Knowledge is power: Answer these 10 and see your results
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Answer the questions below, count how many times you say yes and then scroll to the bottom to see your results. Post your results in the comments and discuss any of the points you think are contraversial. GOOD LUCK!
1. Eating 1500 calories of clean food will lose you more fat then eating 1500 calories of dirty foods.
YES / NO
2. Cardio makes you lose weight.
YES / NO
3. Fats arent bad for you but saturated fats are, as it is linked to heart disease.
YES / NO
4. Carbs are not the enemy, in fact getting too few carbs in your diet has been show to be unhealthy.
YES / NO
5. Eating breakfast and other key meals throughout the day is more optimal for weight loss than eating all your calories 10 minutes before bed.
YES / NO
6. A 500 calorie or -20% TDEE deficit is best as any lower can cause the body to enter starvation mode and cling onto reserves as best it can, stopping or slowing weight loss.
YES / NO
7. Eating unhealthy foods is fine on occasion, but everyday is excessive and will hinder you from losing weight.
YES / NO
8. High repetition and low resistance weight training tones the body and low repetition heavy lifting builds bulky muscle. Keeping the reps high and the resistance low will firm the body without creating a overly muscular appearance.
YES / NO
9. You should still lift weights even on a diet as building muscle while loosing fat is the key to having a sculpted appearance.
YES / NO
10. Some people gain weight very easily whereas others can eat whatever they like over their maintenance and not gain any weight.
YES / NO
RESULTS:
0 Yes'- SPOT ON!! you answered every question yes! your knowledge of fitness and nutrition is excellent.
1-4 Yes'- You have a good base knowledge of nutrition but may occasionally get caught out by the occasional myth or two.
5-8 Yes'- Your likely making a chain of unnecessary decisions or mistakes that will delay you from getting the results you want.
9-10 Yes'- It is highly recommended you read some stickies and guides on nutrition, your highly misinformed on many key points that could be detrimental to your health and/or weight goals.
1. Eating 1500 calories of clean food will lose you more fat then eating 1500 calories of dirty foods.
YES / NO
2. Cardio makes you lose weight.
YES / NO
3. Fats arent bad for you but saturated fats are, as it is linked to heart disease.
YES / NO
4. Carbs are not the enemy, in fact getting too few carbs in your diet has been show to be unhealthy.
YES / NO
5. Eating breakfast and other key meals throughout the day is more optimal for weight loss than eating all your calories 10 minutes before bed.
YES / NO
6. A 500 calorie or -20% TDEE deficit is best as any lower can cause the body to enter starvation mode and cling onto reserves as best it can, stopping or slowing weight loss.
YES / NO
7. Eating unhealthy foods is fine on occasion, but everyday is excessive and will hinder you from losing weight.
YES / NO
8. High repetition and low resistance weight training tones the body and low repetition heavy lifting builds bulky muscle. Keeping the reps high and the resistance low will firm the body without creating a overly muscular appearance.
YES / NO
9. You should still lift weights even on a diet as building muscle while loosing fat is the key to having a sculpted appearance.
YES / NO
10. Some people gain weight very easily whereas others can eat whatever they like over their maintenance and not gain any weight.
YES / NO
RESULTS:
0 Yes'- SPOT ON!! you answered every question yes! your knowledge of fitness and nutrition is excellent.
1-4 Yes'- You have a good base knowledge of nutrition but may occasionally get caught out by the occasional myth or two.
5-8 Yes'- Your likely making a chain of unnecessary decisions or mistakes that will delay you from getting the results you want.
9-10 Yes'- It is highly recommended you read some stickies and guides on nutrition, your highly misinformed on many key points that could be detrimental to your health and/or weight goals.
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BREAKDOWN OF THE QUESTIONS:
1. There is no such thing as clean or dirty foods, a calorie is a calorie and you will loose weight regardless of the quality/type of your foods you eat if you are in a deficit. Individuals have gone as far as to eat nothing but poptarts or mcdonalds to prove you can still lose weight on these foods that are pecieved as dirty. There are however health implications to these diets that should be observed.
