Does Saturated Fat Affect Cholesterol Levels?

nvmomketo

psuLemon wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

I would go with Nina Teicholtz's Big Fat Surprise. She dives into where that myth that saturated fat=bad really are from.

... It dies seem to be getting less common now that it was a few years ago.

Dave Feldman has a collection if N=1 experiments on high fat and cholesterol. His stuff is worth looking into IMO.

Is there any way to learn from Teicholtz without buying her book or subscribing to her newsletter? Because her "Big Fat Surprise" branded website that sells her book and investigative journalism and keeps popping up an offer for her newsletter doesn't instill confidence. Maybe I just didn't go through enough pages in my google search?

I googled David Feldman and came up with a stand up comedian, a professor of physics, a court reporter, and an orthopedist. Then I added "cholesterol" to the search and found the blog Cholesterol Code that says he's a Software Engineer and entrepreneur who does LCHF and learned everything through his own research and experiments. What he's done might be fascinating, but I don't know if I would trust my future health to him.

I guess for me personally, I would want more than journalists and hobbyists if I'm going to declare the recommendation of all sorts of health orgs outdated. I'm not saying their not, just that I wouldn't be convinced. I'll definitely check out the Cholesterol Code out of curiosity when I get more time.

Thanks for starting this thread @ladyhusker39 , fascinating stuff to read this weekend now!

I read Teicholtz's book from the library. Her book is where I got my information although she has done some good lectures.

This one was one of her earlier lectures. I find some of the more recent ones to be better but often longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHGiid6N9Q&vl=en


Dave Feldman is an engineer with interesting n=1 experiments which have been replicated dozens of times. You might not want to base all of your health on him, but his self experiments made me think. Consistently he shows that:

High fat + high calories = lower cholesterol and triglycerides within three days. And that, low calorie + low fat = raised cholesterol levels within 3 days.

This is a very early video. Later videos get into the results of others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZu52duIqno&vl=en

Those changes in triglycerides is pretty well established though. Lower carbs increases free flowing fatty acids. Lyle McDonald talks about that stuff in booka written in like 2001. That is why its important to not get bloodwork not when dieting or after sweeping changes in diet.

I know. You'd think doctors and the public would have become aware of it by know... About twenty years later.

ladyhusker39

emjay196363 wrote: »

OP, thanks for starting this thread. I'm really confused right now about sat fat, after my last blood work showed high cholesterol and very high triglycerides. I'm doing lots of research myself.

It looks like there's a lot of question about this relationship right now. I guess I'm not the only one who's unsure about the science or how to apply it to my eating habits. I eat a balanced diet with just enough low nutrient foods to keep my sweet tooth happy, so I'm not worried about it myself. But I think it's one of those things right now that falls under the "better safe than sorry" category if you have health concerns like you do.

All the best in figuring out a good strategy to manage your situation.

CharlieBeansmomTracey

emjay196363 wrote: »

OP, thanks for starting this thread. I'm really confused right now about sat fat, after my last blood work showed high cholesterol and very high triglycerides. I'm doing lots of research myself.

if you are having issues with your cholesterol its best to watch your sat fat intake. talk to your dr and see if they recommend a low fat /low cholesterol diet or not. they might depending on your numbers. high cholesterol also can be hereditary.

elsie6hickman

I will say this - I do not readily accept every "new" idea that comes around. I look at the study, who is was conducted by, who paid for the research, how many people, for how long and what age. My cardiologist told me in May to limit saturated fats and avoid transfats (which I do). Now it could be that he is just getting a kick back from the drug companies, but I don't think so, since my GP says it too. I don't have heart disease, but my father had a triple bypass when he was 70, so perhaps he is thinking genetics. But with the way my father eats, and has always eaten, it's enough proof to me that saturated fats are just not good for you. But that is just my observation.

CharlieBeansmomTracey

elsie6hickman wrote: »

I will say this - I do not readily accept every "new" idea that comes around. I look at the study, who is was conducted by, who paid for the research, how many people, for how long and what age. My cardiologist told me in May to limit saturated fats and avoid transfats (which I do). Now it could be that he is just getting a kick back from the drug companies, but I don't think so, since my GP says it too. I don't have heart disease, but my father had a triple bypass when he was 70, so perhaps he is thinking genetics. But with the way my father eats, and has always eaten, it's enough proof to me that saturated fats are just not good for you. But that is just my observation.

it could be genetic but the only way to tell would be a genetic test. some people have issues processing fats and cholesterol, does he have high cholesterol or anything? if so then yes it most likely is genetics. but then again other heart issues can be genetic too even without the high cholesterol issues.so hard to tell.

AnnPT77

elsie6hickman wrote: »

I will say this - I do not readily accept every "new" idea that comes around. I look at the study, who is was conducted by, who paid for the research, how many people, for how long and what age. My cardiologist told me in May to limit saturated fats and avoid transfats (which I do). Now it could be that he is just getting a kick back from the drug companies, but I don't think so, since my GP says it too. I don't have heart disease, but my father had a triple bypass when he was 70, so perhaps he is thinking genetics. But with the way my father eats, and has always eaten, it's enough proof to me that saturated fats are just not good for you. But that is just my observation.

"The" study? Unless it's a well-structured meta-analysis, we should be looking at the weight of the evidence over many studies.

Certainly, follow your doctor's advice - s/he knows your medical history - vs. any single study that may or may not be relevant to your personal circumstances.