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  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Life cycle of a strawberry:

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    One thing it's missing is the strawberry shortcake picture. :)
    Very nice though.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Does anyone use black plastic in their gardens? I was looking up growing sweet potatoes and it recommended using black plastic to keep the warmth in. Someone I used to know used it in their whole garden and he said it turned out to be the best garden yield he ever had. I'd most likely just do the potatoes but was curious if others have done it.

    I do use black plastic, but only in the beginning of the season, to warm up the soil for warm annuals. I have some over where I'm going to plant pole beans. When I stuck a marigold in the middle of that section last week I noticed the soil was super dry, so I wouldn't use it once the weather warms up unless you plan to water aggressively.

    Is your friend using it for mulch? I prefer sterilized chopped straw, and my mom prefers leaves. I think straw is superior for mulching lettuce and strawberries, and anywhere where slugs are a concern. Mom likes leaves because they are free ;)

    I'm not sure if they used it for mulching purposes or not but they did their whole garden that way. I'll try it on a couple of my veggies, such as sweet potatoes(IF I can ever get them to sprout enough to replant :()
    I did use straw in my strawberry beds and they're growing like crazy, flowering and look really healthy.
    I'm planting other stuff today. Usually Memorial Day weekend is the big planting time here due to a surprise late frost some years but we've had consistently warmish weather for the past 2-3 weeks. And same predicted weather for the next 10 days so here's hoping. :)

    I really think you'll have better results buying sweet potato slips of varieties that were designed for New England rather than trying to sprout a store bought potato that was likely a southern variety...

    Local availability is very short, so this is something that needs to be planned. Or you can order from a company like Burpees anytime early spring and they will ship when the time is right to plant in your zone.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Life cycle of a strawberry:

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    One thing it's missing is the strawberry shortcake picture. :)
    Very nice though.

    HAHAHA, my friend said "It just misses the last part where I eat it."
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    @kshama2001 , did you create that strawberry life cycle picture? That's beautiful! We remodeled our kitchen last spring and I'm going to get some pictures of my flowers and veggies framed to hang. That is a really neat idea :heart:

    I did not create it, no - all the artistic images or memes come from my gardening group on Facebook, which was my Safe Space during the pandemic :)
  • Katmary71
    Katmary71 Posts: 7,159 Member
    @girlwithcurls2 I'm zone 9B outside of Sacramento so it's warm! It's a little town but the food bank farm is awesome, there's 3 large fields then beds a volunteer plants in around the food bank with edibles and flowers. You grow what I've always wanted to, asparagus!

    @kshama2001 I'll have to investigate the restrictions, I think the grass should go but I'm renting so it's not my decision. I had leftover straw as I bought a couple bags to build shelter for the feral cat I feed and mulched with it but I've noticed the birds are taking it for their nests!
  • SuzanneC1l9zz
    SuzanneC1l9zz Posts: 461 Member
    I have two halves of a sprouted potato in the ground. I suspect there might be a layer of gravel at some unknown depth underneath so we'll see if they do anything.

    The potted vegetables are still in their tent in my kitchen. It's supposed to warm up for a few hours today, but they'll have to come back in for the night.
  • girlwithcurls2
    girlwithcurls2 Posts: 2,282 Member
    I started two kinds of basil seeds this year. They look identical at this early stage. However, I transplanted the whole lot into the raised bed (along with other warm weather things) and we got some cold rain this week. One of the varieties of basil looks terrible. It must be much more temperamental than the other :( There are barely any little green bits on the starts. I'm going over there to give it a little pep talk today and to let it know that warmer days are coming. The strange thing is how much warmer the starts that haven't been transplanted must be. They're all fine in their pot...

    @Katmary71 , I wish I could give you some of my asparagus. I'm eating it every day at this point. No complaints, since it is just amazing straight from the ground, but mercy, so much!
  • RetiredAndLovingIt
    RetiredAndLovingIt Posts: 1,395 Member
    For the people growing zucchinis, my daughter uses a tomato cage over them & says it makes them easier to pick.
  • joryrheanne
    joryrheanne Posts: 49 Member
    I started my vegetable garden last week and added 16 cucumbers to it this morning. I have 6 tomatoe plants I bought this morning that I have to make room for. So far I have dill, onion, strawberries, cantaloupe, zuchinni, hot peppers, green peppers and cucumber. This is our third summer here. We have 1 acre to work with. We have a gooseberry, blueberry, and raspberry bush that have berries on them this year. We put in a hibiscus tree last week and I’m excited to see what it does. The mosquitos have been bad in the mornings and evenings and those are the coolest times a day. So to do gardening we have a choice between the mosquitos or the hot sun.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member
    Would you....


