into calorie deficit and what the 3 macros look like it does seem like in general they end up very similar. With around 30ish % fat / 30 ish %carb and 40 ish %protein.

    And that does sound doable...I mean just changing which cut of beef you eat could have a substantial difference in fat grams.

    Like I said, I am just trying to prepare myself as I transition. The way I am eating now feels very in tune with my body and I want to continue that but also make sure I am being healthy.

    Thank you all for the advice.



    I don't see how your math can be right. If .4 g of fat/lb of body weight is 32 g for you, that means you only weigh 80 lbs. I have it hard to imagine a doctor putting someone who only weighs 80 lbs on a VLCD.
  • sschauer513
    sschauer513 Posts: 313 Member
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
  • k8andchr1smom
    k8andchr1smom Posts: 72 Member
    meinco wrote: »
    johnslater461 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    johnslater461 wrote: »
    It was around 500-800 calories and the emphasis was on vegetables, lean meats and small bits of some fruits.

    If you feel great doing this, just keep the same kinds of foods, but scale the portions up to a more sustainable calorie goal.

    The diet she was on was intended as a very short term measure. Unless you have some kind of credentials, this advice isn't necessarily wise, thus the previous advice to consult a dietitian.
    What, pray tell, is unwise about a diet that emphasizes lean meats, vegetables, and fruits with an appropriate calorie goal?

    I mean I do see what you are saying about the minimum amount of fat but I also agree with with John is saying.

    But please tell me what would be wrong with this as my meal plan:

    Breakfast:
    1 cup Herbal Tea
    1 Large Hardboiled Egg
    1/2 (75g) Fuji Apple

    Lunch:
    1 small Greek nonfat yogurt
    1 scoop Whey Protein Vanilla

    Dinner:

    150 gram Chicken Breast
    8 oz Steamed Peas and Carrots
    2 cups Arugala
    1 tbl lemon juice


    That is approx. 11g Fat / 42g Carb / 64g Protein


    I mean, without even looking at the macros it seems like it would be pretty darn healthy.

    Because I'd be gnawing off my own arm?
  • SabAteNine
    SabAteNine Posts: 1,867 Member
    I'm unsure about what low or healthy carb means in terms of g / %, but my only suggestion would be to try and incorporate some healthy fats in your new mealplan. Some vitamins, such as A, D, E and K are liposoluble. Also, a diet built on protein does not sound like such a winner to me - rabbit starvation comes to mind.

    I am sure you will figure it out. Eating a bit of everything in moderation might not feel like „you put in the hard work”, but that's the point - you don't really need to make those big sacrifices to see the big changes. Count calories and macros, keep a tight leash on monitoring the whole process and give it a bit of time before drawing the first conclusions.

    Good luck!
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,410 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    iWishMyNameWasRebel wrote: »
    @meinco, It IS fun to look at recipes! The Whole30, SkinnyMS, and Mediterranean Diet sites (just to name a few) all have some really good recipes that are heavy on lean meats and all types of plants without drowning everything in cheese and butter. I don't follow any of these, but I do reference all of them for yummy meal ideas when I hit a roadblock. A balanced diet is not rocket science. Unless you have a medical condition and need to follow medical orders, just eat your lean meats, fruits, veggies, legumes and/or grains, and throw in some nuts/nut butters, avocado, and olive oil (and other healthy oils), and you're good to go, like @janejellyroll was saying in her last post.

    South Beach websites will probably also have recipes that appeal to those who like this way of eating.

    Yeah, I was going to say South Beach. But I don't think it's a permanent WOE, like Atkins I think you start low and build on it.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited April 2018
    Lois_1989 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    iWishMyNameWasRebel wrote: »
    @meinco, It IS fun to look at recipes! The Whole30, SkinnyMS, and Mediterranean Diet sites (just to name a few) all have some really good recipes that are heavy on lean meats and all types of plants without drowning everything in cheese and butter. I don't follow any of these, but I do reference all of them for yummy meal ideas when I hit a roadblock. A balanced diet is not rocket science. Unless you have a medical condition and need to follow medical orders, just eat your lean meats, fruits, veggies, legumes and/or grains, and throw in some nuts/nut butters, avocado, and olive oil (and other healthy oils), and you're good to go, like @janejellyroll was saying in her last post.

    South Beach websites will probably also have recipes that appeal to those who like this way of eating.

    Yeah, I was going to say South Beach. But I don't think it's a permanent WOE, like Atkins I think you start low and build on it.

    South Beach is designed to be a permanent way of life. There are three different phases to the diet. Phase 3 is the long-term phase and it includes more grains, legumes, and fruit (at least it did fifteen years ago when I tried the diet). Either way, OP doesn't have to officially "do" South Beach in order to pick the recipes she might enjoy from it -- I still cook some South Beach recipes today.
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,410 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    Lois_1989 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    iWishMyNameWasRebel wrote: »
    @meinco, It IS fun to look at recipes! The Whole30, SkinnyMS, and Mediterranean Diet sites (just to name a few) all have some really good recipes that are heavy on lean meats and all types of plants without drowning everything in cheese and butter. I don't follow any of these, but I do reference all of them for yummy meal ideas when I hit a roadblock. A balanced diet is not rocket science. Unless you have a medical condition and need to follow medical orders, just eat your lean meats, fruits, veggies, legumes and/or grains, and throw in some nuts/nut butters, avocado, and olive oil (and other healthy oils), and you're good to go, like @janejellyroll was saying in her last post.

    South Beach websites will probably also have recipes that appeal to those who like this way of eating.

    Yeah, I was going to say South Beach. But I don't think it's a permanent WOE, like Atkins I think you start low and build on it.

    South Beach is designed to be a permanent way of life. There are three different phases to the diet. Phase 3 is the long-term phase and it includes more grains, legumes, and fruit (at least it did fifteen years ago when I tried the diet). Either way, OP doesn't have to officially "do" South Beach in order to pick the recipes she might enjoy from it -- I still cook some South Beach recipes today.

    Oh I know, she just wanted a key word to google, I thought South Beach would be her best bet. Ok, so yeah, South Beach is like Atkins with the Phases and such.
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