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Thank you I will get a scale and try that. I seemed to do good with mine so I figured I was being pretty accurate with hers1
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I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.23
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How old is your daughter? Is she still growing?3
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I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
Just on a practical level, it's important not to track the calories burned from exercise, because it's so extremely inaccurate. You can ASSUME 500 calories burned, but for a young active girl, it could be more like 200. Estimating calorie burn outside of a laboratory is an extremely blunt tool for food planning.22 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
Just on a practical level, it's important not to track the calories burned from exercise, because it's so extremely inaccurate. You can ASSUME 500 calories burned, but for a young active girl, it could be more like 200. Estimating calorie burn outside of a laboratory is an extremely blunt tool for food planning.
You may want to get more familiar with how this particular site generates calorie goals before you give people advice. Many people do misunderstand it. MFP's calorie goals are based on NEAT and the intention is for you to log your intentional exercise and add those calories to your goal. It is true that the result is going to be an estimate, which is why you'll often see people here recommend starting with a more conservative estimate for calories burnt (not, for example, just taking a generic read from a treadmill), paying attention to real life results, and making adjustments as necessary.
In any event, it appears this is a non-issue. If OP's daughter is logging 1,200-1,400 calories a day, then it doesn't appear she is "eating back" her activity adjustments for her training or her treadmill sessions. I suspect the issue is logging accuracy and she's accidentally eating more than she thinks she is, but if a young woman was actually eating 1,200-1,400 calories a day, running regularly, and engaged in multi-hour training sessions, following your advice to ignore calories burnt through exercise could actually be dangerous and certainly be damaging to her performance in her sport.18 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
This is not true on MFP. Your calorie goal is based on your activity level apart from intentional exercise.
If it is based on the Harris Benedict equation, it assumes all calories burned, not just ones from non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
It's not based on the H-B equation for a total calculation. The basic setting is a 1.2 activity factor, which is sedentary. So while it may *consider* H-B, it does *not* consider exercise in that determined factor.
MFP uses NEAT, not TDEE, and thus makes no judgments on calorie expenditure beyond daily non-exercise activity.
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My daughter is almost 15 and her height has remained the same for over a year now and she has had her periods for over a year now as well. The doctors think she is at her adult height. I am sure the calculations have to be wrong somewhere. I just can’t figure out where as she really eats the same things almost every day and exercises regularly. For example today she ran and hour on the treadmill and has a 2 hour practice this evening. She had the same thing yesterday.0
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Are you *sure* that she is not eating things that you don't know about?
You've put her on a fairly restrictive diet for an active, growing teen. I know I certainly snuck food at that age, and I wouldn't be surprised if she were doing the same.11 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »My daughter is almost 15 and her height has remained the same for over a year now and she has had her periods for over a year now as well. The doctors think she is at her adult height. I am sure the calculations have to be wrong somewhere. I just can’t figure out where as she really eats the same things almost every day and exercises regularly. For example today she ran and hour on the treadmill and has a 2 hour practice this evening. She had the same thing yesterday.
Being 15 and weight gain at her age is completely normal, she is still developing in all areas. Doctors *thinking she is at her adult height would be something I hold as a big 'IF'.
What are her stats... current weight and height?4 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »My daughter is almost 15 and her height has remained the same for over a year now and she has had her periods for over a year now as well. The doctors think she is at her adult height. I am sure the calculations have to be wrong somewhere. I just can’t figure out where as she really eats the same things almost every day and exercises regularly. For example today she ran and hour on the treadmill and has a 2 hour practice this evening. She had the same thing yesterday.
Are her doctors aware of her weight loss goals? Gaining weight at 15 is normal and completely desirable, even for athletes! A fifteen-year-old's goal shouldn't necessarily be to avoid all weight gain.9 -
collectingblues wrote: »Are you *sure* that she is not eating things that you don't know about?
You've put her on a fairly restrictive diet for an active, growing teen. I know I certainly snuck food at that age, and I wouldn't be surprised if she were doing the same.
I thought about this a few minutes ago. Good call.0 -
I just want to throw out there that you should not track the caloric expenditure from exercise. The way that calorie goals are set up, they take exercise into account. Just a thought.
That is true of TDEE. Myfitnesspal uses NEAT, in which activity level and exercise above the selected activity level are logged.0 -
tiffanylazo1 wrote: »We do measure things out like almond milk, vegan butter, cereal, veggies etc with measuring cups and spoons. I do not have a scale so maybe that’s the issue. What sort of things do you use a scale for? She does not eat meat.
Liquids are great in measuring cups, but other things are really poor (cereal for example). Fruit is another example where you want to use a scale.....what is a medium banana? Rice, pasta & flour can become packed down.tiffanylazo1 wrote: »What is the best kind of scale to get?
I got my digital food scale a Wal-Mart. Any scale with a tare function will be helpful.0 -
collectingblues wrote: »Are you *sure* that she is not eating things that you don't know about?
You've put her on a fairly restrictive diet for an active, growing teen. I know I certainly snuck food at that age, and I wouldn't be surprised if she were doing the same.
This is the most likely answer.
At the end of the day, if she is truly taking in less calories than she burns she will lose weight. Sounds like she's eating at maintenance.2 -
Aren’t flyers like 100 pounds or less? She probably just has teenage hormones at work & can no longer stay underweight7
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How old is your daughter? What is her height and weight?
As others have said - she's probably eating more than she thinks and not burning as much as she thinks. But please be kind! She's a growing girl, and this is how bad relationships with food is formed!3 -
She isn’t really on a diet she just doesn’t drink sodas, doesn’t eat a lot of snacks, and loves animals so she is vegetarian. If you ask her what her favorite food is she will say a salad lol!!! She is very into her sport and always wanted to be in her best shape. She has been doing this since she was 7 and it’s a huge deal for her. They have been very big on letting these kids know they need to be physically fit and eat healthy. She had been very muscular and had abs etc prior to injury cause she was always working and loved what she did. Very active hyper kid. She also has a bladder condition where there are certain types of foods that cause her to burn. Either way she’s been super stressed since injury and she doesn’t like the weight gain. She is short at only 5”1 and is just hoping to be back to pre injury weight.0
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I had really hoped she would leave the sport after what happened with her back but she did everything she could to heal. She said it’s who she is and she wasn’t ready to give it up. I have been one stressed momma!0
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Active37, when did you stop growing? Do you remember? I know I didn't stop growing until my twenties! I'm 5'4" now (52) and was 5'2" at 17.2
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