Junk science out of Scotland - Only fat consumption causes weight gain

tmoneyag99

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

What a horrible study. Science already knows and most of us dieters over 40 already know that fat satiates. We also remember Susan Powter's "Diet Revolution" or whatever that was called and how we all tried to cut fat out of our diets only to get fatter due to the added sugar.


WHAT IN HOLY HELL is going on with science these days? We KNOW this study is false. So many of us have lived it but they still published this garbage?

deannalfisher

i'd agrue that while the study was conducted on mice - it had suffiencent data (100,000measurements over 3 months from 30 different diets) - that there is some validity to the study

just because some people find fat to be more satiating - doesn't negate that this specific study saw an increase in fat mice which occured when they increased the ratio of fat in their diet

cammiecane

I take all animal studies with a grain of salt. There have been plenty of pharmacological trials that worked wonders on animals and then failed or had adverse affects on humans. We’re not the same. Us and mice? Not even close in my eyes.

cwolfman13

tmoneyag99 wrote: »

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

What a horrible study. Science already knows and most of us dieters over 40 already know that fat satiates. We also remember Susan Powter's "Diet Revolution" or whatever that was called and how we all tried to cut fat out of our diets only to get fatter due to the added sugar.


WHAT IN HOLY HELL is going on with science these days? We KNOW this study is false. So many of us have lived it but they still published this garbage?

Just a couple of points...carbohydrate and sugar intake has been on the decline for the better part of 30 years and the obesity epidemic has continued to rise...so I don't think added sugar has much to do with anything. And to that point, I've never actually seen a low fat food item that has added sugar...most of what I see advertised as no fat/low fat with added sugar never had much or any dietary fat anyway...think cereals.

Also, absent of something like a keto diet, dietary fat is much more easily stored as body fat. It is also 9 calories per gram vs 4 calories per gram for carbs or protein making it much easier to get into a surplus with less actual food. In this study it looks like one of their conclusions was that the mice liked the fat and ate more because of it, thus putting the mice into a surplus and putting on fat.

Not everyone is satiated by dietary fat. I am most certainly not...and if you look at actual satiation studies, complex carbohydrates with fiber are typically the most satiating for most people. Add to that, while carbs get a bad rap these days, if you actually look at the "carbs" people are claiming to be addicted to, they are typically items with as much, if not more calories coming from dietary fat.

Ultimately, gaining fat has nothing directly to do with fat or carbs or anything else. Fat doesn't make you fat...neither do carbs...excess calories make you fat. I don't really advocate for a low fat diet or a high fat diet...I'm kind of a middle...balanced diet kinda guy and avoid extremes of the diet spectrum.

This study isn't really saying that fat in and of itself causes weight gain...only that the mice liked it more and thus ate more...which kind of makes sense to me since I can have some cheese and then go to town on an entire block.

seska422

cwolfman13 wrote: »

This study isn't really saying that fat in and of itself causes weight gain...only that the mice liked it more and thus ate more...which kind of makes sense to me since I can have some cheese and then go to town on an entire block.

That's why this is junk journalism rather than junk science. The article headline says:

New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain