Anyone else nervous to go too close to the calorie limit?
gallicinvasion
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I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
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Do you weigh all your food or just the calorie dense food?
I used to get weird about exact calories but then I realised that even if I weigh every onion and apple and grape there is still a margin of error depending on variety, ripeness, quality, age, how cooked or raw they might be etc. not even to get started on fat content in protein depending on how chubby the chicken was so even the most accurate measurement is still just a best guess. And my TDEE is both an estimate and variable day to day so both what I'm measuring and what I'm comparing it to are never going to be completely accurate. All you can do is give your best effort and be consistent. If you're making similar "errors" every day you can still get the idea of how you're trending!4 -
I did, but I'm kinda over it now.
All of the numbers (calorie burn from NEAT, calories in food, calories burned exercising) are estimates and the only real way to know if you are close is to look at the results over 4-8 weeks and see how you are doing vs. plan. You're female, so you get the added bonus of monthly gains and losses to mess your mind up so look to the longer term.
I know I'm kinda loosely tracking now, but I'm losing about 1.25 per week on average, so a little under my plan (1.5) but close enough that I'm not making changes as I'm happy with anything over 1 lb per week for now.
It's all about the real results (and they may not even be scale results), not whether the MFP numbers turn red. If the real results are not there, then you need to tighten things up.5 -
I have to admit I never did this, but I'm a math geek so maybe my comfort with numbers made it easier for me to trust my logging!
How much of a deficit are you running? Understand that even if you go a little over your calorie limit, you are still in a deficit and will still lose weight, just slightly less.
Sometimes our biggest hurdles are the mind games we play with ourselves. If you are losing weight at an acceptable pace, try to pat yourself on the back and trust the process3 -
I had a lot of what I felt were obsessive thoughts around this in the beginning...I managed to talk myself off the ledge on that thinking. It was just learning a new skill, and spending time thinking about it. I know that logging works for me, so I just do it and I don't attach a judgement to it. It's a life chore such as putting gas in the car or doing laundry. I just weigh my food and log it. Sometimes I prelog, but I've done this so long that I pretty much know how much of something to prepare.
I weigh myself and enter it. I log my exercise.
It's in your head. Don't torture yourself with your own thoughts.
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No never really sweated being exactly close to it because I know even if I go over by a hundred or so calories, I am still in a deficit.4
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The thing that helped me the most was learning what my TDEE was. My TDEE is about 2400 calories. My daily calorie goal is 1800. Which means even if I go over by 500 calories, I'm still in deficit!!! Learning that was huge for me!12
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gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
No, and it sounds like a shortcut to disordered eating to me.
Look at your weekly goal, not daily.
Weigh all your food with scales and as long as you're using accurate database entries and that's as good as you can get.10 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »The thing that helped me the most was learning what my TDEE was. My TDEE is about 2400 calories. My daily calorie goal is 1800. Which means even if I go over by 500 calories, I'm still in deficit!!! Learning that was huge for me!
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I don't aslong as my weight is where I want it. Now when i have a bad cheat weekend ill stay way under. Keep that metabolism on its toes lol5
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It's important to remember that your goal is not a weight loss line. It's not "go under your goal and lose weight, go over and gain weight". If you working for weight loss, a calorie deficit is already built into your goal, meaning that if you go over it, you are still going to be losing weight. It's totally fine and normal to go over your calorie goal by a little bit sometimes, and you shouldn't feel bad when you do. If you find yourself always being significantly under, you may be under eating.8
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I'm the same way. I intentionally keep my limit higher than it should be, and instead focusing on making sure that I close my day with X amount of calories "left". That also gives me a buffer for any (albeit unlikely, considering I use a food scale for everything, and my Watch is conservative on my calorie burns) measurement errors.1
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No, because I understand what my maintenance calorie needs are...If I'm below that I will lose weight regardless of whether or not I hit or go over the MFP target for weight loss. Like if my calorie goal to lose is 2300 and I eat 2500, I will still lose weight because my maintenance requirements are 2800-3000 typically.5
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gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.5 -
I've been down that rabbit hole. I'm a little OCD and have a history of ED, so I've come to terms with the fact that it's probably better for me to not weigh every morsel and just better for me to estimate to the best of my ability. And I'm still successfully losing, so it's working for me.
Although being a healthy weight is healthy, don't undermine your mental health to get there.3 -
Tedebearduff wrote: »gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.
A 20 minute walk burns 64 cals for me so wouldnt really help in that situation!8 -
not until i started trying to find maintenance (or stay at .5lbs) where the small numbers count. During weight loss my results proved what i was doing worked.
but i remind myself that if I track and see my weight isn't stable loosing a half a pound or even a full pound is no big deal if i make an error (plus daily fluctations are greater than that anyway!)2 -
Tedebearduff wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.
A 20 minute walk burns 64 cals for me so wouldnt really help in that situation!
This isn't your post
You're not the one asking the original question
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc?
What a dumb comment bud.
Wow, why so agressive?8 -
Tedebearduff wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.
A 20 minute walk burns 64 cals for me so wouldnt really help in that situation!
This isn't your post
You're not the one asking the original question
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc?
What a dumb comment bud.
#1 - @tavistocktoad is female.
#2 - letting the OP know that 20 minutes of working out may not create the calorie burn needed isn't a dumb comment.
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TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.
A 20 minute walk burns 64 cals for me so wouldnt really help in that situation!
This isn't your post
You're not the one asking the original question
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc?
What a dumb comment bud.
Wow, why so agressive?