    Plant tomato starts that you inherited that have no label on them?

    I have two San Marzano plants in the soil plus another I may leave in a big pot. I have a little Sungold my neighbor gave me because she knows they are favorites. Then I have these two four-inch pots.... My planting space is fairly limited because of all the perennial plants (blueberries, raspberries, artichokes, grapes) plus the big bed of garlic. I'd like to add a slicing tomato, but maybe the San Marzanos will have to pull that duty.

    I'm thinking of planting those random pots out in the orchard and seeing if maybe they survive.

    I don't even know whether or not they are determinate plants or would prefer to be staked.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member
    A neighbor stopped me the other day as I was driving back from canoeing on the river. I thought she was just waving, but then she clearly made the WAIT sign.

    I unlocked the passenger door (yes, my truck is old enough that the windows are manual... so is the transmission... even have a cassette deck) and opened it. She said, "I hear you have more artichokes than you can eat...."

    I told her I had enough to share. I was right.
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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    A neighbor stopped me the other day as I was driving back from canoeing on the river. I thought she was just waving, but then she clearly made the WAIT sign.

    I unlocked the passenger door (yes, my truck is old enough that the windows are manual... so is the transmission... even have a cassette deck) and opened it. She said, "I hear you have more artichokes than you can eat...."

    I told her I had enough to share. I was right.
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    @mtaratoot: I've never cooked with fresh artichokes. I've read about it in various Joy of Cooking cookbooks over the years but I guess I've felt intimidated. How do you cook them?
  • SuzanneC1l9zz
    SuzanneC1l9zz Posts: 461 Member
    My pot veggies were looking sad after several days in the bedsheet tent in my kitchen and I don't blame them. They did get out yesterday for a few hours but then back in last night. It's finally warmed up enough for them to stay out tonight. They're all in the sun and got a big drink so hopefully they'll perk up.

    The raspberries look great and the strawberries that my sister very nearly drowned before giving them to be seem to be perking up now that they're out of the waterlogged soil and in the ground. Fingers crossed.

    I also have beets, carrots, beans, Swiss chard and kale seeds in the ground so I'm waiting eagerly for sprouts.

    The downed tree is still a work in progress though.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    A neighbor stopped me the other day as I was driving back from canoeing on the river. I thought she was just waving, but then she clearly made the WAIT sign.

    I unlocked the passenger door (yes, my truck is old enough that the windows are manual... so is the transmission... even have a cassette deck) and opened it. She said, "I hear you have more artichokes than you can eat...."

    I told her I had enough to share. I was right.
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    @mtaratoot: I've never cooked with fresh artichokes. I've read about it in various Joy of Cooking cookbooks over the years but I guess I've felt intimidated. How do you cook them?

    So many ways.

    The easiest is to get a good sharp knife and cut off a bunch of the pointy bits. Maybe the top third or quarter of the flower. Use shears to trim off the thorns from the rest of the leaves, except you can pull off some of the tough very outer layer of lower leaves.
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    Set a pot on the stove with a steamer basket in it. Some people squeeze lemon juice in the water to help keep the artichokes from changing color. I don't bother. Place the chokes cut side down on the steamer basket. This way steam gets up inside. Turn the pot to medium, and steam for 30 to 50 minutes - until the leaves can pull off easily. Use tongs to remove them. Peel off each leaf and scrape off the delicious meat at the base of each one. When you get to the middle (the choke), scoop that away gently with a spoon. Then you're left with the heart.

    Lots of people make some kind of dip with lemon/butter/olive oil/garlic. Some even use mayo. I eat mine without anything. I sometimes spread the tiniest amount of butter on the heart and sprinkle with finishing salt.

    You also can partially cook them in the steam and then finish them in the smoker.

    I have roasted them in the oven.
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    I think it would be fun to scoop out the choke of raw artichokes and stuff them with something and bake or steam right-side up. I suppose I could cook them fully, and THEN take out the middle and stuff with dungeness crab meat, but I didn't save any from crab season.



  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member
    Of course I cut some more flowers tonight.....

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    I steamed three of them and devoured them. The other two are in the vase. I'll cook 'em tomorrow or give 'em away.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    Sadly, the only way I've ever eaten artichokes has been in Artichoke Dip.
    Roasted artichokes look good, love roasted veggies!
  • joryrheanne
    joryrheanne Posts: 49 Member
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    I dug out some sod this morning to extend our garden. I had to make room for strawberries and more tomatoe plants. I have 10 tomatoe plants total, started out with 4 but then I figured we needed more. My dh likes to make salsa after harvest time.

