Reverse Dieting?
HayleeRenaeFit
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I have been dieting for a little bit and am happy where I am at. I’m hoping to slowly add in more calories to keep my physique. I have heard of reverse dieting and I want to try it out. Is anyone familiar with it? Or has it helped/worked?
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Reverse dieting? As in gaining weight instead of losing it? Yeah. I have a lot of experience with it.32
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I'm not familiar... what is it?0
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Are you wanting to reverse diet out of a deficit into maintenance, or are you wanting to try bumping up your maintenance calories without gaining weight?
If the former find what your MFP cals for maintenance are then add 50-100 cals a week to your deficit number until you reach your maintenance number.
You will put on a little weight but this is water and food in transit.
The MFP maintenance estimate is just that, an estimate. Monitor your weight and adjust as needed.
Another way of doing it is to slowly add on the cals equal to the rate you were losing at. If losing at 0.5 a week you would expect to slowly op your cals by 250 a day.
If it is the latter and you have been in maintenance a while and are wanting to see if you can eat more but still maintain your weight. Add a small amount of cals 25-100 every couple of weeks, monitor your weight and pull back if you start gaining.
This reverse dieting can work for some as a slightly higher calorie goal can increase ones energy level which in turn can increase ones NEAT.
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I've been interested in this too. As far as I know, all it entails is adding a small amount of calories gradually and keeping careful track. I personally have too much going on lately to screw with my TDEE (stopped breast-feeding, still cutting, etc.) to try to do it myself but it's definitely worth a try, especially for you since you train so frequently.0
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I have only being cutting for about 5 or 6 weeks this time and I'm already thinking of after the cut. I am supposed to be losing 200g (roughly 1/2 a pound) but am averaging anywhere from 200 to 800 g. I know from experience that under 68 kg is where I feel awful. So around 4 kg to go. The last time I lost too much, had trouble finding maintenance, got sick and gave up. I think reverse dieting will help this time. Plus starting at a higher calorie count. I am active , healthy weight ( at 72), but need to reduce my waist. So classic skinny fat mummy body. I aim to keep going with my current three days of lifting as I am really enjoying it, and hopefully recomp. Plus at 37 I need to keep up with my kids as they get older, and set good examples.
Let us know how you find reverse dieting0 -
@middlehaitch thank you so much, this helps a ton! I am coming out of a deficit and would like to build my maintenance, very insightful1
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I reverse dieted after a comp - I was very lean, finished on very low calories and my RMR was very low. I went straight to my "new" maintenance (approximated from my RMR) then added calories in small amounts as I was able (determined by weight and measurements/skinfolds). I was able to get my calories up quite a lot without accumulating too much fat0
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Good morning, @HayleeRenaeFit !
A reverse diet is essentially the anti-diet! You have been dieting and reducing "calories in" and increasing "calories out" (via Cardio and whatnot). The balance is lost. Depending on the time spent in the diet, you very well may have adjusted down (metabolically speaking).
The reverse diet is the way to bring your caloric intake back up and - in a planned and controlled way - to restore hormones (if you lowered fat intake - which many do in an attempt to reduce caloric intake) and to bring back things back up (metabolically speaking).
And, this *often* does not result in an increase in body weight (and very slight if it does). I have helped a few women who have even lost weight from doing a well controlled reverse diet.
There has been a lot of talk about this for a long time. Layne Norton and Paul Revelia and Lyle McDonald and Eric Helms have great youtube videos on this.
Back in the day there was the school of thought that you would increase calories by about 100 (well, that number was more of a range, which depended on lots of factors....generally the range was somewhere between 50 and 125....that depended on the person and the situation) each week. Eventually, you would reach maintenance. You might stick at maintenance for a couple of weeks. Then you would start increasing again. I helped a few ladies with this process two years ago.
More recent work shows that jumping from the diet caloric intake level right to maintenance caloric intake level might be the smarter move. I do not remember where I heard this, but someone used the example of a bikini competitor who got really lean and really low (caloric intake) and reversed slowly....took a few months just to get back to maintenance levels. Anyway, that lady - when all was said and done - did have have a menstrual cycle for more than one year!