2. Cardio does not make you lose weight, a calorie deficit does. You can use cardio as a tool to achieve that calorie deficit but it is not necessary as simply eating less calories would produce the same weight loss results. Cardio does however have certain cardio vascular benefits health benefits as does weight training and most activities.
3. A link between saturated fats and heart disease was debunked completely many years ago. Many ketogenic dieters consume large amounts of saturated fats daily and lead perfectly healthy lifestlyes with no inherant heart problems. No single type of fat is "bad" for you, however moderation in all things is strongly advised.
4. Carbs are certainly not the enemy! however eating a low carb diet has been shown to provide a wide range of benefits and is by no means unhealthy as many believe. This is kind of a double edged sword question and I will let you off if you said yes because carbs are not the enemy
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5. Meal timings and frequencies have no correlation or effect on weight loss, however they can affect your energy and satiety levels through the day. Base when you eat and how much you eat purely on your own personal preference and what keeps you best energized, feeling good and not feeling hungry throughout the day.
6. Starvation mode is a term thrown around too wildly by inexperianced dieters looking to explain why they are not loosing weight on a 1200 calorie diet. Starvation mode is defined as being at least 50% below your BMR, meaning for most this is going to be under 700 calories a day for a very prolonged period of time. A study was held on a group of 20 males eating at 50% below BMR, technically in the "starvation mode" range, and even then, consistant weight loss was achieved by all 20 UNTIL they reached the 5% body fat range. So starvation mode is not the reason you are not loosing weight on a 1200 (or whatever) diet.
7. You can eat whatever you determine as "healthy food" everyday if you like, providing you fit it into your calories and macros you can enjoy your favourite foods every day. Had me 200 calories of toffee icecream every day this week so far! w00t w00t
8. Toning is the developing of muscle to remove the "jiggly" or "soft" appearance to a persons body. This is done via GROWING the muscles, theres is no such thing as making the muscles harder or firmer. Therefore to grow the muscle, an adequate amount of strain must be placed upon the muscles to encourage growth. Traditional high rep weight training provides excellent cardio benefits but far too insignificant a strain upoin muscle to encourage any real growth and in turn, any real "toning".
9. Building muscle is not achievable on a diet (except for rare exceptions in very overweight males), a caloric surplus is required to actually add mucle volume to the body which gives that "sculpted" appearance providing the individuals bf % is low enough. To achieve this, cycles of cutting and bulking are often undertaken, but cannot be achieved through straight weight lifting while dieting. It is however recommended to still resume weight lifting during a diet as this helps muscle preservation and strenght gains can still be made during this process.
10. Noone is able to eat a caloric surplus on a regular basis and not gain weight. It may APPEAR that the individual is eating "whatever they want", but this does not mean they are in a surplus. They may be an individual with a naturally high TDEE but if you are in a constant surplus you WILL gain weight and if you are in a constant deficit you WILL lose weight.
Post your results, ask your questions and feel free to add me. All are welcome to debate or build on any of the points I made, we are here to share knowledge and knowledge helps us achieve our goals 0 -
This reminds me of those teachers that would make the answer "C" like eight times in a row on a multiple choice test just to mess with you mind.0
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This reminds me of those teachers that would make the answer "C" like eight times in a row on a multiple choice test just to mess with you mind.
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This reminds me of those teachers that would make the answer "C" like eight times in a row on a multiple choice test just to mess with you mind.
haha thats what I was aiming for. how did you do? 0 -
I think your approach backfired. I got them all right, but once I got past 3 or 4 it became obvious that you were stating myths. Though #3 is debatable:This reminds me of those teachers that would make the answer "C" like eight times in a row on a multiple choice test just to mess with you mind.
haha thats what I was aiming for. how did you do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
I have no idea which side is correct in that debate, but it does seem to be in doubt. I would not say it was "debunked completely", but I would agree that it is not a certainty. The rest of your statements I agree with more fully.0 -
2 and 4 were too vague.
