Question; only for serious people. No judging.

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  • 77TiffanyIrene77
    77TiffanyIrene77 Posts: 16 Member
    Thank you.
  • Cait_Sidhe
    Cait_Sidhe Posts: 3,150 Member
    So much for not judging people. LOL way to go MFP.
    There's always at least one in every thread.
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    Never model yourself after someone with an ED.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    Think about this for a minute, are the habits of a girl who needed an intervention because of an eating disorder the habits that you want to copy? That doesn't sound like a good idea.
    My reaction, exactly.
    Choose a better role model.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    So much for not judging people. LOL way to go MFP.
    There's always at least one in every thread.
    Agreed^ and considering the very concept of this thread which by the way breaks the guidelines set by mfp the answers were relatively polite and well thought out.OP this kind of behavior is neither healthy nor productive.
  • Fozzi43
    Fozzi43 Posts: 2,984 Member
    I'm going to judge.

    I'm going to tell you not to be silly. You will start (if you haven't already) a bad relationship with food. Yes, you may temporarily lose weight, then when you stop losing weight, you'll need to cut out more food etc etc. then you will be on that ole slippery slope of a love/ hate relationship with food and you will be unhappy. Your periods will stop. You will feel ill due to malnutrition. Your hair will fall out. You will feel weak. You will always be fretting if having to eat in public.

    Does it still sound like a good idea?
  • nichi123
    nichi123 Posts: 244
    That is an extremely bad idea unless you are working on having an eating disorder. Plan your calories for the day so you can have a little treat, completely chewed and swallowed. Losing weight isn't about depriving yourself of everything, it's about learning to eat in a sensible way that you can live with the rest of your life.
    Couldn't have put it better myself.
  • adorable_aly
    adorable_aly Posts: 398 Member
    if you're not planning to swallow then don't put it in your mouth.

    *s******s* sorry i couldn't help it...
  • adorable_aly
    adorable_aly Posts: 398 Member

    They WILL ask you for a piece (its scientifically proven fact).

    No, there is no such thing as a scientifically proven fact.
  • slim4health56
    slim4health56 Posts: 439 Member
    But why would you want to?

    Don't eat "diet" food! Eat what you want in moderation (this will greatly reduce your cravings).
    The more sugar you eat, the more you will likely crave. If all you need is a taste of something sweet, try a sugar-free mint or a lifesaver. Enjoy it...don't spit it out.

    There's a reason Intervention spotlighted anorexia and all the ugliness that goes with it....what do you think that reason is?

    P.S. I'm not judging - I'm suggesting you rethink this.
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    I like that show.
    can we start drinking yet?
  • slim4health56
    slim4health56 Posts: 439 Member
    Sharing will make the friends happy and it will make them like u more. u will lose weight over time by sharing method. and everyone will be happier in the long run. =)

    GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY CHOCOLATE BEFORE SOMEONE DIES!:wink:
  • mcibty
    mcibty Posts: 1,252 Member
    OK I'm going to read through the responses in a second, but I couldn't not reply.

    Firstly, sorry... You 'saw', you didn't 'seen'.

    Secondly, this really is the wrong site if you're asking these questions. It's not healthy (which I suspect you already know), and the clue is in the title of the show, sweetheart. If it was a good idea, the show would be called Thinspirations. Please don't ask these kinds of things on a website designed for healthy eating and fitness. That's not what we do round here.
  • BonnieandClyde29
    BonnieandClyde29 Posts: 1,026 Member
    I just had a baby ruth, if you can fit it into your daily goals or weekly goals then go for it. Don't completely deprive yourself or have like a hershey kiss with an almond. Just know that you are going to stop. If you feel you can't take the temptation eat it around friends, family members, boyfriend, girlfriend whoever. My husband love love loves sweets, so i usually will eat half of something and give him the rest or throw it away so i'm not tempted! dont chew and spit though please :D
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    You cannot ****ing ask for people not to judge you or ot to tell you what you're doing isnt okay because it,s not. Asking for advices on your eating disorder here is disgusting. This pisses me off so much. I'm a recovering bulimic trying to get healthy and I came on here because it was focused on HEALTH. Promoting eating disorders is wrong and all you people giving her advices on how to lose weight with this diet should be ashamed..