Does this make sense? I never know if my 10,000 words paint the picture in my head!4 -
And, forgot...see, picture painted with words vs the one in my head does not always translate well....
A big part of the goal for reverse dieting is to get you back in a position for another show....or, to bring you back to a healthy(ier) metabolic state. Often, people who do a well planned reverse diet will put themselves at a higher maintenance caloric intake.
Layne Norton and Holly Baxter just completed a Reverse Diet (for Holly . It went really well....I am linking some of the youtube videos that I have seen on this topic for your information...lots of good stuff in there!
Setting up Holly's Reverse Diet (It's about time!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZkRRiRLvxc
----They have a weekly update where Layne and Holly review a huge spread sheet with detailed work.
Reverse Diet Success
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7wuay7xW1M&t=1087s
Paul Revelia and Jamie go over her struggles with competitions and coaches and diets. AMAZING!
Reverse Diet | When You Should Stop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCzrIkJEOAE
Paul Revelia talks about when your reverse diet could be done!
Reverse Dieting: eat more, feel better! / Journey to my Best Self EPS 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO-cftbbWo&t=618s
DesB talks about her experiences (awesome chick)
The Recovery Diet for Physique Athletes by Team 3DMJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDKhDjuPfbU
Eric Helms talks about Reverse Dieting
Interview With Lyle McDonald | Part 1 | Nutrition and Training for Women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7eIZWKkBq0
Jeff Nippard and Lyle McDonald discuss women's nutrition and training
Interview With Lyle McDonald | Part 2 | Reverse Dieting, Metabolic Damage & Training Volume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqw-RJzrOjI
Jeff Nippard and Lyle McDonald discuss women's nutrition and training
There is a TON of really amazing information in these YouTube Vidoes. The Jeff N | Lyle M videos are each like 80 minutes long....just an FYI.
I really hope that this helps!5 -
Oh wow great links @LiftHeavyThings27105 thanks for sharing those.
What I've typically seen is adding 50-150cals per week or every few days until you hit maintenance. If you know your maintenance you can aim for that but also pay attention to the scale as you go since it might be lower or higher depending on your new weight, activity level, amount of muscle etc. It can take a bit of trial and error. For me because I don't track it is a bit more tricky and takes a bit longer, I will add an extra snack or portion per week.. and monitor my weight as I go.0 -
emmylootwo wrote: »Reverse dieting? As in gaining weight instead of losing it? Yeah. I have a lot of experience with it.
My thoughts exactly hahaha 😂1 -
Zoejohnse91 wrote: »emmylootwo wrote: »Reverse dieting? As in gaining weight instead of losing it? Yeah. I have a lot of experience with it.
My thoughts exactly hahaha 😂
Lol. I thought it was super funny too. Why all the woo's???1 -
Oh wow great links @LiftHeavyThings27105 thanks for sharing those.
What I've typically seen is adding 50-150cals per week or every few days until you hit maintenance. If you know your maintenance you can aim for that but also pay attention to the scale as you go since it might be lower or higher depending on your new weight, activity level, amount of muscle etc. It can take a bit of trial and error. For me because I don't track it is a bit more tricky and takes a bit longer, I will add an extra snack or portion per week.. and monitor my weight as I go.
Glad to help. There are likely several more, but all of those that I included I have actually watched (two or three times). There is such a wide array of information out there....it is difficult - at times - to know what is hogwash and what is valid. Anyway, as mentioned, always glad to contribute and to help.3 -
LiftHeavyThings27105 wrote: »Oh wow great links @LiftHeavyThings27105 thanks for sharing those.
What I've typically seen is adding 50-150cals per week or every few days until you hit maintenance. If you know your maintenance you can aim for that but also pay attention to the scale as you go since it might be lower or higher depending on your new weight, activity level, amount of muscle etc. It can take a bit of trial and error. For me because I don't track it is a bit more tricky and takes a bit longer, I will add an extra snack or portion per week.. and monitor my weight as I go.
Glad to help. There are likely several more, but all of those that I included I have actually watched (two or three times). There is such a wide array of information out there....it is difficult - at times - to know what is hogwash and what is valid. Anyway, as mentioned, always glad to contribute and to help.
Not sure why this is getting woo'd, but I appreciate the videos as well. Thank you!2
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