Question For Those Who Advance Log Meals

What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

How do you other pre-loggers handle that?
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  • sytchequeen
    sytchequeen Posts: 526 Member
    I used to worry about it, and would refuse to go out or eat anything off plan.
    Not so much now. My weekly log is also a shopping list, so I plan the week, do the shopping. But sometimes things change.

    If it helps, include snacks as well as meals in your plan. That way if you end out not following Plan A it is easy to drop the evening snack at the end to balance things out.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    Tough. I eat what I've prepared unless something either drastic or amazing happens to change my plans. I figure if I desperately want something, I'll still desperately want it on the weekend when I can fit it in.
  • tinkerbellang83
    tinkerbellang83 Posts: 9,129 Member
    I plan my week ahead trying to factor in potential social events, occasionally I don't really fancy what I have planned too, but that's ok, I think trying to see the bigger picture and realising everything can't be set in stone for the rest of your life is important. If I have a day where I eat more calories than I intended to, I just let it be, if I can I try to offset it with an extra walk or by looking at the rest of the week.

    At the end of the day, if you're making relatively sensible choices, one meal isn't going to undo the rest of the week.

    As for the exercise calories, set a fixed amount to eat back and review how your weight loss is against your intended weight loss and you'll soon know how accurate it is.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

    I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
    But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

    I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

    How do you other pre-loggers handle that?

    If I change my mind I look up the food I will use as a replacement to make sure I get in the same range. I also have calories that I bank that can be used for last minute situations as insurance or used on Sunday for a nice lunch.



  • SabAteNine
    SabAteNine Posts: 1,867 Member
    I change the log and put the new item in. If I go over, I will make up for it at some point. This happens to me sometimes when I bring my lunch in forgetting there is an office celebration or taking someone out to lunch for some recognition or whatever. Allowing plans to change and dealing with it is part of a sustainable lifestyle IMO.

    This.

    I pre-log some „fixed” items and standard lazy dinners, or just pre-log lunch before I go out of the office to get it, to make sure I get what and how much I need. It may be that I lose appetite for the options when faced with the actual shopping moment... so then I just change the log. I adjust and replace based on calories and the protein I am trying to hit.
    There are moments in which lunch or dinner turn into office parties or nights out, then I just focus on getting some good filling „base” + whatever liquid or sugary calories there will be, but moderately. If going over happens, it happens.
  • ashxtasticness
    ashxtasticness Posts: 160 Member
    I typically log the night before so I know what to pack/buy. Every now and then something comes up and I'm not home for dinner, or end up going somewhere last minute. I just try to find something that still fits within all of my macros and be done with it.
  • happytree923
    happytree923 Posts: 463 Member
    I always log for the day in the morning and the only day I ever have completely unplanned restaurant trips is on Fridays with coworkers. Since I know I might go out for drinks after work, I keep breakfast and lunch light and if I don't end up going out I get to eat a big dinner when I get home. I always know if advance if I'm going out with friends so I just plan accordingly. If there's a pattern to your last-minute changes maybe you could do something similar?

    Also, logging the entire week in advance seems kind of inflexible to me. I pick out three recipes that can be lunch or dinner and shop for those, then log/decide what I feel like that day in the morning. If I change my mind about what I want for dinner at home it's not a big deal because the meals I plan tend to have about the same number of calories.
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    I tend to eat the same amount of calories for meals pretty much every day. If I need to change I can just find something that is close to the original amount and change the log. I also have calories saved for an afternoon or evening snack that could go to a bigger dinner if I need them.
    Breakfast 100-300 calories
    Lunch about 400 calories
    Dinner about 500 calories
    Snack 100-300 calories

    I only eat out one meal a week and grocery shop once a week so options most days are limited to food in my house. I don't really change my mind about what I want for dinner when I decided to cook a particular item and have the ingredients ready.
    I've been logging for a few years so I know calorie counts of lots of foods which makes it a little easier to substitute also.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    I prelog by day not by week. Also, I usually treat going out to eat as a regular meal , not a treat. I order grilled meat and veggies. If my plans change it's not a big deal. I don't go to places where there's not food I like.
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    I try to pre-log since I always do better about staying on plan when I do. If something changes, then I go back and log the actual and compare it to what I planned. If the changed meal is lunch, then I can tweak dinner as needed. If the changed meal is dinner then maybe I can try to tweak the next day, but a lot of times if it's dinner I just take the hit and miss goal for the day.

    I have found that over time I'm getting pretty good at choosing something different that is still very similar to the original plan so it doesn't throw me off goal. And I do enjoy the spontaneous lunches or dinners out with friends and family which makes the whole health/fitness process less frustrating and more sustainable.
  • Pipsqueak1965
    Pipsqueak1965 Posts: 397 Member
    As long as your calories average out over the week, it doesn't really matter ...
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
    fr33sia12 wrote: »
    I usually pre log my meals daily. If I find I don't want what I planned (usually for evening meal) at least I know how many calories I can play with and choose something different to fit into that amount of calories.

