Should I eat back these Fitbit/MFP calories?
nat8199
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I am 5'3'' and 125.6 pounds. I am 2 pounds away from my goal weight and slowly switching to maintenance. My TDEE is anywhere from 1840 to 2004 depending on which calculator I use. My goal for 1lb a week is 1400 according to MFP and I have is adjusted to 1550.
I did NOT work out today, though I have been doing a lot of errands and chores. My fitbit has me at 11803 steps today. MFP is telling me to eat an extra 431 calories above the 1550. It told me to eat a lot yesterday, too, but I had done 30+ minutes of pretty intense cardio plus some light weight training.
With so little intentional exercise today, doesn't that seem like a lot to eat back? Since I knew I wouldn't go to the gym today, I really hadn't fit those into my meal plan at all.
WWYD?
I did NOT work out today, though I have been doing a lot of errands and chores. My fitbit has me at 11803 steps today. MFP is telling me to eat an extra 431 calories above the 1550. It told me to eat a lot yesterday, too, but I had done 30+ minutes of pretty intense cardio plus some light weight training.
With so little intentional exercise today, doesn't that seem like a lot to eat back? Since I knew I wouldn't go to the gym today, I really hadn't fit those into my meal plan at all.
WWYD?
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I only eat back a portion of the calories that my fitbit says or even MFP syas- most time- no more than 50% of the calories.2
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Okay. Easy way to solve this delimma (although it does involve a little math).
I’m going to start by saying ignore the TDEE calculations you have from online calculators.
First step is to look at how much you have been eating on average for the past month. An easy way to see this is to go to reports on MFP, add the last 30 days together and divide by 30. **Make sure you are looking at Total calories and not NET**
Now take the weight you lost over the past 30 days and multiply that by 3500. That will be how many calories you were under maintenance for the month. Divide that by 30 and you will have your average daily deficit.
Add your average intake to your average deficit and you will have your average TDEE based on actual results.
You can the go to Fitbits website and navigate to your profile. You should see a 30 Day average burn. Does it match the average you calculated?16 -
shadow2soul wrote: »Okay. Easy way to solve this delimma (although it does involve a little math).
I’m going to start by saying ignore the TDEE calculations you have from online calculators.
First step is to look at how much you have been eating on average for the past month. An easy way to see this is to go to reports on MFP, add the last 30 days together and divide by 30. **Make sure you are looking at Total calories and not NET**
Now take the weight you lost over the past 30 days and multiply that by 3500. That will be how many calories you were under maintenance for the month. Divide that by 30 and you will have your average daily deficit.
Add your average intake to your average deficit and you will have your average TDEE based on actual results.
You can the go to Fitbits website and navigate to your profile. You should see a 30 Day average burn. Does it match the average you calculated?
Holy Cow! This is some very, very advanced use of MFP and fitbit data! I am going to work through this as soon as my kids stop literally running in circles.4 -
shadow2soul wrote: »Okay. Easy way to solve this delimma (although it does involve a little math).
I’m going to start by saying ignore the TDEE calculations you have from online calculators.
First step is to look at how much you have been eating on average for the past month. An easy way to see this is to go to reports on MFP, add the last 30 days together and divide by 30. **Make sure you are looking at Total calories and not NET**
Now take the weight you lost over the past 30 days and multiply that by 3500. That will be how many calories you were under maintenance for the month. Divide that by 30 and you will have your average daily deficit.
Add your average intake to your average deficit and you will have your average TDEE based on actual results.
You can the go to Fitbits website and navigate to your profile. You should see a 30 Day average burn. Does it match the average you calculated?
Awesome! My calculations and my average 3mo burn on my Fitbit app were only 15 calories apart! So... I guess my TDEE is 2175? That seems really, high, but I will move my calories up towards that until I am maintaining my weight, right? And then I will just make sure I am eating a few hundred under that for today.
THANK YOU!!!!
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This is really great. Thanks! I am 112 calories off between my Fitbit and average, and 118 off a TDEE calculator. Not bad considering ~100 calories could be due to inaccurate logging or fluctuations in my scale!!2
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Great info! Encourages me to stick to much more accurate logging too.
Thanks!0 -
shadow2soul wrote: »Okay. Easy way to solve this delimma (although it does involve a little math).
I’m going to start by saying ignore the TDEE calculations you have from online calculators.
First step is to look at how much you have been eating on average for the past month. An easy way to see this is to go to reports on MFP, add the last 30 days together and divide by 30. **Make sure you are looking at Total calories and not NET**
Now take the weight you lost over the past 30 days and multiply that by 3500. That will be how many calories you were under maintenance for the month. Divide that by 30 and you will have your average daily deficit.
Add your average intake to your average deficit and you will have your average TDEE based on actual results.
You can the go to Fitbits website and navigate to your profile. You should see a 30 Day average burn. Does it match the average you calculated?
Awesome! My calculations and my average 3mo burn on my Fitbit app were only 15 calories apart! So... I guess my TDEE is 2175? That seems really, high, but I will move my calories up towards that until I am maintaining my weight, right? And then I will just make sure I am eating a few hundred under that for today.
THANK YOU!!!!
For what it’s worth I’m 5’2, and maintaining at 118 (+/- 2 lbs) with average burn from FitBit at about 2200 calories. I average ~12k steps a day. I’ve always eaten back the adjustments and lost weight and maintained it according to my plan.
Many people just assume they must have a low calorie target because they are petite females but many people can eat more than they think and still lose or maintain.
