Clean Eating?? Whose doing it?
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WinoGelato wrote: »The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
This is what I think is frustrating about the “clean eating” discussions. OP asked for help, when asked for clarification on her definition, she provided some examples. But how is “throw all the crap in the trash” helpful? What’s your definition of “crap”? I’m sure I have lots of things in my pantry that you would consider “crap” and I don’t appreciate the suggestion that the food I’ve purchased and am feeding my family is “crap”. Why does there always have to be moral judgement assigned to food?
So much this. ^^^ It's that holier-than-thou attitude that inevitably creeps into threads about 'clean' eating that tends to be moralistic, unrealistic and - most importantly - irrelevant to actual weight management.12 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
This is what I think is frustrating about the “clean eating” discussions. OP asked for help, when asked for clarification on her definition, she provided some examples. But how is “throw all the crap in the trash” helpful? What’s your definition of “crap”? I’m sure I have lots of things in my pantry that you would consider “crap” and I don’t appreciate the suggestion that the food I’ve purchased and am feeding my family is “crap”. Why does there always have to be moral judgement assigned to food?
So much this. ^^^ It's that holier-than-thou attitude that inevitably creeps into threads about 'clean' eating that tends to be moralistic, unrealistic and - most importantly - irrelevant to actual weight management.
Or for that matter, largely irrelevant to overall health. Does the fact that I have tortilla chips in my pantry mean that I don’t care about nutrition or that I’m going to be less healthy than someone who doesn’t purchase and eat, a single serving of tortilla chips, with a single serving of queso, while watching football once a week?
Because that’s what usually follows in these clean eating discussions, either explicitly or implicitly... “well sure calories are all that matter for weight loss but some of us care about nutrition or health as well”.
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The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
I don't keep crap in my kitchen!!
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WinoGelato wrote: »The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
This is what I think is frustrating about the “clean eating” discussions. OP asked for help, when asked for clarification on her definition, she provided some examples. But how is “throw all the crap in the trash” helpful? What’s your definition of “crap”? I’m sure I have lots of things in my pantry that you would consider “crap” and I don’t appreciate the suggestion that the food I’ve purchased and am feeding my family is “crap”. Why does there always have to be moral judgement assigned to food?
^^ This. “Crap” is too vague, definitely! To some, canned foods would fall under “crap” or “dirty”. Or pasta. It’s very confusing to say the least.
And, I’d rather give away or donate unopened items.
I do like how the OP stated exactly what they were after, though.5 -
I eat clean enough to hit my macros and "dirty" enough to retain my sanity and enjoy life. (Shamelessly stolen from @joemac1988)12
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The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
Wouldn't it be wise to find out if the person you are suggesting this to can afford to replace the food being thrown out? While it is possible to eat fresh ingredients on a tight budget if the money has already been spent on "the crap" does ruthlessness involve going hungry?
I don't care if a person tries to eat "clean" if they can do it while eating a healthy amount of calories and they find it sustainable. Eating "clean" however is not sustainable for everyone so you should view it as a privilege of where you live and your income situation.
I do, however, think it is a societal sin to throw out food that could be donated to a shelter/food bank. You are not doing people who are hungry any favors by denying them food you think is beneath your standards.
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"Clean" is a marketing tool. Here's a particularly egregious example:
What Panera means is that they've removed preservatives, artificial flavors and colors, and other additives. Good for them, I guess. This matches the least restrictive definitions of "clean", but doesn't most of the more restrictive definitions. For example, bread and cheese and pasta are surely "processed" food. Bread and pasta are certainly "white" foods. Most of Panera's food has more than 3, or 4, or 5 ingredients. It is definitely take-out food. Certainly this food can come in a wrapper, and Panera most assuredly has advertisements.
So if one is a "clean" eater, how does one know if any particular item is "clean"? How does one stay out of Humpty-Dumpty territory, where words mean only what you choose them to mean?
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I love Panera but *kitten* their marketing campaign sucks!4
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »I will rinse food that can be rinsed under water but I refuse to use soap.
Oh .... is that not what you mean by clean?
The OP gave her definition as like the second response in the thread. Have you had a chance to read through? It was a pretty simple definition. I would think anyone can understand it4 -
The easiest way to start to eat clean is to do two things : first, go through your kitchen and toss all the crap in the trash (and don't care what you paid for it, be ruthless), and 2) make sure when you shop that you are buying ingredients, not ready-to-eat.
I suppose that is the easiest way. I'm a gal on a budget, though, so throwing out food is a big no for me. I'd rather use it up quickly than throw it out, personally.2 -
"Clean" is a marketing tool. Here's a particularly egregious example:
What Panera means is that they've removed preservatives, artificial flavors and colors, and other additives. Good for them, I guess. This matches the least restrictive definitions of "clean", but doesn't most of the more restrictive definitions. For example, bread and cheese and pasta are surely "processed" food. Bread and pasta are certainly "white" foods. Most of Panera's food has more than 3, or 4, or 5 ingredients. It is definitely take-out food. Certainly this food can come in a wrapper, and Panera most assuredly has advertisements.
So if one is a "clean" eater, how does one know if any particular item is "clean"? How does one stay out of Humpty-Dumpty territory, where words mean only what you choose them to mean?
Not to mention that Panera still servesDiet Pepsi and offers sugar free flavorings for coffee drinks do not THAT committed to “clean”...2 -
Maybe they just strictly enforce employee hand-washing rules? #whoknows
Just goes to show that eating clean can mean whatever you want it to.2 -
Let ok at Restart. I have some on my Pinterest. I don’t know if there’s a little cal group near you but I’m sure a friend of mine could look into it.
No MLM just a way of eating.4 -
StillnakedInVegas wrote: »Let ok at Restart. I have some on my Pinterest. I don’t know if there’s a little cal group near you but I’m sure a friend of mine could look into it.
No MLM just a way of eating.
Hadn't heard of Restart, so I looked it up.
"An important difference is that RESTART® was created by a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner and is therefore based on in-depth training in holistic nutrition."
No. Just no.9 -
Interesting discussion, lots of good info!0
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WinoGelato wrote: »"Clean" is a marketing tool. Here's a particularly egregious example:
What Panera means is that they've removed preservatives, artificial flavors and colors, and other additives. Good for them, I guess. This matches the least restrictive definitions of "clean", but doesn't most of the more restrictive definitions. For example, bread and cheese and pasta are surely "processed" food. Bread and pasta are certainly "white" foods. Most of Panera's food has more than 3, or 4, or 5 ingredients. It is definitely take-out food. Certainly this food can come in a wrapper, and Panera most assuredly has advertisements.
So if one is a "clean" eater, how does one know if any particular item is "clean"? How does one stay out of Humpty-Dumpty territory, where words mean only what you choose them to mean?
Not to mention that Panera still servesDiet Pepsi and offers sugar free flavorings for coffee drinks do not THAT committed to “clean”...
The sign says their FOOD is clean...doesn't mention DRINKS...
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