Green Smoothie Detox - Make Fresh Or What Store Bought Brand Do You Recommend?
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maryjennifer wrote: »
Both and I have a digestive issue due to allergies and have been put on a program to address it. Not getting into what that entails my question was only about fresh green smoothies or a recommendation from people on this platform who drink a healthy store bought brand and their experience with a specific brand.
if you have food allergies that cause digestion issues the only thing you can do is avoid those foods causing the issues. there is no food,smoothie,etc going to change allergies. I have
I never been on meds for allergies. I have inherited allergies for life. I developed some additional allergies, however. The last time I addressed the later, I went to a doctor who specializes in allergies and yes I also have a naturopath.
The doctor who specializes in allergies did extensive testing. I avoided the foods I was reacting to. Then I was put on a program to cleanse the gut with fresh foods. I got rid of the developed allergies.
Now I am dealing with this again as I developed an allergy to a new food I was not reacting to, as I cheated on my diet.
When you have allergies it affects your gut health.
In my case they recommended avoiding the food I was reacting to, eating tons of foods filled with fiber to cleanse the gut and lots of drink water, fresh green juices and green smoothies as vegetable and fruits cleanse the gut along with omega 3's.
I decided I am sticking to what the doctor recommended sticking with fresh ingredients as my past results and his success rate speaks volumes.
If you got rid of the developed allergies i.e. cured them, wouldn't you be able to eat those allergens without any ill effects?
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johnslater461 wrote: »I came across a treatment that is just as effective as a green smoothie, and much less expensive. In fact, it's completely free.
Just repeat after me:
Ooo eee,
ooo ah ah
Ting tang
Walla walla, bang bing bang
Fixed that for you.
Your spell causes aliens to enter your ears while you sleep.*edit to say* OH! It alternates. Well, the spell is old. It might not work anyway.
Sorta like green smoothies...9 -
Calliope610 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »
Both and I have a digestive issue due to allergies and have been put on a program to address it. Not getting into what that entails my question was only about fresh green smoothies or a recommendation from people on this platform who drink a healthy store bought brand and their experience with a specific brand.
if you have food allergies that cause digestion issues the only thing you can do is avoid those foods causing the issues. there is no food,smoothie,etc going to change allergies. I have
I never been on meds for allergies. I have inherited allergies for life. I developed some additional allergies, however. The last time I addressed the later, I went to a doctor who specializes in allergies and yes I also have a naturopath.
The doctor who specializes in allergies did extensive testing. I avoided the foods I was reacting to. Then I was put on a program to cleanse the gut with fresh foods. I got rid of the developed allergies.
Now I am dealing with this again as I developed an allergy to a new food I was not reacting to, as I cheated on my diet.
When you have allergies it affects your gut health.
In my case they recommended avoiding the food I was reacting to, eating tons of foods filled with fiber to cleanse the gut and lots of drink water, fresh green juices and green smoothies as vegetable and fruits cleanse the gut along with omega 3's.
I decided I am sticking to what the doctor recommended sticking with fresh ingredients as my past results and his success rate speaks volumes.
If you got rid of the developed allergies i.e. cured them, wouldn't you be able to eat those allergens without any ill effects?
thats what I said. I said if she cured the allergies she should be able to eat those things now
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cmriverside wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »I came across a treatment that is just as effective as a green smoothie, and much less expensive. In fact, it's completely free.
Just repeat after me:
Ooo eee,
ooo ah ah
Ting tang
Walla walla, bang bing bang
Fixed that for you.
Your spell causes aliens to enter your ears while you sleep.*edit to say* OH! It alternates. Well, the spell is old. It might not work anyway.
Sorta like green smoothies...
Of course it does.
Who do you think takes the toxinz away?8 -
maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Who has explained allergies to you because they are not comprehending how the body works. Allergens don't build up in your body and a smoothie will not eliminate them. Its actually insulting to people who have true food allergies the way you think the body reacts in response to an allergy.
When you have food allergies, your body can't digest foods you are allergic to very well. It builds up in the colon. When you cleanse the built up, the allergy you developed is resolved.
Where are you getting this nonsense?
I'm guessing the naturopath. I can't see a real doctor with a real degree dispensing this kind of information.
Wrong doctor who specializes in allergies and who helped me get rid of allergies I developed in the past.