    Me too. And if I eat something not in the days plan, I log it and subtract those calories from my supper — or make an informed to go over.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    nowine4me wrote: »
    fr33sia12 wrote: »
    I usually pre log my meals daily. If I find I don't want what I planned (usually for evening meal) at least I know how many calories I can play with and choose something different to fit into that amount of calories.

    Me too. And if I eat something not in the days plan, I log it and subtract those calories from my supper — or make an informed to go over.

    This is exactly what I do.
  • apullum
    apullum Posts: 4,838 Member
    Depends on what the "something different" is and how "last minute" it is. If the new thing is in the same calorie range, no big deal, I just eat it and change my log to match. If it's substantially more calories and I'm still able to adjust the day's plan to make it fit, I do that. But if it's a lot of calories and I can't make it fit into that day, I'll probably eat it on a different day instead...unless I really REALLY want it and I can't get it later.
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    edited June 2018
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

    I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
    But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

    I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

    How do you other pre-loggers handle that?

    If I want something different, it needs to fit within the original calorie budget. If I can't find anything I want that fits, I go with the original plan.

    But the closer reality is that I buy groceries each week that match *exactly* what I plan to eat that week. So the odds are good that unless I'm swapping meals for another day, I'm pretty much stuck with the original plan. (I also don't keep snack foods in my house, so there's no option of "sit and snack" for dinner.)
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    this is really why i dont do it often. i can plan a day, MAYBE 2 in advance and be ok. But on day 3, whatever it was doesnt sound good anymore. i was wasting FAR more food than I Should when I tried to do it that way.

    so now ... i do it daily, sometimes the day before, but no further out than that.

    i do make a grocery list for the week, but can change things out as i want, and really, most of my routine meals are made with the same key ingredients anyways.
  • nickssweetheart
    nickssweetheart Posts: 874 Member
    I prelog a week at a time. I try really hard not to waste food, and in a household of one that requires some careful planning, especially where produce is concerned.

    If I want something different, I first think about whether I REALLY want it and what that means for the food that I already have in the house. Say I want to go out for lunch. If my lunch is something that's already made, like a soup or stew or leftovers, I ask myself, will it freeze well? If it does AND I really want whatever it is, I have it, and then make the rest of my day work. Sometimes that means a little extra activity, sometimes that means just going over, sometimes that means sipping bubbly water all evening instead of having another meal. Then I bang whatever I was going to eat into the freezer and plan to have it another day.

    If what I was planning won't keep and I really want to deviate, I copy the pre-logged meal into my next day's worth of eating, eat the meal I've decided to have, change the log, and go on from there.

    Mostly, though, if I deviate, it's from the point of moving things around or eating something from the freezer, not just throwing out my plan and going out for tacos and margaritas (not that there's anything wrong with that! I love a good taco and a margarita, but for me, those tend to be planned events, to fit into my caloric and fiscal budgets.)
  • dsboohead
    dsboohead Posts: 1,899 Member
    Meals or foods logged can easily be deleted. I do it all the time with changes of plans.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

    I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
    But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

    I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

    How do you other pre-loggers handle that?

    It makes me stop for a moment and make a conscious decision. It reminds me what I intended to do and gives me an opportunity to see what the consequences would be and go from there. Sometimes I decide I'm being dumb and I eat what I logged. Sometimes I decide the new plan will work just as well, and I delete my prelogged food and log what I'm having. Sometimes I split the difference and make one or two changes.

    If I were constantly deleting my prelogged food, I would perhaps need to take a look at my goals and my plans and see if I'm either being unrealistic in my prelogging or if there is some reason I'm fighting against what I planned.

    No stress. It's all data, and structure, and habit formation :drinker:
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

    I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
    But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

    I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

    How do you other pre-loggers handle that?

    I only ever logged one day in advance...if I changed my mind about something I just deleted whatever it was and then added whatever I ended up eating. Because I was only doing one day in advance, not much changed often.
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    What happens if you decide you want something different last minute?

    I try to plan my meals by the week because it has worked well for me so far.
    But, I worry (probably too strong a word) that I will eat my first and second meal, and then by third meal time, either the group will decide to go out to eat, or I will decide I have a taste for something else, but because I ate earlier average calorie size meals, now I am "stuck" with what I already planned.

