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MDL1418
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Hi all. I am new here and will probably be asking questions many have posted before me. I am 42 and am struggling. I recently started strength training 3 days a week doing about 9 excercises at 12 reps/3 sets each workout and about 10-30 minutes of cardio those days. On the alternate days I try to do about 30 minutes of cardio. I also started increasing my calories last week as I have learned through this app that I wasn’t really eating the calories I should be based on MFP. I have noticed my energy already has improved but I am concerned because I got on the scale and notice a 2 pound increase since I have started increasing my calories. I am 5’5”, 211 pounds, and my goal is to be about (at least) 180. I am a large frame, athletic build - any suggestions on whether or not this is normal? MFP is (on average) saying I should eat about 2300 calories a day. I’ve read a lot of different information but all I know is what I was doing isn’t working as I have not lost 1 pound in the past year. Any feedback would be appreciated and helpful. Thank you.
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i would suggest you follow an actual programme:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
and stick with your calorie goal for 4-6 weeks before you decide whether its working or not.1 -
Thank you - I will certainly look into that. I appreciate it. It can take some time I guess to see those changes with the calorie climb.0
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I will tell you I eat very healthy- I do- I’m not just saying that. I was eating (example) 2 eggs for breakfast with a cucumber, an arugula salad with chicken or beef, a few mushrooms and purple onion for lunch, and dinner would be a lean protein a veggie (or two) and maybe some wild rice (rare) and that is it. I was exhausted. And everyday was about the same. I have not began weighing my food yet. I am going to purchase a food scale to get a better measurement - I have changed my diet in the past two years so much that I can’t eat bad foods anymore, they make me sick. I even by all of my meats from a farmer and have them delivered. Certified organic* I have struggled with losing weight now for years. I am not really gaining, just cannot budge downward. I am at a lost. So, I joined here. I can feel (energy wise) now that I was not eating enough.1
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Oh and I’m sorry I listed my foods that way, it wasn’t until I joined here that I e really been “counting” my caloric intake0
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I will tell you I eat very healthy- I do- I’m not just saying that. I was eating (example) 2 eggs for breakfast with a cucumber, an arugula salad with chicken or beef, a few mushrooms and purple onion for lunch, and dinner would be a lean protein a veggie (or two) and maybe some wild rice (rare) and that is it. I was exhausted. And everyday was about the same. I have not began weighing my food yet. I am going to purchase a food scale to get a better measurement - I have changed my diet in the past two years so much that I can’t eat bad foods anymore, they make me sick. I even by all of my meats from a farmer and have them delivered. Certified organic* I have struggled with losing weight now for years. I am not really gaining, just cannot budge downward. I am at a lost. So, I joined here. I can feel (energy wise) now that I was not eating enough.
you don't cook with any oil or use any salad dressing?
if you aren't losing weight, its because you're eating too many calories - doesn't matter if they are healthy or not.5 -
I understand what you’re saying. But I was tired all of the time, and so hungry by the time I got home. I am just confused by the calorie thing. I know for fact I was not eating what I am now based on the recommendations MFP has given me. (2300 calories) because I am having a hard time eating that much.
As far as salad dressing, it is sugar free, oil and vinegar.1 -
And no, I don’t use cooking oil with meal prep1
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If you're increasing calories eaten, you should be expecting weight gain. Have you set up MFP for weightloss, gain or mantenance?0
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I set up MFP for weight loss and apparently it says I should be eating 2300 calories a day. And the thing is I felt so tired and lethargic before and when I increased my caloric intake I did from a tired standpoint begin to feel much better. A lot of what I’ve read about this says I wasn’t eating enough calories. I understand what you’re saying, that’s what I knew to be true. However, I am understanding what the others are saying also about if you’re not eating enough calories it can cause you to stall in loss too.1
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What rate of loss did you pick? And what activity level? Remember that MFP is keeping exercise out of this calculation; you're supposed to log and eat back exercise calories.0
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Help me here if I don’t give you the answer you’re looking for. But I choose 0.5 pounds per week. And moderate activity level. Maybe that’s the problem because I do exercise everyday? (One day off)1
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A couple of observations and questions.
Are you eating back some portion of your exercise calories?
Are you a beginner to strength training and are you following a proven program? I ask this because 9 exercises of 3 x12 is a lot of volume and may not best support your goals. It can be ver fatiguing. A full body program like Starting Strength or SL 5x5 might be better.
Why so much cardio and cardio on the days you lift? No wonder you are having fatigue. A suggestion is to strength train on those days and cardio on alternate days.
What is your protein intake like?
Based on your workout volume, it is not surprising that you are having some fatigue. You can't out exercise a bad diet and your body needs recovery time. 3 days strength, 3 days cardio and 1 full rest day would be a good set up for fitness and maintaining muscle mass. It's diet management and calorie control that will cause the weight loss.5 -
The alternatives are Sedentary - Lightly Active -Active - Very Active, and each increment adds 200 or 300 calories. This is your assessment of your daily - normal, work and living - activity level, not counting planned/designated exercise.
