All Disease Begins In The Gut !
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Thank mate who ever wood me. this is my life How would you like all this happening in your free to use health service.
BTW we all contribute from our earnings in the form of National Insurance, so those of us who are able pay for those who are unable.11 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Besides all the other nonsense....
Am I the only one who feels that adults should not use the word "tummy" when speaking to other adults?
Anyone older than 5 should not be using that word. It's called your stomach.
Why shouldn't adults use "tummy"? It's a cute word. I heard it comes from "tumescence', but I haven't looked up its etymology.
I just looked up the etymology for you...Websters says it's "baby-talk alteration of stomach".
And that's why I hate it...I'm an adult who doesn't like baby-talk. But, I'm also a curmudgeon who hates everything cute, so there ya go.
I hate when adults say tummy and I hate when mothers refer to themselves as "Mommy" makes me cringe
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An interesting read related to gut microbiome: https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/autism-could-be-linked-to-mothers-gut-microbiome/
Back to the original topic: We really don't know everything there is to know about how things we eat can affect us in the long term, so to dismiss things out of hand may be shortsighted.
Also, I wish people would treat others with differing opinions with a bit more civility and respect. That doesn't seem to be asking for too much among adults, does it?
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An interesting read related to gut microbiome: https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/autism-could-be-linked-to-mothers-gut-microbiome/
Back to the original topic: We really don't know everything there is to know about how things we eat can affect us in the long term, so to dismiss things out of hand may be shortsighted.
Also, I wish people would treat others with differing opinions with a bit more civility and respect. That doesn't seem to be asking for too much among adults, does it?
Nobody was disrespectful of the OP. What he had to say, on the other hand, is open to derision because most of it has already been debunked or, at best, is unsupported by science. None of it is new to people on these boards.10 -
Millicent3015 wrote: »
With the advent of atomic energy and the dropping of atomic bombs, every inch of soil on the planet now contains low levels of radiation.
There has always been radiation in the soil, it isn't a recent thing nor anything to do with atomic bombs. Most radiation in the soil is from naturally occuring processes or from space. A very, very, very small amount is from anything human made. Unless you're talking about somewhere like Chernobyl or Fukishima.5 -
What is NHS?0
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One needs to choose your scientist with care. Remember how a British Scientist declared sugar, too much of it was bad for us way back in the 1960's-70's and was rubbished for many years and still is by those in the thrawl of big food business.
Reports recently of Japanese scientists who tested a good number of people, a number of times and discovered the subjects did better being tested, on days when the air quality was better when they were sitting the tests. I hope anyone interested will have enough information there to find their own links. I don't bother with links. I have pointed people in the past to my information points. Anyone who may be interested will make their own enquiries. I consider I'm incredibly fortunate to live in a country which has a media, who if you listen and read properly rather than gobble up the sound bits which can bee misleading, who are obliged to provide good scientific information. I'm more than disillusioned by our NHS but to have key information signposted for us is a real boon.
To the person who kindly asked, what is the NHS. The NHS is the British Health Service which is paid for by National Insurance, an additional tax to cover social costs, by the working population. The NHS is celebrating its 70th year of existence providing free health provision for those who need it without charges at the time, generally taken to be life long residents of the UK. So someone can be down on their uppers and still have healthcare. We should look after each other, its the humane thing to do.
Its just regrettable many of the systems which were put in place all those years ago have not changed to deal with the health complaints which ail many of us these days. Its a great relief we no longer have as many incidents/accidents in the work place as we once did thought regrettably people are still becoming ill because of contact with asbestos. I can't remember when it was removed from our vehicle brake linings.5 -
Also, I wish people would treat others with differing opinions with a bit more civility and respect. That doesn't seem to be asking for too much among adults, does it?
Nobody was disrespectful of the OP. What he had to say, on the other hand, is open to derision because most of it has already been debunked or, at best, is unsupported by science. None of it is new to people on these boards.[/quote]
You have contradicted yourself. Derision IS disrespectful. I am not going to argue with you, but some on this forum come across as arrogant, self-appointed "experts".
