Macros vs calories (keto)

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  • psuLemon
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    I’ve just started keto and had too many carbs but can balance out my macros if I go 700 cals over, so my question is....

    Which is more important? Meeting your daily macros or calories?

    For keto, you macros matter in that you can't go over a certain amount of carbs to remain in ketosis...but calories always matter for weight loss. Keto isn't some kind of magical thing that negates the laws of thermodynamics.

    I know it’s a science , a bit like baking a cake , do it to the recipe or it’s not gonna work! 😊

    As long as it keeps my blood sugar levels out of diabetic range and shifts about 20lbs then I’m happy living the rest of my life on it 😋

    A couple of thoughts. Losing the weight alone will reduce your blood sugar levels. Keto or even low carb will help. Once you are at a more healthy weight, you may not need to do keto or low carb to keep your blood sugar in a healthy range. Healthy body weight and vigorous exercise alone can do it.

    I know this from experience. I lowered my blood sugar and a1c from prediabetic levels to low normal this way. I never did keto. I naturally tend to eat slightly low carb as my prefered way of eating but that was also true when I was 30lbs heavier with high BG and a1c.

    Lastly, I be a little careful about declaring what you might be willing to do for the rest of your life on the first day. While keto may be prescriptive for you for a period and help with your BG, it is waaaayyy too early to be talking about what you will do for the rest of your life.

    You may like this way of eating. Some do. Or you may get tired of not having carbs after your weight is down and BG is normal and be perfectly healthy going back to a moderate level of carbs. Especially if you make a lifestyle change to include regular vigorous exercise, which will go a long way towards keeping your BG in a good range. Quite honestly, vigorous exercise while doing keto can really suck without carbs to fuel your workouts.

    I know what you mean I’ve been around the houses the past few years trying to get out of the pre diabetic range using several different diets , unfortunately I have several medical issues conflicting with losing weight and I can’t exercise anymore at all but I’m under a physio regularly to get me moving again.

    Ah, got it. Then possibly, along with weight loss, keto or low carb will be a great solution for you. I tend to eat between 100 and 150 gr of carbs per day as an 185 lb man. It is just my preference. I like protein and high fiber fruits and veggies. Not one for starchy carbs that often and don't have much of a sweet tooth. I think when you drop the 20lbs you'll be surprised at how easy it is to keep the BG in a good range! Are you able to walk? Just walking 2 or 3 miles per day can make a big difference in helping to balance BG.

    All the best and if there is any way I can help, feel free to reach out. I was not T2D but was headed that way a few years ago.

    Agree on exercise... It has been shown to improve insulin sensitivity, which is highly beneficial and can improve fatty acid mobilization. So building up some exercise, along with losing weight, will improve insulin control.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,088 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    mojo6812 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    mojo6812 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    mojo6812 wrote: »
    I’ve just started keto and had too many carbs but can balance out my macros if I go 700 cals over, so my question is....

    Which is more important? Meeting your daily macros or calories?

    For keto, you macros matter in that you can't go over a certain amount of carbs to remain in ketosis...but calories always matter for weight loss. Keto isn't some kind of magical thing that negates the laws of thermodynamics.

    I know it’s a science , a bit like baking a cake , do it to the recipe or it’s not gonna work! 😊

    As long as it keeps my blood sugar levels out of diabetic range and shifts about 20lbs then I’m happy living the rest of my life on it 😋

    A couple of thoughts. Losing the weight alone will reduce your blood sugar levels. Keto or even low carb will help. Once you are at a more healthy weight, you may not need to do keto or low carb to keep your blood sugar in a healthy range. Healthy body weight and vigorous exercise alone can do it.

    I know this from experience. I lowered my blood sugar and a1c from prediabetic levels to low normal this way. I never did keto. I naturally tend to eat slightly low carb as my prefered way of eating but that was also true when I was 30lbs heavier with high BG and a1c.

    Lastly, I be a little careful about declaring what you might be willing to do for the rest of your life on the first day. While keto may be prescriptive for you for a period and help with your BG, it is waaaayyy too early to be talking about what you will do for the rest of your life.

    You may like this way of eating. Some do. Or you may get tired of not having carbs after your weight is down and BG is normal and be perfectly healthy going back to a moderate level of carbs. Especially if you make a lifestyle change to include regular vigorous exercise, which will go a long way towards keeping your BG in a good range. Quite honestly, vigorous exercise while doing keto can really suck without carbs to fuel your workouts.

    I know what you mean I’ve been around the houses the past few years trying to get out of the pre diabetic range using several different diets , unfortunately I have several medical issues conflicting with losing weight and I can’t exercise anymore at all but I’m under a physio regularly to get me moving again.

    Ah, got it. Then possibly, along with weight loss, keto or low carb will be a great solution for you. I tend to eat between 100 and 150 gr of carbs per day as an 185 lb man. It is just my preference. I like protein and high fiber fruits and veggies. Not one for starchy carbs that often and don't have much of a sweet tooth. I think when you drop the 20lbs you'll be surprised at how easy it is to keep the BG in a good range! Are you able to walk? Just walking 2 or 3 miles per day can make a big difference in helping to balance BG.

    All the best and if there is any way I can help, feel free to reach out. I was not T2D but was headed that way a few years ago.

    Agree on exercise... It has been shown to improve insulin sensitivity, which is highly beneficial and can improve fatty acid mobilization. So building up some exercise, along with losing weight, will improve insulin control.

    Yep. It does. I also want to state that the ADA does have it's head in its kitten sometimes, but i think they recommend 45% of diet from carbs. You state you can go Keto forever? Are you sure? I know my b.s. greatly improved with weight loss and diet. Fasting 77-85. Could be because I am lean now. Also as active as a rodent on Ritalin. I hope the best for you.