2. Cardio CAN make you lose weight. Just like spinning around in a chair or hopping on one foot or anything that burns Calories as long as it creates a Calorie deficit. More information was needed to make it a clear yes or no answer.
Better question: Cardio will ALWAYS make you lose weight. No.
4. Carbs are not the enemy. Low carb is fine, but can create problems if taken to an extreme such as mood problems and fatigue. Needed "too few" more clearly defined. This is just a loaded *kitten* question, though. It's also circumstantial.
9. It's losing, not loosing!
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2 and 4 were too vague.
2. Cardio CAN make you lose weight. Just like spinning around in a chair or hopping on one foot or anything that burns Calories as long as it creates a Calorie deficit. More information was needed to make it a clear yes or no answer.
Better question: Cardio will ALWAYS make you lose weight. No.
4. Carbs are not the enemy. Low carb is fine, but can create problems if taken to an extreme such as mood problems and fatigue. Needed "too few" more clearly defined. This is just a loaded *kitten* question, though. It's also circumstantial.
9. It's losing, not loosing!
do you not agree more that it is the calorie deficit making you lose weight and not the cardio? cardio is just a helping cause but it is not the driving fractor. Many things can help a cause, but it does not make the thing the cause itself. For example music might help chickens lay eggs, would that mean that eggs are then made by music? haha I see what you mean though, the question could be more a fight of termanoligy rather than a determanation of knowledge.0 -
I have also read into the cardiovascular debate a little, especially since I have a family history on one side of heart issues. Genetics plays into that topic I am sure. I stopped answering after the Carb question because it didn't seem to make a lot of sense. However, I pretty much agree with your answers. I didn't know about 8 or 9, I haven't read into muscle toning at all since building muscles have not been my focus, just losing weight.0
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I think your approach backfired. I got them all right, but once I got past 3 or 4 it became obvious that you were stating myths. Though #3 is debatable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
I have no idea which side is correct in that debate, but it does seem to be in doubt. I would not say it was "debunked completely", but I would agree that it is not a certainty. The rest of your statements I agree with more fully.
ahh interesting. I read an article, cant remember the source a while ago. It stated that heart disease and saturated fat had no link and the whole myth had been completely debunked. Interesting to find it is still an open ended debate!0 -
1. Eating 1500 calories of clean food will lose you more fat then eating 1500 calories of dirty foods.
YES
2. Cardio makes you lose weight.
NO
3. Fats arent bad for you but saturated fats are, as it is linked to heart disease.
NO
4. Carbs are not the enemy, in fact getting too few carbs in your diet has been show to be unhealthy.
NO
5. Eating breakfast and other key meals throughout the day is more optimal for weight loss than eating all your calories 10 minutes before bed.
NO
6. A 500 calorie or -20% TDEE deficit is best as any lower can cause the body to enter starvation mode and cling onto reserves as best it can, stopping or slowing weight loss.
YES
7. Eating unhealthy foods is fine on occasion, but everyday is excessive and will hinder you from losing weight.
YES / NO (depends on it. I have seen stories of people loosing weight with the Mac diet)
8. High repetition and low resistance weight training tones the body and low repetition heavy lifting builds bulky muscle. Keeping the reps high and the resistance low will firm the body without creating a overly muscular appearance.
NO
9. You should still lift weights even on a diet as building muscle while loosing fat is the key to having a sculpted appearance.
YES
10. Some people gain weight very easily whereas others can eat whatever they like over their maintenance and not gain any weight.
YES
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Thanks for posting!0
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Question... if it wasn't high saturated fats that gave me high cholesterol how did I get it ?0
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very good! I got to be the first to admit that a lot of my questions are too colourful a question to be answered in a black or white yes or no and some of them come down to simply termanoligy.
Certainly interesting to see some response though.. thanks for posting!0 -
It must be nice to live in a world of absolutes. Some of your "answers" were flat out wrong, and some were misleading or true only in certain circumstances. Humans are more complicated than you make them out to be.0
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very good! I got to be the first to admit that a lot of my questions are too colourful a question to be answered in a black or white yes or no and some of them come down to simply termanoligy.
