Chicken

angelsja

I've got a whole chicken for Sunday roast and it says 201 calories per 100g excluding bone is this cooked or raw? Also I usually put the chicken juices in with the gravy granules how would I account for this?

angelsja

Anyone?

cmriverside

Go to the USDA database: https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list?home=true

Type "chicken roasted." You do have to make some decisions on this type thing, just find something close.

It's not a perfect world.

angelsja

It has the calories on the package just don't know if it's for cooked or raw and how to account for the juices

cmriverside

All gravies have a certain amount of fat. Look at the cup of juice before you use it and estimate the amount of oil or ladle it out into a separate measuring cup. The fat is where the calories are. Make a recipe.

For the chicken it's likely going to be raw, because that's for a certain weight in the package and when it's cooked it weighs less. I've never seen a packaged chicken list a cooked weight, unless it's already cooked.

earlnabby

angelsja wrote: »

It has the calories on the package just don't know if it's for cooked or raw and how to account for the juices

If it is sold raw, the calories will be for raw unless there is a disclaimer saying "prepared according to package directions".

As for the juices, they would be included in the raw calorie count. Just count anything you add like your flour or cornstarch to make the gravy (assuming you are making gravy with the juices). If your package says "prepared according to package directions" you will need to read the directions to see if they include the juices or not.

angelsja

so how would I log it cook it weigh it and use the calories on the package and not -the bone weight to allow for discrepancies or how would you do it?

73CL350

The weight for a serving/calorie calc is the weight raw.

I weigh my bones and subtract them from my inital serving size before i throw them out... It is a little conservative as a cooked bone weighs less than a raw one.. but i figure mostly because the marrow seeps into the juices which of course get eaten.

I'm not sure I understand what's to question here ? Anything you add to the gravy gets counted ... the juices are already counted in the raw weight of the chicken.

73CL350

This was last nights dinner ... the thigh was weighed raw .. .then the cooked bone was weighed before it went into the trash. The net weight between the two is what got put on mfp.

angelsja

I'm not going to eat the whole chicken though so I can't weigh my portion before eating as I won't be carving it till it's cooked. The juices will be split between 4 do how do I account for my portion of the juices?

cmriverside

I'm going to disagree that the juices are included in the chicken. The "juice" is also rendered fat. I would count fat re-added to a recipe as a separate item, per tablespoon.

But see, angelsja? This is what I was saying, it's not a perfect process. Every single day I cook my own food. I use my best guesses on stuff like this. Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm close enough. Even using my best sources and a digital food scale I make a couple hundred calories in errors daily and so does everyone else.

You're at a healthy weight, you tend to lean to the eating disorder side. I think this is a good place for you to start letting go of this rigid illusion you have of total control.

Log it, move on. If you're off by 100-200 calories, oh well.

cmriverside

If your recipe makes two cups of gravy, divide the batch by the portion you use - like 0.25 cup per portion.

angelsja

cmriverside wrote: »

I'm going to disagree that the juices are included in the chicken. The "juice" is also rendered fat. I would count fat re-added to a recipe as a separate item, per tablespoon.

But see, angelsja? This is what I was saying, it's not a perfect process. Every single day I cook my own food. I use my best guesses on stuff like this. Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm close enough. Even using my best sources and a digital food scale I make a couple hundred calories in errors daily and so does everyone else.

You're at a healthy weight, you tend to lean to the eating disorder side. I think this is a good place for you to start letting go of this rigid illusion you have of total control.

Log it, move on. If you're off by 100-200 calories, oh well.

No I'm not at a healthy weight I'm overweight... anyway I've found a roast chicken from Tesco that's baked using brown sugar so I'm going to go with that one to allow for any errors and not subtract bone weight

angelsja

Just had a thought I can just create a recipe for roast chicken from the value on the package then weigh it once cooked and say that's how many servings it makes them weigh my portion once carved and say that's how many servings I had

earlnabby

cmriverside wrote: »

I'm going to disagree that the juices are included in the chicken. The "juice" is also rendered fat. I would count fat re-added to a recipe as a separate item, per tablespoon.

The fat is rendered from the chicken and is included in the raw calorie calculation. It would not be included in a cooked chicken calculation.

73CL350

Weigh the whole chicken before and after you'll know the % loss. Interpolate your starting weight by dividing by the % loss of your served portion

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