Fun size M&Ms not so fun when I go to log

PAV8888

tbright1965 wrote: »

Sharing what works for me is not counsel. Sharing an estimation methodology is not counsel.

Unreservedly withdraw the characterization of counsel. By it's nature this is a web site forum where each of us spews personal opinions and experiences and is not offering counsel so... totally wrong word choice!

I still think that if you strove to be accurate (period) you would be better off than striving to be inaccurate in the hope of staving off a potential error.

In all cases, all of us, should review our progress and what we're doing after 4-6 weeks and see whether what we think we are doing is what we're actually doing... and adjust goals to compensate.

At 215 and a 500 to 750 deficit you are doing fine. You've been sounding (to me) as if you're on a 1000 to 1500 deficit. That would be less fine.

jhilkene

Found this thread fitting for me today since I had a fun size PB snickers. Glad I was doing T25 to burn it off.. lol!

.. Oh and I use estimation as well with calorie and excersize inputs.
It works for me.

tbright1965

PAV8888 wrote: »

tbright1965 wrote: »

Sharing what works for me is not counsel. Sharing an estimation methodology is not counsel.

Unreservedly withdraw the characterization of counsel. By it's nature this is a web site forum where each of us spews personal opinions and experiences and is not offering counsel so... totally wrong word choice!

I still think that if you strove to be accurate (period) you would be better off than striving to be inaccurate in the hope of staving off a potential error.

In all cases, all of us, should review our progress and what we're doing after 4-6 weeks and see whether what we think we are doing is what we're actually doing... and adjust goals to compensate.

At 215 and a 500 to 750 deficit you are doing fine. You've been sounding (to me) as if you're on a 1000 to 1500 deficit. That would be less fine.

I only have that large a deficit on days where I've ridden my bike 50 miles. Doesn't happen often enough to worry about.

missysippy930

About 139 calories in 1 ounce of plain milk chocolate M&M's, and thats about 28 m&m's

CarvedTones

PAV8888 wrote: »

tbright1965 wrote: »

deannalfisher wrote: »

no i didn't misunderstand your point - i pointed out that you are factually incorrect - there is a difference

another non-fruit example - the bagel i ate the other day - was approx 95g

but it wasn't 95g of carbs/fat/protein - it was 47g carbs/5g fat/12g protein (which totals 64g)

What was factually incorrect about the candy and the estimate I provided.

I said the calorie count would be in the range of values presented, or at least close enough for most purposes.

I'm not looking for mass spectrometer accuracy. I'm trying to create a calorie deficit to lose weight and to limit carbs in order to keep my Blood Glucose below 100 mg/dL.

This approach works. If I round up certain items, I will reach those goals. If my 9g bit of candy is really only 6g of carbs and 3g of non-caloric stuff such as water, will my estimate of 36 calories really throw off my 2025 calorie day if the candy is really only 24 calories?

Nope.

The fact I stated was this was MY method of estimating and leaving margin in case I miss something and/or to stay away from the limits.

Using my "incorrect" method, I've lost 50# and my A1C has gone from 7.3 to 5.1 since 14 Feb this year.

So while it may not be accurate enough for you, and I'm all about you doing you. Nothing I said was inaccurate. I said it was CLOSE enough to meet my goals.

I never claimed it would give you lab accuracy. What I claimed was you would not UNDERESTIMATE what you had to eat using my described method if you had to estimate and had NO data.

Which is 100% true.

It can be both 100% true, inaccurate for your purposes, and works for my goals and not fit yours.

If it's useful, use it. If not, just let it go.

But don't call it factually incorrect when what I stated was a correct description of my method of estimation, that described the limits of the method. I clearly stated it may overestimate what you've consumed, but what you eat will never be MORE calories than the range described.

Which is true.

You are deliberately and massively aiming to err on the side of overestimating Calories eaten and, based on other threads, deliberately aiming to err on the side of underestimating Calories expended.

You believe that this is working well for you.

There are many people, myself included, who think that this aggressive strategy very seldom ends up in a better place than a more moderate strategy of correctly estimating inputs and expenditures while engaged in moderate deficits.

Trying to correctly estimate will lead to estimation errors; but, absent a deliberate bias, the errors will tend to cancel one another.

Deliberate errors to be more aggressive with their deficit can lead to their own set of very real problems for other people who you councel to adopt your methods.

This strategy is causing me to not be too concerned about going over, which is not a good thing. I have been setting my goal low because I want to trend down a little further to just below the mid point in my maintenance range. That, compounded with potentially overestimating food and underestimating burn makes me feel like I can go ahead and go over a ways and make today be about even. The problem is hat I don't know what my actual deficit for the day is when I hit goal.

tbright1965

tbright1965 wrote: »

I really doubt I'm starving when I eat between 2000 and 2500 calories/day at 215# of body weight.

But I am staying at a deficit as I'm likely burning between 2400 and 3000 on those very same days.

It's almost 4pm where I am, and my Fitbit estimates I've burned just under 1600 calories today. (Haven't worked out yet.)

Which goes right along with the calculators for someone fitting my profile, a sedentary TDEE of just under 100 calories/hour at 2340/day.

So on most days, I'm staying around that 500-750 calorie deficit depending on how much exercise I get.

Just an update, 4 hours later and the ole Fitbit says about 2750 calories burned. I did 55 minutes of spin class tonight. Workout would have been longer, but I had a phone call come in and something from work to handle that took away my warmup and the first 5 minutes of class.

The estimated calorie burn for the class was 630 calories. Which seems to go along with how much I'd be burning at my sedentary rate plus exercise calories...

I don't totally trust the Fitbit to estimate it, so I don't try to eat back all my exercise calories. So if I have a 400-500 calorie deficit in my base food allotment and give myself half of the exercise calories back in protein and fat as I still have to watch my carb intake for T2D concerns, I'm in that 500-750 calories/day deficit range.

FWIW.

TonyB0588

I consider ONE(1) Fun Size pack to be a serving. I wouldn't have taken two.

Danp

I love Fun Size sweets. They're one of my weight loss secrets as they're perfect for taming my sweet tooth while minimising the damage that would have been done with entire bags/bars.

I tend to treat them as my 'end of day calorie round up'. I'll pretty much always make sure have enough calories left over for one or two at night. On days that I've been particularly active or eaten unusually lightly so I have more wiggle room I'll maybe even have three or four.