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I think you need to read the stickies and learn how MFP really works. It sounds like you really don't understand any of it, so you need to do some reading.9
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I think that if you somehow end up losing weight, it will be by pure luck - because I'm not sure you understand how the process works, and you're introducing a lot of unnecessary variables and making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be.15
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beatthebinge3464 wrote: »Lets see; when MFP completes my day it completes it off of my info entered. So, its taking into account the 3000 calories I have consumed and the 2800 calories I have burned through exercise and bmr...
MFP calculates your expected losses on the amount of calories you take in per day minus the exercise. Lets forget for a moment that the predictor is completely unreliable for most people, with your random numbers you are putting it, it looks to the system like you are netting about 0 calories per day (give or take). Of course it's going to tell you that you'll lose if you are netting 0. It's just a calculator, it can't tell that you've chosen to change what is included or not included in those values.5 -
beatthebinge3464 wrote: »I didnt want different approaches , I just wanted to know if my approach would work
Doubtful. When people over complicate and are unopen to guidance from others with more experience it usually fails, sometimes a few times, and then hopefully they learn from the experience and start listening8 -
How many calories do you estimate that you burn when you run 5k?3
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With your approach, the calories shown as "net" is your deficit. If you keep that under zero you will lose weight (provided you have calculated your BMR + exercise calories correctly). If your net calories show over zero consistently, you will gain weight. If you are planning your net to be under zero by 125 calories, you will lose about 1/4 pounds a week. When MFP yells at you for having low net calories, it doesn't apply to you because you aren't using MFP the way it was designed to be used. What MFP calculates you would lose doesn't apply to you for the same reason, so it's not a useful number to look at. You will have to manually calculate your deficit to arrive at a prediction.
To lose weight, you need to eat fewer calories than you input for exercise+activity+BMR, so the first number needs to be lower than the second number. The "calories left to eat" part is not relevant to you at all, so don't even look at it.
You are way overcomplicating it, but whatever floats your boat.7 -
In your method as described, the first number is not relevant to anything at all.
The second is what you have eaten and logged
The third is what you have burned for the day from exercise plus being alive (btw you need to multiply BMR by an activity factor to accounting stuff that burns more than BMR but is not formally recorded exercise)
To lose weight the second number has to be smaller than the third!!
The fourth is again not relevant to you.
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MFP tells you you will lose weight because it thinks you have added purposeful exercise only. If it knew you added your BMR too it would've changed its mind.
Personally, I don't think you will be successful with your approach.5 -
This may well be the most confusing post I've ever read on here (and I read a lot of them!) Fwiw, if I'm understanding the OP correctly, I predict a pretty rapid weight gain as those numbers are just ridiculous.11
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This may well be the most confusing post I've ever read on here (and I read a lot of them!) Fwiw, if I'm understanding the OP correctly, I predict a pretty rapid weight gain as those numbers are just ridiculous.
That's what I was thinking. If the OP is eating 3000 calories worth, but only burning 2800 or so... it's not going to be rapid weight gain, but there's going to be weight gain.
And, it's hard to say whether that's actually a 2800-calorie burn. They say they run and cycle, but not how much.3 -
Well, I am down 5.2 pounds6
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I use a Garmin Forerunner 235 for HR tracking and calorie burn0
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See ya all next week for the next weigh in , I guess.7
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Personal Trainer seemed to understand my approach just fine, gave me a big stamp of approval and said that I ate better than he did9
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beatthebinge3464 wrote: »Lets see; when MFP completes my day it completes it off of my info entered. So, its taking into account the 3000 calories I have consumed and the 2800 calories I have burned through exercise and bmr...
Taking those numbers at face value... no that will not lead to weight loss.2 -
beatthebinge3464 wrote: »Well, I am down 5.2 pounds
That's great. This is water weight. Think it through. You're weighing weekly. To lose 5.2 lbs of fat in a week, you'd have to create a deficit of 2600 calories per day. You're eating 3000 calories a day so you'd have to burn 5600 calories every single day. Does that sound right to you?
ETA: It shouldn't because it's not right. Oh and trainers are often idiots. Read the stickies. Educate yourself and you'll realize you're making this infinitely more difficult than it has to be.12 -
beatthebinge3464 wrote: »Personal Trainer seemed to understand my approach just fine, gave me a big stamp of approval and said that I ate better than he did
What was the point in asking what people thought if your PT's opinion seems to be the only one that matters to you?15 -
OP's approach is fine (her numbers may not be, but her approach is fine). She's basically doing TDEE, just not explaining it very well.2
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NextRightThing714 wrote: »beatthebinge3464 wrote: »Well, I am down 5.2 pounds
That's great. This is water weight. Think it through. You're weighing weekly. To lose 5.2 lbs of fat in a week, you'd have to create a deficit of 2600 calories per day. You're eating 3000 calories a day so you'd have to burn 5600 calories every single day. Does that sound right to you?
This. Unless the deficit is that great -- which we know by it isn't, at least based on what the OP said -- it's mostly water.
When you see losses that great, you need to step back and do the math. Did you have a deficit of 2600 calories a day? If you didn't, you didn't lose 5.2 pounds of fat.3 -
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