    I don't think anyone, including the OP, was promoting an eating disorder. I do think OP knew this wasn't the greatest idea and needed a little extra kick to not go down that road and that's why she posted. That is about health. She didn't post about how wildly spectacular this new diet idea of her's is.

    I understand why it was a hard post for you to read though given your own struggles.
  • slim4health56
    slim4health56 Posts: 439 Member
    OK I'm going to read through the responses in a second, but I couldn't not reply.

    Firstly, sorry... You 'saw', you didn't 'seen'.

    Secondly, this really is the wrong site if you're asking these questions. It's not healthy (which I suspect you already know), and the clue is in the title of the show, sweetheart. If it was a good idea, the show would be called Thinspirations. Please don't ask these kinds of things on a website designed for healthy eating and fitness. That's not what we do round here.

    While I'm sorry she felt the need to ask the question, I'm not sorry she asked. Perhaps, just perhaps, she'll read the feedback and get some help instead of hiding this behavior. I do, however, find it a wee bit odd that you corrected her grammar...I thought this website was "designed for healthy eating and fitness." Just a thought.:flowerforyou:
  • CloudyMao
    CloudyMao Posts: 258 Member
    It's been mentioned before but I seriously want to echo this. Do not practice disordered behaviour - it is dangerous and can lead to a learned obsession. I'm going to link my blog: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/CloudyMao as the only entry there does deal with my experience of these behaviours - and for context I have chew+spat before, frequently, and still have problems with that.

    If you have very bad cravings, eat a small amount of something (moderated, not restricted) that you're craving for. If you're worried abou disordered eating please see a doctor for advise. Just a word of warning - that blog link is highly triggering. But then this whole thread is really %£^^&$%&ing triggering anyway!
  • CloudyMao
    CloudyMao Posts: 258 Member
    I don't think that there are any calories in chewing something but not swallowing it. A lot of creamy and sugary things probably dissolve on the tongue, but it's not enough to care about.

    Although chewing and spitting is associated with eating disorders, I think it's pretty tame. There's no stomach acid destroying the lining of the esophagus or dissolving the enamel of the teeth as with bulimics. As a habit it's unpleasant.

    But if you spit something out to interrupt a binge, I think it's fine. I've been known to dive into a piece of cake and then come to my senses after the second or third bite, and spit the last bite out before tossing. My thought process is "this doesn't taste as good as I thought, so why waste the calories?" If it's really good though, then I'll eat the slice. The act of spitting out the last bite (not the whole thing) grosses me out a little, which reduces the craving. I have prevented some mistakes this way. If you don't have the calories to waste and put something random in your mouth just to spit it out, that sounds kind of unpleasant and restrictive. Better to eat a couple bites of it and save the rest for later. Or don't eat it in the first place.

    My best advice is this: don't feel pressure to eat if you don't want to. When losing weight one has to get used to wasting food. If I put too much food on my plate at a buffet, or a relative forces a heaping desert at the table, something is going in the trash or in a rubber maid. But you don't want to be too restrictive either. Eat whatever you want once every few days as long as it doesn't blow your calories.



    While I seriously understand your post, and the context of it. I just want to point out that there's nothing tame about any disordered behaviour when it comes to food. A lot of us have been at this cliff point, some of us have woke ourselves up and snapped out of it, but some of us fell down that cliff and it's a ****ing nightmare to climb up. The little 'tame' behaviours can be the start or symtomn of something serious.

    ___

    I don't mean to be a bummer chaps, all my love x
  • mcibty
    mcibty Posts: 1,252 Member
    [/quote]

    While I'm sorry she felt the need to ask the question, I'm not sorry she asked. Perhaps, just perhaps, she'll read the feedback and get some help instead of hiding this behavior. I do, however, find it a wee bit odd that you corrected her grammar...I thought this website was "designed for healthy eating and fitness." Just a thought.:flowerforyou:
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    Judging the people who judge. Should've expected that. I highly doubt that by asking that question in the manner it was asked, that she expected a positive reaction. No one is that naive. No one thinks that behaviour is healthy. It's nigh on a troll post.

