To quit keto or not quit keto?

KrazyKrissyy

WinoGelato wrote: »

SweatLikeDog wrote: »

Keep your keto, reduce your calories. No brainer. Maintenance is around 14 cals/lb for mildly active women. Choose your deficit 10%, 20%...your call.

I have never yet seen one of these quick formulas that is remotely accurate. That’s about 600 calories below my actual maintenance. Why wouldn’t OP just use the recommendations from MFP and you know, actually track her calories to try to stay within a deficit to lose the weight she’s recently gained... the issue isn’t that she needs a quick formula, it’s that she was under the misguided impression that calories don’t matter if you’re eating keto. Simply paying attention to CICO should help her get the situation back in control.

I mentioned earlier that I did try counting on keto here and there but it's hard to stick to. I feel constantly hungry and thinking about food all the time (something I never did on my former eating, when unfortunately I was having lots of seizures). Maybe my stomach is super stretched out? Idk

KrazyKrissyy

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

Running_and_Coffee wrote: »

MelanieCN77 wrote: »

KrazyKrissyy wrote: »

Decapins wrote: »

are you counting calories on keto? I don't see why you can't lose weight while doing keto

I was told calories dont matter on keto. Granted, I do still occasionally count despite what people swear by "no need to count." But calorie deficit seems a lot harder on keto as opposed to my former, higher volume lower calorie diet. I'm a volume eater.

I just don't think you get to be a volume eater on a keto diet.

Nope, you don't. It's the opposite. The amount of "noatmeal" I can eat for the calories in real oatmeal fits into a shot glass. But that's sort of the point. People who do well on keto are people who needed to learn how to put the fork down. I say this from personal experience. I needed to learn what it meant to stop eating when satisfied.

You're satisfied by fat, but the OP isn't. So small portions of high fat foods won't satisfy her.

Different people have different satiety triggers.

Also, to all the people suggesting that she just low carb, IIRC, the keto protocol for controlling epileptic seizures is to have very high fat and very low carb. It's that particular macro mix, so perhaps the level of ketosis, that controls the seizures.

OP, I highly suggest you talk to your neurologist.

Thanks, will do. I see her in a month (her next availability). Will try my best to hang in there in the meantime.

GottaBurnEmAll

KrazyKrissyy wrote: »

WinoGelato wrote: »

SweatLikeDog wrote: »

Keep your keto, reduce your calories. No brainer. Maintenance is around 14 cals/lb for mildly active women. Choose your deficit 10%, 20%...your call.

I have never yet seen one of these quick formulas that is remotely accurate. That’s about 600 calories below my actual maintenance. Why wouldn’t OP just use the recommendations from MFP and you know, actually track her calories to try to stay within a deficit to lose the weight she’s recently gained... the issue isn’t that she needs a quick formula, it’s that she was under the misguided impression that calories don’t matter if you’re eating keto. Simply paying attention to CICO should help her get the situation back in control.

I mentioned earlier that I did try counting on keto here and there but it's hard to stick to. I feel constantly hungry and thinking about food all the time (something I never did on my former eating, when unfortunately I was having lots of seizures). Maybe my stomach is super stretched out? Idk

It's not that, it's probably that you found fiber combined with protein filling.

A macro mix of protein, fat and fiber would likely be filling for you too, but it would be difficult for you to achieve that and have enough fat to control your seizures, I think.

KrazyKrissyy

Thank you, everyone, for the suggestions. I'll try them out (well, the ones I probably can). I see my neurologist in 4 weeks. No sooner availabilities.
I've had epilepsy since early childhood, by the way (after a head injury when I was 5 or 6) so it's not a result of dieting. And as for my former weight of 117, I felt more energized, light, flexible, etc, back then. I even did lots of sprinting and yoga without struggle while now (at around 150) I feel more tired, heavy, less flexible, and very sluggish. And I wouldn't mind being 125. Not much of a difference from 117. In fact, I was technically 125 at one point and still felt good. It wasn't until I hit 135 or so that I began to literally feel the weight coming on and it became harder to exercise (losing breath easier, taking daily naps, blood pressure increase, etc).

rpmkarting

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

WinoGelato wrote: »

Bookmarking this for the next time someone says “everyone doing keto knows calorie deficit is required for weight loss, no one says otherwise”

OP I would speak with your doctor and do some further research (real research, not whatever site told you that calories didn’t matter on keto) about if there is a carb threshold that impacts your seizures, maybe you can maintain the positive health benefits for your condition without being fully in ketosis. Even if you start tracking your calories it doesn’t seem like this is your preferred way of eating so it’s a bit of a conundrum. Good luck.

This. Find out how many carbs you can eat to keep your seizures lower. And then eat them. Your "after" photos include no leafy green vegetables. That doesn't sound fun at all. Perhaps a nutritionist working with your doctor can show you how to eat a nutrient dense, delicious keto level diet.
Here's a visual: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/20-50-how-much

PS: Are you aiming for a weight BETWEEN 117 and 151? 117 is 3 pounds from underweight, of course.
Best of luck.

I always find this funny. Who determines what is under weight? If it is any doctor in “obese” us of a I wouldn’t trust what they recommend. 😂

My wife was just talking about this, the doctor tells her she is underweight. Really, there is a reason America is known to be fat. Maybe what “they” consider underweight is actually a healthy weight.

livingleanlivingclean

rpmkarting wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

WinoGelato wrote: »

Bookmarking this for the next time someone says “everyone doing keto knows calorie deficit is required for weight loss, no one says otherwise”

OP I would speak with your doctor and do some further research (real research, not whatever site told you that calories didn’t matter on keto) about if there is a carb threshold that impacts your seizures, maybe you can maintain the positive health benefits for your condition without being fully in ketosis. Even if you start tracking your calories it doesn’t seem like this is your preferred way of eating so it’s a bit of a conundrum. Good luck.

This. Find out how many carbs you can eat to keep your seizures lower. And then eat them. Your "after" photos include no leafy green vegetables. That doesn't sound fun at all. Perhaps a nutritionist working with your doctor can show you how to eat a nutrient dense, delicious keto level diet.
Here's a visual: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/20-50-how-much

PS: Are you aiming for a weight BETWEEN 117 and 151? 117 is 3 pounds from underweight, of course.
Best of luck.

I always find this funny. Who determines what is under weight? If it is any doctor in “obese” us of a I wouldn’t trust what they recommend. 😂

My wife was just talking about this, the doctor tells her she is underweight. Really, there is a reason America is known to be fat. Maybe what “they” consider underweight is actually a healthy weight.

It is usually determined using the bmi scale. Which is also used to determine that the USA has a high rate of obesity.