There are doctors out there who do more than just prescribing a pill. There are doctors who are interested in healing.
Ah. So functional medicine. Same kind of quack and pseudoscience.
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maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Ok, so I have multiple food allergies diagnosed through lab work. I worked with a medical team to “detox” or simply put eliminate them from my body and diet. This was ONLY done by identifying the allergens and not consuming them anymore. No drink is going to speed up your bodies normal processing time to get you through the process faster. I was told to expect improved symptoms starting within 3-5 days with full results after approximately 2 weeks (same time frame of your smoothie detox go figure). This is the timeline of natural digestion and processing that the body needs. After that just don’t expose yourself to allergens going forward.
Within 5 days of eliminating wheat my hives were all gone and I generally felt better - for reference. And all I did was stop eating the allergen27 -
maryjennifer wrote: »I never been on meds for allergies. I have inherited allergies for life. I developed some additional allergies, however. The last time I addressed the later, I went to a doctor who specializes in allergies and yes I also have a naturopath.
The doctor who specializes in allergies did extensive testing. I avoided the foods I was reacting to. Then I was put on a program to cleanse the gut with fresh foods. I got rid of the developed allergies.
Now I am dealing with this again as I developed an allergy to a new food I was not reacting to, as I cheated on my diet.
When you have allergies it affects your gut health.
In my case they recommended avoiding the food I was reacting to, eating tons of foods filled with fiber to cleanse the gut and lots of drink water, fresh green juices and green smoothies as vegetable and fruits cleanse the gut along with omega 3's.
I decided I am sticking to what the doctor recommended sticking with fresh ingredients as my past results and his success rate speaks volumes.
What has happened is that you have fallen into a situation of coincidental evidence or a post hoc fallacy. I can prove that shaking a bottle of water to aerate it before drinking will help you get over a cold with this line of reasoning. Once you are better you will be a believer. Did I cure you? Nope. The cold just ran its course. Jumping on the bandwagon of someone who is going to get better anyway is a very easy con to get away with. If you stop eating foods to which you are allergic you will get better. You can cleanse, detox, shake water bottles, rub a lucky rabbit's foot, or send chain letters but nature will still just run its course.
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maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.15 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.
Did your Dad happen to drink the green shakes to get rid of the peanut allergy?
I'm allergic to peanuts and bee stings . I think I'll get a jar of peanut butter and eat it while i sit next to a bee hive while sipping my green shake. I'll show those beez who's the boss !29 -
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw my dad eat a green vegetable in any way, shape, or form... In the summer, he'll make spinach or swiss chard latkes using stuff fresh from the garden. Otherwise? His main veggie consumption would be onions and tomatoes.
ETA: Oh, wait. He does eat stuffed cabbage and stuffed green peppers. My bad.3 -
Oh and I doubt I am the only one here thinking that the doctor probably has nothing to do with the detox. If he knows about it he probably just doesn't care because eating more fiber and drinking lots of nutrients (regardless of the reason) is still good for you.5
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I can't believe I have read this entire ridiculous thread. Is the OP just trying to punk us? I was going to refute her allergy claims but I decided surely she's just screwing around with us.
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musicfan68 wrote: »I can't believe I have read this entire ridiculous thread. Is the OP just trying to punk us? I was going to refute her allergy claims but I decided surely she's just screwing around with us.
Detoxing has been around for at least multiple decades so some people have to believe in it. All of these preservatives and artificial flavors building up in some mystery area of the bottle getting wiped out by powerful elixirs of health has a hip vibe to it, doesn't it?2 -
Very hip vibe indeed. But complete woo nonetheless, peddled by quacks/scammers:musicfan68 wrote: »I can't believe I have read this entire ridiculous thread. Is the OP just trying to punk us? I was going to refute her allergy claims but I decided surely she's just screwing around with us.
Detoxing has been around for at least multiple decades so some people have to believe in it. All of these preservatives and artificial flavors building up in some mystery area of the bottle getting wiped out by powerful elixirs of health has a hip vibe to it, doesn't it?
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/
https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/
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Very hip vibe indeed. But complete woo nonetheless, peddled by quacks/scammers:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/
https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/
Complete woo? You have maybe posted here too much. lol
I still hate woo as a negative. Wooing my wife is how I convinced her to marry me. She is the woman of my dreams and then some. I am the luckiest SOB in the world.