    As for the grammar lesson; well that's just for free.
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  • Achaila
    Achaila Posts: 264 Member
    I just have to say this thread is really, really triggering. Oi...
  • Alwayssohungry
    Alwayssohungry Posts: 369 Member
    OP - I am a constant nibbler which has been a large hurdle for me since I can nibble hundreds of calories a day and get no benefit/enjoyment from them. In my efforts to stop nibbling I have spit out many a nibbling mouthful as a stupid punishment for myself to make me stop it. I think I did it maybe 5 - 6 times. It did not help any cravings at all. I just heard that nagging voice in my head screaming spit that out you idiot.
  • Achaila
    Achaila Posts: 264 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.
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  • Achaila
    Achaila Posts: 264 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.

    If her post is going to trigger you then maybe you need to make a phone call because it makes no sense that someone you have never met or know nothing about can have such a deep impact on your mind and actions. Her post does not need to be deleted but maybe you just need to not read this thread anymore.

    Maybe you should brush up on eating disorders before you tell me how I should and shouldn't deal with a mental illness I've had for 11 years. If you knew anything at all about ED's you would know the dumbest, littlest things can be triggering. A comment, a picture, a stupid post on a forum that is supposed to be for people seeking to be healthy. Whether I know the person or not is completely irrelevant, but once again, if you knew anything what so ever about eating disorders, you would know this.
  • scottaworley
    scottaworley Posts: 871 Member
    A few years ago I was watching a show; Intervention, and it was about eating disorders.

    Now; I would rather drink any day than eat. Rather it's water, juice, milk anything... I would rather drink than eat. Well I'm finally off soda and onto water and 0 to low calorie drinks.

    My issue is;
    I sometime's get this horrid craving for something salty and/or crunchy. Or even just something sweet that I know I shouldn't eat. Well on Intervention I seen a girl who was anorexic and she would chew it and then spit it out into a cup... Just for the taste, to help with the craving so she wasn't getting all the calories.

    My question is wouldn't she still be getting the calories?
    If not, if I'm maintaining my calories under what my DV should be, is it bad to use the Chew & Spit method to get rid of the cravings?

    Please honest answers. No judging...

    First: This has been covered, but that is an extremely dangerous idea. I do no recommend.
    Second: Also been covered, but you're allowed to eat some treats! Losing weight isn't about eating only salads and chicken breast.
    Third: Not sure if this has been covered, but when you're losing weight you're eating at a deficit. That means you can go over your goal by 100 or so calories every once in awhile and you don't need to sweat it!
    Good luck on your weight loss!
  • red0801
    red0801 Posts: 283 Member
    My issue is;
    I sometime's get this horrid craving for something salty and/or crunchy.

    Have you ever considered juicing fruits & vegetables?

    Normally cravings are your body's way of letting you know there is a nutrient deficiency. Since I started juicing about 6 months ago, I don't struggle through nearly as many cravings for unhealthy junk.
  • scottaworley
    scottaworley Posts: 871 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.

    If her post is going to trigger you then maybe you need to make a phone call because it makes no sense that someone you have never met or know nothing about can have such a deep impact on your mind and actions. Her post does not need to be deleted but maybe you just need to not read this thread anymore.

    Maybe you should brush up on eating disorders before you tell me how I should and shouldn't deal with a mental illness I've had for 11 years. If you knew anything at all about ED's you would know the dumbest, littlest things can be triggering. A comment, a picture, a stupid post on a forum that is supposed to be for people seeking to be healthy. Whether I know the person or not is completely irrelevant, but once again, if you knew anything what so ever about eating disorders, you would know this.

    Not to be rude, but maybe you should consider staying away from the forums here? I see this kind of thread fairly regularly, and I'm sure you do too. It might be a good idea to talk some things through with a professional before potentially exposing yourself to these kinds of triggers.
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  • astrovivi
    astrovivi Posts: 183 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.


    Speaking as someone who fully recovered from a severe eating disorder, all I can say to you is "GET OFF THE FORUMS".
    if you are recovering and concerned about triggers for relapse, you should not be on here at all.

    Do yourself a favour (and I mean this in the NICEST possible way for your own good) and GO AWAY from here.

    The OP is not responsible for you being triggered or your reaction. you have the responsibility to stay away from topics that reference EDs.