Certainly interesting to see some response though.. thanks for posting!
Yeah, that was exactly the problem I had with some. It is not that black-white as it is written.0 -
A calorie in not a calorie!!! fact if i ate 2500 cals of ice cream a day or 2500 cals of lean protein and vegetables a day in 6 months would I look exactly the same on both diets ....answer NO therefore a calorie is NOT a calorie.
Just thought i would mention this point
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Even if there is a link, it isn't like stepping in front of a bullet; it might very slightly lower your risk if you avoid saturated fats. Then again, it might not. So I think it does get over emphasized as one of the cornerstones of a good diet. There is so much concern about good fats and bad fats in the market that it is just crazy. The differences between EVOO and canola or safflower oil from a health perspective are almost negligible in the grand scheme of things (and before anyone posts the garbage about toxic canola, please google for "canola oil myth") but as far as price goes it is a factor of 3 or 4. And despite all the warnings about peanut oil, it has a higher smoke point and can fry things crisper at a higher temp. When I go to a fish fry at an older relative's house, I don't lecture them about their oil, I just enjoy their cooking. Watch portions, make up for it later if need be, but enjoy it.I think your approach backfired. I got them all right, but once I got past 3 or 4 it became obvious that you were stating myths. Though #3 is debatable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
I have no idea which side is correct in that debate, but it does seem to be in doubt. I would not say it was "debunked completely", but I would agree that it is not a certainty. The rest of your statements I agree with more fully.
ahh interesting. I read an article, cant remember the source a while ago. It stated that heart disease and saturated fat had no link and the whole myth had been completely debunked. Interesting to find it is still an open ended debate!0 -
Question... if it wasn't high saturated fats that gave me high cholesterol how did I get it ?
Your body makes all the cholesterol you need and then some. Why do YOU have high cholesterol?
-Genes
-Excess calories
-Excess adipose tissue
-Hormonal imbalances?
-Prediabetes?
Anybody eating at a deficit will see their lipid profile improve, even if they are eating mostly lard. Even the twinkie guy had better blood work.0 -
Question... if it wasn't high saturated fats that gave me high cholesterol how did I get it ?
good question, saturated fats play a minor roll in high colesterol, numerous factors that I know of for cholestorol are smoking, alchol, high LDL levels in overweight people.
Looking at the link posted earlier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
it seems that the debate here is still open ended and not as black and white as this site http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/02/25/saturated-fat-is-not-the-cause-of-heart-disease.aspx
It seems that NO link has been establish between sat fats and heart disease, however as mentioned by a previous poster, this may not be sufficient enough to debunk the entire thing.0 -
It must be nice to live in a world of absolutes. Some of your "answers" were flat out wrong, and some were misleading or true only in certain circumstances. Humans are more complicated than you make them out to be.
excellent! which points do you feel were flat our wrong?0 -
A calorie in not a calorie!!! fact if i ate 2500 cals of ice cream a day or 2500 cals of lean protein and vegetables a day in 6 months would I look exactly the same on both diets ....answer NO therefore a calorie is NOT a calorie.
Just thought i would mention this point
Thanks
A calorie is just a calorie and the "quality" of that calorie has no effect on how much weight you gain or lose. Other factors would play on how you look but it would not be the calorie, such as:
your energy levels, which in turn COULD reduce your exhertion in the gym and therefore your appearance or your muscle gains. However once again the calorie is just the calorie and it has been proven many times by many people who ate nothing but "junk" and still got amazing results that the quality of the calorie is not a factor in weight gain or loss.0 -
Question... if it wasn't high saturated fats that gave me high cholesterol how did I get it ?
good question, saturated fats play a minor roll in high colesterol, numerous factors that I know of for cholestorol are smoking, alchol, high LDL levels in overweight people.
Looking at the link posted earlier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
it seems that the debate here is still open ended and not as black and white as this site http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/02/25/saturated-fat-is-not-the-cause-of-heart-disease.aspx
It seems that NO link has been establish between sat fats and heart disease, however as mentioned by a previous poster, this may not be sufficient enough to debunk the entire thing.
