WADA List

Keto_Vampire

https://worldnaturalbb.com/drug-testing-banned-substances/
*Some of these are quite hilarious...glycerol FFS

Poll/out of curiosity, how many among us would be unable to claim "natural" status based on the list of WADA substances? You can simply state, banned, not banned, or not sure (label reading ignorance & there are many questionable substance timeframes & conditions to meet as well as numerous names for 1 substance).

Since this is "mare-cuh", feel free to state what substance if you choose to do so & are comfortable speaking openly about or remain choose not to say...

<---Banned from OTC & Rx use (perfectly fine choosing to be "unnatural" with no illicit drug use)

jessef593

I'm definitely interested to see what happens here. I just hope it doesn't get closed

jessef593

Hahaha ephedrine is considered non natural? Fantastic. I better tell my friend that's he's technically not natty any more. Awesome post

Davidsdottir

<-- Still natty

usmcmp

Based on actual supplements I have taken I am natty. The items that are banned and are naturally occurring in our bodies or in regular foods we eat don't count and wouldn't make you fail a drug test. Things like glycerol are banned when used as a laxative, they do specifically state that small amounts are not banned.

LiftHeavyThings27105

USAPL has a list for this as well....

Gallowmere1984

I hadn’t been “natty” for years (ephedrine, DMAA, etc.) before even starting TRT this past February. Luckily for me, I don’t give a rat’s *kitten*, and cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would. Most of those substances have such short half lives that you’d have to take it right before you lift in order to pop positive anyway.

I personally won’t ever compete in tested feds, just because them’s the rules. That said, the list is still a joke, and relies on so much bushido and/or stupidity, that it might as well not exist.

Silkysausage

Geranium As in the pretty flowers?

Gallowmere1984

Silkysausage wrote: »

Geranium As in the pretty flowers?

DMAA is isolated from certain strains of geranium, so that’s why. It’s kind of like how eating a poppyseed muffin could make you pop positive for specific opioids.

Keto_Vampire

Off topic, but the threshold required for opioid screens are high enough to avoid for such false positives from poppy seeds...
Maybe a poppy seed eating challenge would be needed

stanmann571

Seems pretty reasonable overall- Although what jumped out for me was "No smoking weed before taking the polygraph"

scooter5106

Can they ban the drugs if used for legit medical purposes? Seizures or blood pressure ?

jseams1234

scooter5106 wrote: »

Can they ban the drugs if used for legit medical purposes? Seizures or blood pressure ?

The only mention of a therapeutic use exception I saw was for the use of diuretics for heart related complications. Any other use for anything - even if prescribed to correct a deficiency is prohibited. They also use the caveat "when used for bodybuilding purposes..." for prescription thyroid medication. I'm not sure what this means as I can't imagine getting a prescription unless medical necessity to correct a deficiency.

This list bans anybody who uses a ECA stack for cutting, is on TRT on several counts (the actual T, hCG, and in some cases the AI's). However, like mentioned above... most all the substances mentioned are undetectable even a few weeks after stopping use. There would be nothing stopping someone from running several cycles and then after a successful PCT being able to pass a blood or urine test... passing a polygraph though. I'm imagining a dark dank room and a beeping machine, one bright light and a burly jacked dude being grilled by a suspicious official.

deannalfisher

jseams1234 wrote: »

scooter5106 wrote: »

Can they ban the drugs if used for legit medical purposes? Seizures or blood pressure ?

The only mention of a therapeutic use exception I saw was for the use of diuretics for heart related complications. Any other use for anything - even if prescribed to correct a deficiency is prohibited. They also use the caveat "when used for bodybuilding purposes..." for prescription thyroid medication. I'm not sure what this means as I can't imagine getting a prescription unless medical necessity to correct a deficiency.

This list bans anybody who uses a ECA stack for cutting, is on TRT on several counts (the actual T, hCG, and in some cases the AI's). However, like mentioned above... most all the substances mentioned are undetectable even a few weeks after stopping use. There would be nothing stopping someone from running several cycles and then after a successful PCT being able to pass a blood or urine test... passing a polygraph though. I'm imagining a dark dank room and a beeping machine, one bright light and a burly jacked dude being grilled by a suspicious official.

you can get TUE's for a fairly wide range of medications - but once you start the process for a TUE, if you are taking the drug, you can't compete in any events until the TUE is granted - or you may be disqualified/banned

ritzvin

<-- nope. bupropion hydrochloride (commonly prescribed anti-depressant/anti-anxiety drug)

ritzvin

nevermind (I think)... from updated version in .pdf:

• Imidazole derivatives for topical/ophthalmic use and
those stimulants included in the 2017 Monitoring
Program*.
* Bupropion, caffeine, nicotine, phenylephrine,
phenylpropanolamine, pipradrol, and synephrine: These
substances are included in the 2017 Monitoring Program, and
are not considered Prohibited Substances.

Keto_Vampire

Glucocorticoids (corticosteroids) - a catabolic class of drugs (dexamethasone, prednisone, methylprednisolone, Triamcinolone, budesonide, betamethasone, etc.) - banned

Hypoxia...(><)...choking yourself gives you an unfair advantage (sarcasm)

Oh, I guess drinking blood counts as blood doping/manipulation too
Church goers: does that include metaphorical/symbolic blood of Christ? (I'm obviously destined to hell)

gcpower

Not too familiar with various bodybuilding federations' doping regulations, but I was required to do a short online course on clean sports prior to receiving my International Powerlifting Federation membership.

While most of the list is a no-brainer, it does go a bit broad with things like ephedrine. Ephedrine is only banned 'in competition' (12 hours prior and during competition), off season use is not prohibited, at least according to the WADA Prohibited drug and medication reference list, globaldro.com

That being said,
<---- still "natty"

CharlieBeansmomTracey

Keto_Vampire wrote: »

Glucocorticoids (corticosteroids) - a catabolic class of drugs (dexamethasone, prednisone, methylprednisolone, Triamcinolone, budesonide, betamethasone, etc.) - banned

Hypoxia...(><)...choking yourself gives you an unfair advantage (sarcasm)

Oh, I guess drinking blood counts as blood doping/manipulation too
Church goers: does that include metaphorical/symbolic blood of Christ? (I'm obviously destined to hell)

wow I wonder how many body build that have asthma that either have to alter their dose or not take it? thats interesting to me I mean I dont want to be a body builder but just curious if you would be disqualified for this or not? I read the it lowers immune system and has no effect of muscle growth so wonder why its banned? found this link of some of the meds banned https://www.usada.org/substances/prohibited-list/athlete-guide-2018-prohibited-list/

Keto_Vampire

Recovery reasons/joint inflammation - I believe Kurt schilling ran into some flack about having corticosteroid injections during World Series years ago...but yeah going into bodybuilding edema, Na+ retention, hypokalemia, elevated BG, other Cushing like symptoms, etc. are generally not desirable (although edema can be minimized using dexamethasone/other pure glucocorticoids with zero to little mineralocorticoid properties)

Keto_Vampire

Interestingly, Topiramate (seizure med, also weight loss med) with carbonic anhydrous inhibitor as one of 4 parts of its mechanism of action ("dirty drug") - has diuretic properties - not banned

T1DCarnivoreRunner

I take 1 substance banned at all times, but I would get a TUE.

Specifics: I take insulin and I'm a type 1 diabetic. I would be sick within hours and dead within days if I did not take insulin.

aokoye

I am completely out of my league here as bodybuilding is something I a. know next to nothing about and b. have no desire to do. I only clicked on this because doping, anti-doping efforts, and TUEs are things that I'm interested in. That said, those rules are absurd, namely the lack allowance of therapeutic exemptions. Also the fact that there list was last updated in 2009. Though it looks like their rules on cannabis are in fact more lenient than the IOC's.

singingflutelady

I'm on budesonide.

Riff1970

I only use these 2 testeeze baby please!