Enjoy the extra calories!5 -
I am a firm believer in keeping it simple. As this is not a regular occurrence then ask yourself if you are hungry? If you are then eat at least some of them back. If not then don't bother. If more regular you would need a more accurate idea of how much to eat back though.3
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Not to derail this thread, but I've done the math. I average 1665 rounded intake, but Fitbit says I burn 2400 per day. Libra says my trend is .25 lb loss per week. So obviously things aren't adding up. How do I fix this?0
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New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Not to derail this thread, but I've done the math. I average 1665 rounded intake, but Fitbit says I burn 2400 per day. Libra says my trend is .25 lb loss per week. So obviously things aren't adding up. How do I fix this?
MFP uses the NEAT method (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis), and as such this system is designed for exercise calories to be eaten back. However, many consider the burns given by MFP to be inflated and only eat a percentage, such as 50%, back. Others, however, are able to lose weight while eating 100% of their exercise calories.
My FitBit One is less generous with calories than the MFP database and I comfortably eat 100% of the calories I earn from it back.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/818082/exercise-calories-again-wtf/p12 -
New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Not to derail this thread, but I've done the math. I average 1665 rounded intake, but Fitbit says I burn 2400 per day. Libra says my trend is .25 lb loss per week. So obviously things aren't adding up. How do I fix this?
Make sure with the intake # you are averaging total calories and not NET calories. Using the NET calories will throw off the calculation and make your TDEE seem lower than it actually is.
Definitely double check entries you are using to log food. Not all entries are correct (even verified can be off). I’ve seen chicken entries with only 1/3 the calories.
Also consider how you are determining portion sizes. Eyeballing portions is the least accurate method and can leave hundreds of calories uncounted. Measuring cups are better than eyeballing and a food scale is the most accurate option.
If you have any medical concerns that lower metabolism, than Fitbit’s burn will be over inflated.
You could also just have a lower than average metabolism. Again making Fitbit reading over inflated.
If your Fitbit has the HRM, maybe turn it off unless you are exercising. See if that helps lower Fitbits estimate.4 -
shadow2soul wrote: »Okay. Easy way to solve this delimma (although it does involve a little math).
I’m going to start by saying ignore the TDEE calculations you have from online calculators.
First step is to look at how much you have been eating on average for the past month. An easy way to see this is to go to reports on MFP, add the last 30 days together and divide by 30. **Make sure you are looking at Total calories and not NET**
Now take the weight you lost over the past 30 days and multiply that by 3500. That will be how many calories you were under maintenance for the month. Divide that by 30 and you will have your average daily deficit.
Add your average intake to your average deficit and you will have your average TDEE based on actual results.
You can the go to Fitbits website and navigate to your profile. You should see a 30 Day average burn. Does it match the average you calculated?
Awesome! My calculations and my average 3mo burn on my Fitbit app were only 15 calories apart! So... I guess my TDEE is 2175? That seems really, high, but I will move my calories up towards that until I am maintaining my weight, right? And then I will just make sure I am eating a few hundred under that for today.
THANK YOU!!!!
That's not particularly high if you're exercising regularly and regularly getting in a good number of steps. The average light active female is going to maintain on roughly 1800-2000 calories and that's without doing a whole lot in regards to deliberate exercise.
I think women see these numbers and think it's a lot because they've been programmed to think they need to eat like birds.6 -
shadow2soul wrote: »New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Not to derail this thread, but I've done the math. I average 1665 rounded intake, but Fitbit says I burn 2400 per day. Libra says my trend is .25 lb loss per week. So obviously things aren't adding up. How do I fix this?
Make sure with the intake # you are averaging total calories and not NET calories. Using the NET calories will throw off the calculation and make your TDEE seem lower than it actually is.
Definitely double check entries you are using to log food. Not all entries are correct (even verified can be off). I’ve seen chicken entries with only 1/3 the calories.
Also consider how you are determining portion sizes. Eyeballing portions is the least accurate method and can leave hundreds of calories uncounted. Measuring cups are better than eyeballing and a food scale is the most accurate option.
If you have any medical concerns that lower metabolism, than Fitbit’s burn will be over inflated.
You could also just have a lower than average metabolism. Again making Fitbit reading over inflated.
If your Fitbit has the HRM, maybe turn it off unless you are exercising. See if that helps lower Fitbits estimate.
I 100% endorse the above: Most commonly, major discrepancies are due to imprecise logging or misunderstanding the math, or perhaps an overlooked issue with Fitbit settings (stride length seems to be a common one, but there are others).
That said, I'd also note that Fitbit is just giving you an estimate, not actually measuring your calorie burn. It's quite a personalized estimate, and based on extensive research, so it will be likely to be pretty close for most people. But, because the underlying methods involve statistical estimates based on things that aren't calories (movement, heart rate, etc.), the estimates can be wrong for a few people, and very wrong for a very, very few people.
We all tend to think that technology is kind of magical, especially technology that we don't understand the inner workings of. We think it calculates or measures things, when it doesn't (it estimates). Fitbits, heart rate monitors, and similar devices estimate calorie burn. TDEE calculators (or the MFP NEAT calculators) estimate calorie burn. The bar code scanner way of inputting food on MFP is no more accurate than inputting food via a keyboard. There's no techno-magic here (yet, anyway ).
Well-designed statistical estimates are likely to be close to accurate for most people, if the inputs/settings are accurate. But they will be less accurate for a few. That's how these kinds of statistics work: Not everyone is in the middle of the bell curve, even though (by definition) most people are.5 -
Do you plan on going straight into maintenance calories or doing a reverse diet? I’m asking bc I started a reverse diet this past week. I’m also 5”2 and a chronic dieter....I’ve been in a deficit for a long time & need to get my calories back up.0
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Worth the couple minutes it takes to watch: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10503681/exercise-calories-do-i-eat-these-a-video-explanation/p10
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