Thanks... well yes im over weight. Ocassionally drink. Eat pretty healthy even before I found out I had high cholesterol. Since then I dont eat butter cream full fat yoghurt or full fat milk.. and I dont eat cheese. I have also limited my red meat. And eat fish and chicken. Ive upped my good oils too.. and will find out next month if its changed my numbers. I dont smoke. My father has it but didnt get it till later on in life. .. now for me I was having kfc at least once a week.. and also other takeaways on occasion. ... I will check out that link though... its been a blessing as well as bad news... it has made me change my eatting and caused me to come here and change my body.. 0 -
Thanks... well yes im over weight. Ocassionally drink. Eat pretty healthy even before I found out I had high cholesterol. Since then I dont eat butter cream full fat yoghurt or full fat milk.. and I dont eat cheese. I have also limited my red meat. And eat fish and chicken. Ive upped my good oils too.. and will find out next month if its changed my numbers. I dont smoke. My father has it but didnt get it till later on in life. .. now for me I was having kfc at least once a week.. and also other takeaways on occasion. ... I will check out that link though... its been a blessing as well as bad news... it has made me change my eatting and caused me to come here and change my body..
it would be really interesting to know if your cholesterol drops after dropping sat fats from your diet! I am lucky not to suffer from cholestorol but I did go through a phase of wondering wether my bacon sandwhiches were gonna do me harm.0 -
Debatable. You can eat same many calories in an apple and in HFCS, but you'll digest it differently, as fructose in apple is bound with fiber, takes more energy to break it down.Eating 1500 calories of clean food will lose you more fat then eating 1500 calories of dirty foods.
YES / NO
Debatable. From a calories in/out point of view, it makes sense, but eating 10 minutes before bed can interrupt your sleep, as your body is going to digest instead of resting and not getting enough rest from your sleep can actually mess up weight loss.Eating breakfast and other key meals throughout the day is more optimal for weight loss than eating all your calories 10 minutes before bed.
YES / NO
YES. Them bloodey ectos.Some people gain weight very easily whereas others can eat whatever they like over their maintenance and not gain any weight.
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So did you wake up this morning and think to yourself "Hmm....how can I combine every controversial diet topic into one thread today?"0
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YES. Them bloodey ectos.
I agree with you post in the sense that eating 10 minutes before bed could go on to leading to weight loss because it could effect that INDIVIDUAL PERSONS rest. However it is then lack of sleep causing weight loss and not the eating, "the cause of a cause does not make it the cause"
what if someone allergic to peanuts who gets bed ridden because of them and gains weight, are peanuts then a cause for weight gain? or was the peanut because of the effect it had on that INDIVIDUAL PERSON?0 -
I wonder if this thread will become a trainwreck like yesterday? Where the OP spouted some colorful language and ended up with a locked thread?0
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I wonder if this thread will become a trainwreck like yesterday? Where the OP spouted some colorful language and ended up with a locked thread?
I have also been wondering this.0 -
I wonder if this thread will become a trainwreck like yesterday? Where the OP spouted some colorful language and ended up with a locked thread?
having an excellent and insightful conversation about some topics, I would like to continue having it. I invite you warmly to join but would discourage you from an attempt to derail the topic as you did yesterday alongside a young man who felt it appropriate to turn a thread discussing dieting into a thread about child abuse.
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I wonder if this thread will become a trainwreck like yesterday? Where the OP spouted some colorful language and ended up with a locked thread?
having an excellent and insightful conversation about some topics, I would like to continue having it. I invite you warmly to join but would discourage you from an attempt to derail the topic as you did yesterday alongside a young man who felt it appropriate to turn a thread discussing dieting into a thread about child abuse.
thankyou
I derailed the thread yesterday? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Calorie deficit to lose weight. Exercise for fitness. Cardio for heart health. Strength train to keep the lean mass while eating at a deficit. (and no that will not make a person "bulky.")0
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