At your weight, you can pick 2 pounds per week. (Just reduce it after you're lost some weight, so that you never exceed 1% of your bodyweight per week.)0 -
You said MFP is (on average) saying I should eat about 2300 calories a day - does this mean have you tried many different settings? Could you have accidentally picked male instead of female (males get more calories for same height, weight, activity level and age)?0
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Help me here if I don’t give you the answer you’re looking for. But I choose 0.5 pounds per week. And moderate activity level. Maybe that’s the problem because I do exercise everyday? (One day off)
Moderate activity level would mean you have a fairly active job and lifestyle before exercise. .5 lbs per week is pretty conservative and would require your weighing and measuring to be dead on. A larger deficit would give you more margin for error. As stated above, you could go as high as 2lb but that might be hard to maintain. 1.5 or 1 lb per week would be reasonable.2 -
I want to first say, thank you for your response. I am new to all of this EXCEPT diet (choices). I am new to calorie counting and strength training. I have seen nutritionists that help me get the diet piece corrected. I have been eating healthy for about two years now. I was able to lose (just through dietary changes) 15 lbs. Nothing has moved since. Not one pound for a year.
So, without boring you with my diet, let me assure you I have that under control. Tons of veggies, lean/healthy protein, organic - to the point I purchase my meats from a farmer directly. I really do have the food part down. Trust me. This past weekend I was a little off, but still under my calories suggested but only because I was on a vacation. Even then most of what was bad about my diet over the weekend was saturday I had a few drinks. That being said, I chose very active. Let me also clarify what I meant about fatigue. Before I started MyFitnessPal, I was very fatigued. Though I was eating the right foods, I don't think I was eating enough. And to your point, that plus the fact that I do excercise like I do, I was extremely tired. Now that I have increased my calories (only a week) I am beginning to feel more energy. I am not trying to excercise out of a bad diet, I am just trying to tone/build some muscle. My diet consists of a good amount of protein, I wish I could be specific, but I am JUST begining to monitor/track that. I have been doing strength 3 days a week now for about a month. I only did the cardio on these days to warm up, "get things going" so to speak. I will check out what you suggested about the strength training. I will also see what 2 pounds a week looks like. I just want to find out why I am not moving at all. (either way) except today I see a 2 lb increase
from what my weight was on Thursday of last week.
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Your weight fluctuates up to a couple of pounds from day to day, so you need several weeks to see a trend.
If you're overweight, you're definitely not eating healthily.5 -
I want to first say, thank you for your response. I am new to all of this EXCEPT diet (choices). I am new to calorie counting and strength training. I have seen nutritionists that help me get the diet piece corrected. I have been eating healthy for about two years now. I was able to lose (just through dietary changes) 15 lbs. Nothing has moved since. Not one pound for a year.
So, without boring you with my diet, let me assure you I have that under control. Tons of veggies, lean/healthy protein, organic - to the point I purchase my meats from a farmer directly. I really do have the food part down. Trust me. This past weekend I was a little off, but still under my calories suggested but only because I was on a vacation. Even then most of what was bad about my diet over the weekend was saturday I had a few drinks. That being said, I chose very active. Let me also clarify what I meant about fatigue. Before I started MyFitnessPal, I was very fatigued. Though I was eating the right foods, I don't think I was eating enough. And to your point, that plus the fact that I do excercise like I do, I was extremely tired. Now that I have increased my calories (only a week) I am beginning to feel more energy. I am not trying to excercise out of a bad diet, I am just trying to tone/build some muscle. My diet consists of a good amount of protein, I wish I could be specific, but I am JUST begining to monitor/track that. I have been doing strength 3 days a week now for about a month. I only did the cardio on these days to warm up, "get things going" so to speak. I will check out what you suggested about the strength training. I will also see what 2 pounds a week looks like. I just want to find out why I am not moving at all. (either way) except today I see a 2 lb increase
from what my weight was on Thursday of last week.
The problem is, WHAT you eat doesn't determine what your weight does, it's HOW MUCH. If you aren't measuring portions accurately (or if you are choosing dodgy entries in the database that are giving you the wrong calories) you could eat the healthiest food possible and still not lose weight.
Since you just started logging, I would just focus on logging all that healthy food accurately and consistently for a few weeks and see what shakes out. Then if your results are still not right, you could make your diary temporarily public and a fresh set of eyes might be able to catch any further logging issues. Check out this thread too if you'd like:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
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Kimny72, I appreciate your response. That makes sense. I just need to get a grasp on all of it. I will take your advice and do just that. Kommo- here is the thing. I am not an idiot. I am not overweight because of my food intake. It is a matter of me adjusting my calories/exercise. I had a hysterectomy over 10 years ago and things have been out of whack for me since then. Unless you have been through something similar and have followed me for the past 10 years, I would caution accusing someone of not eating or living a healthy lifestyle. I do not eat junk food nor do I sit on my butt and not move. I am exceedingly cautious of what I eat. Now, another factor for me are hormones which are difficult to balance once you are thrown into surgical menopause at age 30. This has been the biggest contributing factor for me. And I do appreciate your responses, but do not appreciate you making assumptions on something you only know a small piece about. I am also not afraid to admit if I screw up - no matter what it is. Therefore, if I was eating poorly and choosing to be in the situation I am in, I would have no problem admitting to it. If you are here to support people, please, be a little considerate. I have never been one to struggle with this and have spent many hours researching, seeking professional help, including dieticians and nutritionists, HRT specialists. The concerns I have are those I take very seriously and do not intend on stopping until I have reached my desired outcome. I sought this site for support and it is not to learn how to stop eating ice cream and little debbies, ok?4
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