    I am here filling out my weekly log, but hesitating to fill in Fri-Sun, because, "What if I want something different then?" The danger, for me, in not pre-planning, is that every time I leave it open, I wind up using more of my exercise calories than I originally intended to use. Since I don't really trust the amount that of exercise calories MFP gives me, it stresses me out. (Neurotic as I am, I don't need any additional things to worry about. ;) )

    How do you other pre-loggers handle that?

    I religiously pre-log but usually only 1-2 days in advance for this very reason, mostly because my wife has some indecision about dinner or some of our lousy family or friends want to do something last minute.
  • RAinWA
    RAinWA Posts: 1,980 Member
    I pre-log Monday to Friday mostly to keep myself organized. If things change, I can always move things around.

    I also only eat in a deficit M-F and eat maintenance on the weekend, so it's a little easier to make adjustments if something happens and I end up going over.
  • lucerorojo
    lucerorojo Posts: 790 Member
    I usually prelog each morning. I change my mind sometimes but will usually fit in something of the same calories. This is easier now since Im not deliberately eating back all my exercise calories. I will plan for my meals without exercise and if I get hungry I'll eat extra. I wasn't losing much lately eating all my exercise calories, although I lost about 40 lbs. Eating them all back.
  • BarroDan
    BarroDan Posts: 1 Member
    Hi, I plan my day around a core 3 meals and 2 snacks. Breakfast, Snack AM, Lunch, Snack PM and then Dinner. But I always include an extras and have a plan to drink a ~300cal Huel V2.3 Vanilla shake, if I am going out for tea, or somewhere that requires me to go off plan, the 500 calories I save for dinner and the 300 for the shake give me some room to play with. Likewise if I over eat at lunch, I will eliminate the extra shake rather than sacrifice the meal for the sake of consistency.

    Also, I pre plan the day before, but if I want to have a pastry instead of porridge, or Friday morning Hash Browns (courtesy of my generous non diet strict friend) I account for the likelihood of this and have to make some real honest changes and review my goals. What's more important to you? Lying on your plan to look good, or having a healthy social diet life.

    Alternatively, if I go to a BBQ/know in advance I'm attending, or something similar, (I am a massive over eater at these events) I will grab my jump rope and do a 500 calorie skip.

    Anyone who want's to follow my diary add as a friend, it's open anyway but I'm always learning about this stuff.

  • HeyJudii
    HeyJudii Posts: 264 Member
    Thank you all for your replies.
    I prelog a week at a time. I try really hard not to waste food, and in a household of one that requires some careful planning, especially where produce is concerned.
    This is closest to my situation.

    If I want something different, I first think about whether I REALLY want it and what that means for the food that I already have in the house. Say I want to go out for lunch. If my lunch is something that's already made, like a soup or stew or leftovers, I ask myself, will it freeze well? If it does AND I really want whatever it is, I have it, and then make the rest of my day work. Sometimes that means a little extra activity, sometimes that means just going over, sometimes that means sipping bubbly water all evening instead of having another meal. Then I bang whatever I was going to eat into the freezer and plan to have it another day.

    If what I was planning won't keep and I really want to deviate, I copy the pre-logged meal into my next day's worth of eating, eat the meal I've decided to have, change the log, and go on from there.

    Mostly, though, if I deviate, it's from the point of moving things around or eating something from the freezer, not just throwing out my plan and going out for tacos and margaritas (not that there's anything wrong with that! I love a good taco and a margarita, but for me, those tend to be planned events, to fit into my caloric and fiscal budgets.)
    This gives me food (ha ha) for thought.
  • HeyJudii
    HeyJudii Posts: 264 Member
    Tough. I eat what I've prepared unless something either drastic or amazing happens to change my plans. I figure if I desperately want something, I'll still desperately want it on the weekend when I can fit it in.
    I definitely will remember this the next time I am waffling about eating what I preplanned.
    Tough love! B)

  • funjen1972
    funjen1972 Posts: 949 Member
    I only plan a day ahead. Sometimes things pop up with friends or I work later than expected so I change the pre-log to what I actually eat. Prelogging still keeps me mindful of caloric intake and helps me make better decisions.
  • sbrooks0387
    sbrooks0387 Posts: 167 Member
    I plan at least a day in advance. Currently I’m planned out through Friday, this is a pretty calm week and Nothing should come up or I wouldn’t be planned out that far.

    If something happens and I can switch my other meals around to make the unplanned meal fit, I do that.

    If I can’t change my breakfast/lunch up (like when hubby bring dinner home unexpectedly), I divide dinner up into appropriate sized meals for what I have calories for and will eat leftovers the next day or two. (Throwing in vegetables if I need to bulk up the meal).

    While you should be flexible and no one wants to be the Debby downer because of their lifestyle change, it’s still important to be able to say no. No to more than one drink. No to eating the entire plate of food, when it could easily be 700+ calories.