Anyone have success on raw till 4

beastmode2718

I’ve seen a lot of videos on YouTube of people loosing a lot of weight and loving the diet but I also see a lot of videos of people gaining a ton of weight and developing serious health issues.

I thought I would enjoy this way of eating and was just curious if anyone had success on it

janejellyroll

If you would enjoy this way of eating, you have total control of whether or not you will gain weight, lose weight, or maintain your weight while doing it. Weight loss is created by a calorie deficit, not by avoiding cooked foods before a certain time of day. So if you want to lose weight and also would like eating raw until 4 PM, then count calories while you're doing it to ensure that you're consistently in a calorie deficit.

To avoid health issues, you'll need to make sure you're consistently getting the nutrients that you need. That can be a particular challenge on raw until 4 (and for raw diets in general). This is another area where logging can help -- logging your food will ensure you're getting sufficient fat and protein to maintain your health. If you plan on completely avoiding animal products, you'll want to ensure you're either taking a B12 supplement or regularly eating foods fortified with B12. Other nutrients to consider for those on plant-based/raw diets are iron, iodine, calcium, and D. Depending on what you are eating, you may choose to supplement these as well.

Here is a helpful guide -- it's designed for vegans, but could be helpful for anyone seeking to reduce or eliminate animal products in their diet: https://veganhealth.org/daily-needs/

tracybear86

I did it for about a month and a half in 2016. I was already a vegetarian considering going vegan. It probably wasn't the easiest way to transition but I tend to do things full on rather than slowly. I actually used the Cronometer app instead of MFP during that time becuase it is a lot easier to track all of your nutrients. I was already taking a multi-vitamin with plenty of B12.
I will say that if you don't like a wide variety of fruits and vegetables you will struggle. Also if you can't handle not having salad dressings or dips with your salads/vegetables you will struggle.
It was not the easiest month and a half and I quit because I just couldn't eat enough during the raw part of the day (I'm allergic to bananas so that didn't help) to keep me energized. I am still fully vegan now but not raw and have lost about 40 pounds.
Freely and her lot have pretty much been dismissed as woo and at this point I would agree. If you are doing this to transition to vegan or whole food plant based there are probably easier ways. If you are doing this for the weight loss there are definetly easier ways.

kommodevaran

This is such a random/specific plan, so I find it intriguing. You could risk malnutrition, but you could also fast until 4PM, eat your usual diet, and still fill the criteria for "raw till 4". So if I were considering a diet plan, I would not just pick one that sounds hip and cool, but also investigate if it is 1) nutritionally sound and 2) practial.

psychod787

Did some research.... macro 80/10/10? Holy "kitten"! So low protein, i would be hungry all the time.

AnnPT77

psychod787 wrote: »

Did some research.... macro 80/10/10? Holy "kitten"! So low protein, i would be hungry all the time.

Yikes! If that's part of the definition, I think you left out "undernourished".

kami3006

That it was invented by Freelee the Banana Girl should be enough to stop a person in his tracks. If not that, the macro split and the use of "detox" throughout its explanation should do it.

kshama2001

That reminds me of when I tried Fit for Life back in the 90's when relatives and my boss were doing it. Then it was "fruit until noon."

I think I lasted a day.

HealthyGinny

kami3006 wrote: »

That it was invented by Freelee the Banana Girl should be enough to stop a person in his tracks. If not that, the macro split and the use of "detox" throughout its explanation should do it.

LOL - I agree!

Why til 4 though? This is so random! And 80/10/10 sounds like madness to me... But to each their own...

kami3006

janejellyroll wrote: »

If you would enjoy this way of eating, you have total control of whether or not you will gain weight, lose weight, or maintain your weight while doing it. Weight loss is created by a calorie deficit, not by avoiding cooked foods before a certain time of day. So if you want to lose weight and also would like eating raw until 4 PM, then count calories while you're doing it to ensure that you're consistently in a calorie deficit.

To avoid health issues, you'll need to make sure you're consistently getting the nutrients that you need. That can be a particular challenge on raw until 4 (and for raw diets in general). This is another area where logging can help -- logging your food will ensure you're getting sufficient fat and protein to maintain your health. If you plan on completely avoiding animal products, you'll want to ensure you're either taking a B12 supplement or regularly eating foods fortified with B12. Other nutrients to consider for those on plant-based/raw diets are iron, iodine, calcium, and D. Depending on what you are eating, you may choose to supplement these as well.

Here is a helpful guide -- it's designed for vegans, but could be helpful for anyone seeking to reduce or eliminate animal products in their diet: https://veganhealth.org/daily-needs/

As usual, Jane's post is excellent.

Nothing wrong with preferring this way of eating but there are much, much healthier ways to go about it.