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estherdragonbat wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.
My youngest nephew has FPIES (a rare food allergy syndrome)and could only consume a special medical formula. He is now almost 4 and has passed most of his food challenges this year and has officially outgrown it.5 -
And what is an "inherited allergy". The only one that is genetically inherited would be celiac sprue.
Will ya all stop it with this sciencey and reality based anti smoothie stuff?
bananas smoothie girl's quack scam artist pretend doctor naturopath has her exactly where he wants her!16 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »I'm trying to remember the last time I saw my dad eat a green vegetable in any way, shape, or form... In the summer, he'll make spinach or swiss chard latkes using stuff fresh from the garden. Otherwise? His main veggie consumption would be onions and tomatoes.
ETA: Oh, wait. He does eat stuffed cabbage and stuffed green peppers. My bad.
Ok great thanks! I'll use cabbage and green peppers for my shake.
I'm actually going to do it tonight being that I got confirmation via this thread that allergies can be eliminated from drinking the green shakes. I'm planning on using cabbage, green peppers and the only the green Skittles from a left over bag of Skittles I had from Halloween.
I'll let you all know how it goes! No EpiPen needed, bee hive here I come!15 -
maryjennifer wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »"What Do You Recommend?"
Not doing it. At all.
Why not?
Unnecessary, potentially harmful, and unpleasant.0 -
maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
You would know.0 -
Oh and I doubt I am the only one here thinking that the doctor probably has nothing to do with the detox. If he knows about it he probably just doesn't care because eating more fiber and drinking lots of nutrients (regardless of the reason) is still good for you.
This is what I was thinking. I suspect she saw a doctor about her allergies (which may actually be an intolerance), then sought out a naturopath for a remedy.
My sister does this all the time. She's currently avoiding surgery for what could be a very dangerous possibly life threatening condition that a hysterectomy would take care of.
It doesn't sound like OP is in this type of danger, but is just seeking a more "natural" solution to her health concerns. I don't necessarily have a problem with the idea, but she's definitely getting faulty information from her "medical" advisors.
Unfortunately, this is another one of those movements like GMO's or artificial sweeteners that once people make up their minds about, it becomes an almost cult like obsession.10 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
You would know.
Your use of the phrase "detox system" aside, the fact that you're sitting here typing this is a clue...3 -
“Doctor that specializes in food allergies”
That just sounds odd to me. Why word it this way over and over?
Also, my allergist has an awesome sense of humor and I think he would be highly amused by this thread.6 -
If you have a functional liver you don't need to detox. If you are jaundiced then you need help detoxing.5
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estherdragonbat wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.
I was told I was allergic to penicillin. Broke out in hives when I was in college. Years later, desperate because I couldn't get to the doctor, I took penicillin I found in the medicine cabinet. Guess what? No hives. No reaction. I was cured!1 -
crazykatlady820 wrote: »“Doctor that specializes in food allergies”
That just sounds odd to me. Why word it this way over and over?
Also, my allergist has an awesome sense of humor and I think he would be highly amused by this thread.
I'm kinda thinking of telling my GI about this next week when I see him if he's in a good mood. He'd find it amusing to say the least.8 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.
I was told I was allergic to penicillin. Broke out in hives when I was in college. Years later, desperate because I couldn't get to the doctor, I took penicillin I found in the medicine cabinet. Guess what? No hives. No reaction. I was cured!
I am (or was) allergic to penicillin too -- ended up in the hospital with terrible hives and a dangerously high fever when I was around 5 or 6. My current doctor told me it's extremely common for kids to grow out of that and that I may not be allergic any more, but there's been no reason to test it.4 -
This may be the issue. Neither usually hold a degree in nutrition and just parrot what they hear. Many diet and fitness industry organizations do the same. The smoothie isn't a bad idea, it's just NOT NECESSARY if you're just consuming a nutrient rich diet through regular eating. Some people think that if you combine the 2 together you'll get better results. Truth is once you reach your daily nutrient needs, consuming more of them doesn't give you "extra credit". The idea in a good healthy eating plan is to be able to STICK to it for life. So ask yourself, "am I gonna drink smoothies the rest of my life?" If not, then no need to even bother starting.maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who both stated it has a lot of health benefits.
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