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To the person who kindly asked, what is the NHS. The NHS is the British Health Service which is paid for by National Insurance, an additional tax to cover social costs, by the working population. The NHS is celebrating its 70th year of existence providing free health provision for those who need it without charges at the time, generally taken to be life long residents of the UK. So someone can be down on their uppers and still have healthcare. We should look after each other, its the humane thing to do.
No wonder I've never heard of it, I'm in the US, thank you.3 -
Also, I wish people would treat others with differing opinions with a bit more civility and respect. That doesn't seem to be asking for too much among adults, does it?
Nobody was disrespectful of the OP. What he had to say, on the other hand, is open to derision because most of it has already been debunked or, at best, is unsupported by science. None of it is new to people on these boards.
You have contradicted yourself. Derision IS disrespectful. I am not going to argue with you, but some on this forum come across as arrogant, self-appointed "experts".
No, I did not contradict myself. I specifically said the OP was not disrespected, the "information" was. Huge difference.13 -
I couldn't resist clicking on this thread for the possibility of seeing some entertaining woo....
I have to say, it DID NOT dissapoint!12 -
IMO, the OP is a good example of how alt-health sources sometimes take emerging provocative but non-definitive research results, and run with them far beyond what's reasonable. Occasionally, IME over 50+ years, they turn out to have been kind of right, but their batting average is very low, and the alt-health recommendations have typically included at least an equal measure of things that turn out to be a very bad idea indeed, once solid research findings are pinned down. (No, I don't have cites for this general set of beliefs. It's pure experiential inference.)
In particular, in this OP, I think there are at least a couple of things in this category:
1. There's lots of interesting research going on with the gut microbiome. It's very preliminary and non-definitive. One aspect includes some hints that there's some connection between the gut microbiome and the immune system, as well as a role (positive or negative) for gut microbiota in certain disease states.
I haven't seen anything definitive about exactly what a healthy gut microbiome is, or how to get one, beyond the generality that the things we usually think of as a healthy diet (fiber, plenty of fruits/veggies, etc.) tend to correlate with gut microbiome diversity (diversity doesn't necessarily equal quality, BTW).
I'm not a medical researcher, but here's a survey from a fairly mainstream source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4290017/
2. There's decent evidence that regular exercise helps reduce risks of certain types of cancer, independent of body weight factors. IMU, this is correlation-type evidence, not causative. This is an area I've tended to follow, because exercise also seems to reduce risk of breast cancer metastases, non-local metastatic breast cancer is most often terminal (eventually), and I'm an 18-year survivor of stage III breast cancer with local metastases. Yes, I'm active, because I like to play good odds, and alive is a great start on the rest of my day.
For example, the American Cancer Society (an example of hidebound mainstream medical advice if there ever was one) says "Did you know that healthy eating and engaging in physical activity can lower your cancer risk? In fact, after quitting smoking, improving your diet and exercise habits are some of the most important things you can do to stay healthy." ( For more, https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/diet-exercise-and-your-cancer-risk.html).
So, personally, I think the OP is mostly inaccurate, but some of the very dismissive replies may be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. (I agree that the OP has lots of bathwater. )
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Besides all the other nonsense....
Am I the only one who feels that adults should not use the word "tummy" when speaking to other adults?
Anyone older than 5 should not be using that word. It's called your stomach.
Why shouldn't adults use "tummy"? It's a cute word. I heard it comes from "tumescence', but I haven't looked up its etymology.
I just looked up the etymology for you...Websters says it's "baby-talk alteration of stomach".
And that's why I hate it...I'm an adult who doesn't like baby-talk. But, I'm also a curmudgeon who hates everything cute, so there ya go.
Hence, your name SusySunshine.
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You have contradicted yourself. Derision IS disrespectful. I am not going to argue with you, but some on this forum come across as arrogant, self-appointed "experts".
You contradicted yourself because you are arguing. As far as experts go the only one who claims to give talks and teach classes is the OP.
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But not the OP, of course.
Oh wait.......
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Something makes me think OP may be somewhat new to applied "nutropath", or perhaps recovering from a backslide.
(MFP search function can be insight-provoking.)
Either way, I wish him well - sincerely!
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