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc? (you missed this question)
and that's how you're reading it.. not much I can do for your interpretation of what I write.
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Tedebearduff wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
Nope, but like just realize if you go over you can go for a 20 minute jog/walk/run or go to the gym for an hour and lift some weights to work it off.
A 20 minute walk burns 64 cals for me so wouldnt really help in that situation!
This isn't your post
You're not the one asking the original question
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc?
What a dumb comment bud.
Wow, why so agressive?
Is your expectation that everyone should tailor all responses specifically for you and your current weight and body type/ experience level etc? (you missed this question)
and that's how you're reading it.. not much I can do for your interpretation of what I write.
It's information that may help the OP. Why wouldn't it be helpful?
It isn't your post, either.12 -
When I first started trying to lose weight I absolutely had the same concern. I weigh and measure everything but was always worried about if I had messed up somehow and actually went over my calories and how much would that screw up my progress. But I think that was a really unhealthy way of thinking.
The truth is that I’ve created enough of a calorie deficit that I will absolutely still lose weight even if some days I go over my calorie goal. I’ve loosened up a lot about my calories. I still weigh and measure everything but as long as I’m still within 100 calories of my goal I’m happy. It hasn’t negatively impacted my weight loss at all.
It may help you to reframe your calorie goal as a range rather than 1 number to hit. So as long as you are within that range, you’re good.
You want to lose weight to be healthy so you have to make healthy choices along the way and you know that not eating enough because you are afraid of overeating is not healthy. If you are weighing your food and tracking your calories you are not going to accidentally overeat so much that you throw off your weight loss. Trust that the math works for your body the same way it works for everyone else.5 -
gallicinvasion wrote: »I think I psyche myself out of calories sometimes. I use a food scale for calorie-dense foods at home and all my lunch prep recipes, but however exact I try to be, sometimes I just get way too nervous that I have miscalculated somewhere, and I start thinking about how many calories I could be off by, and then I stay away from my calorie goal by more than that imagined margin of error. Anyone else do this?
How long have you been at this? The best way to be certain of your calories/logging is to track you intake vs losses over a period of time. Then you can be quite comfortable knowing how much you can consume (based on your own pattern of logging - whether or not it is technically 'right' won't matter).
ETA, like this https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10702775/why-consistency-matters-more-than-accuracy-to-me/p1 (ignore the silliness at the end )5 -
ETA, like this https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10702775/why-consistency-matters-more-than-accuracy-to-me/p1 (ignore the silliness at the end )
Geez. Gonna bring up that thread of your every chance you can????
Yeah, I know it's a good thread.......
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Tacklewasher wrote: »ETA, like this https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10702775/why-consistency-matters-more-than-accuracy-to-me/p1 (ignore the silliness at the end )
Geez. Gonna bring up that thread of your every chance you can????
Yeah, I know it's a good thread.......
It's not as good as my stepladder thread, but I'm not above a bit of self-promotion2 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »ETA, like this https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10702775/why-consistency-matters-more-than-accuracy-to-me/p1 (ignore the silliness at the end )
Geez. Gonna bring up that thread of your every chance you can????
Yeah, I know it's a good thread.......
It's not as good as my stepladder thread, but I'm not above a bit of self-promotion
I remember that one.
It was a short read.....
Back to the OP, @gallicinvasion did you get the info you think you need?
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*ba dum ccchh*3
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I'm with those who say that if you estimate your maintenance calories, and know you're under those, the minor variations and oopsies really don't matter in the long run. It's all estimates, and we can't be precise - but echoing others again - consistency is enough.
Moreover, if you're doing your best to be meticulous in all respects, you'll be over sometimes and under others (looking at the total picture of activity and eating). The overs and unders tend to even out.
From Wikipedia:In probability theory, the law of large numbers (LLN) is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed.
See, it's science!
Seriously, finding a way to be calm about minor variation is a good thing. You want to be practicing for your future healthy, happy weight maintenance. If necessary to avoid developing negative modes of thinking about food, talk to an expert sooner rather than later. It's like hiring a personal trainer: We need to use whatever tools and methods are applicable, to stay strong and healthy.
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Given how often I barrel over it at breakneck speed, I'd say no. But that's not really a good weight loss technique, either.4
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Do you weigh all your food or just the calorie dense food?
I used to get weird about exact calories but then I realised that even if I weigh every onion and apple and grape there is still a margin of error depending on variety, ripeness, quality, age, how cooked or raw they might be etc. not even to get started on fat content in protein depending on how chubby the chicken was so even the most accurate measurement is still just a best guess. And my TDEE is both an estimate and variable day to day so both what I'm measuring and what I'm comparing it to are never going to be completely accurate. All you can do is give your best effort and be consistent. If you're making similar "errors" every day you can still get the idea of how you're trending!
You make a valid point! I weigh foods that aren’t like...lettuce lol. When I eat out, I weigh what I can, estimate the rest, and add cooking oil calories. I just need to remind myself that there’s never going to be perfection; I just have to get as close as I can and trust the process.
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I have to admit I never did this, but I'm a math geek so maybe my comfort with numbers made it easier for me to trust my logging!
How much of a deficit are you running? Understand that even if you go a little over your calorie limit, you are still in a deficit and will still lose weight, just slightly less.
Sometimes our biggest hurdles are the mind games we play with ourselves. If you are losing weight at an acceptable pace, try to pat yourself on the back and trust the process
I’m set to lose 1 lb per week, so I’m running a 500 cal deficit. So I should just remind myself there is that cushion there!
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