    It took me an hour to extend the garden and I got it done just before the rain started. The soil is all ready for more planting now and I got some good excercise in for the day. I worked up a good sweat.

    I have some hollyhocks and portulaca to pot as well and cosmos to go in the front garden.

    Hope everyone has a great day!

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Thanks @mtaratoot! I'm going to try steaming some tonight! (I hope they haven't been sitting in the frig too long.)
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    Have to google this but just wondering if anybody here would know why my zucchini plants are going pale on me? They're planted in my garden, lots of friendly sunshine and water; I used composted cow manure. Maybe they'll come around as they grow?
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Have to google this but just wondering if anybody here would know why my zucchini plants are going pale on me? They're planted in my garden, lots of friendly sunshine and water; I used composted cow manure. Maybe they'll come around as they grow?

    How long ago did you plant them?
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Have to google this but just wondering if anybody here would know why my zucchini plants are going pale on me? They're planted in my garden, lots of friendly sunshine and water; I used composted cow manure. Maybe they'll come around as they grow?

    How long ago did you plant them?

    Early last week? But they were turning lighter before that too. :(
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Have to google this but just wondering if anybody here would know why my zucchini plants are going pale on me? They're planted in my garden, lots of friendly sunshine and water; I used composted cow manure. Maybe they'll come around as they grow?

    How long ago did you plant them?

    Early last week? But they were turning lighter before that too. :(
    Hmmm... first thought is maybe seedlings that got too much sun too fast (I am notorious for doing that to mine 😜). If they aren’t wilting hopefully they are OK! Mine did that but eventually snapped out of it and are back to growing like they should... but I am still learning so there might be others here way more experienced to offer advice.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Have to google this but just wondering if anybody here would know why my zucchini plants are going pale on me? They're planted in my garden, lots of friendly sunshine and water; I used composted cow manure. Maybe they'll come around as they grow?

    Too much water?

    Too soon, I would think, for an iron deficiency to show up.

    Consider yourself lucky. Maybe some of them will expire so you don't have so many zukes to foist on friends and neighbors in a month. I was talking to a friend yesterday. He has a younger co-worker who put in his first garden. He told my friend he planted five (or was it eight) zucchini plants. He asked, "WHY?!?!" His co-worker said he likes 'em and so does his wife. He has no idea how many there will be. He even thinks he can bake his way out of the surplus by making lots of zucchini bread. I guess to be honest, he could go pick ten tiny zucchini every day, and he might be able to stay on top of things. Maybe pick some blossoms, too, to add to salads.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,397 Member

    I expect to have peas soon.

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    And marion berries (a blackberry variety), raspberries and blueberries.
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    And cherries (if the spotted wing drosophila doesn't ruin 'em all), Chojuro Asian Pears, and Bartlet Pears.
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    I already am harvesting lots of artichokes.
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  • girlwithcurls2
    girlwithcurls2 Posts: 2,282 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Thanks @mtaratoot! I'm going to try steaming some tonight! (I hope they haven't been sitting in the frig too long.)

    It's also delicious to steam them and then slice down the center, rub with lemon and grill them :)
  • Katmary71
    Katmary71 Posts: 7,159 Member
    @mtaratoot I have artichoke envy!

    @girlwithcurls2 What kind of basil are you growing? I'm growing sweet, Genovese, Cardinal, Thai, Opal, Mammoth, and Cinnamon. For some reason sweet and Genovese aren't starting as well as usual, I was supposed to grow for the food bank farm and only a couple started, it's embarrassing! At least my tomatoes for them grew and since I water there a few days a week I don't feel like a complete loser!

    I'm growing zucchini for the first time and it looks like I'll have two to harvest next weekend, woohoo! A couple tomatoes are right on it's heels. My luffa plant doesn't look very happy but everything else is doing fairly well.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    Katmary71 wrote: »
    @mtaratoot I have artichoke envy!

    @girlwithcurls2 What kind of basil are you growing? I'm growing sweet, Genovese, Cardinal, Thai, Opal, Mammoth, and Cinnamon. For some reason sweet and Genovese aren't starting as well as usual, I was supposed to grow for the food bank farm and only a couple started, it's embarrassing! At least my tomatoes for them grew and since I water there a few days a week I don't feel like a complete loser!

    I'm growing zucchini for the first time and it looks like I'll have two to harvest next weekend, woohoo! A couple tomatoes are right on it's heels. My luffa plant doesn't look very happy but everything else is doing fairly well.
    Drooling over all those basils! I love growing all the different herbs types (mints and basils especially... mints have taken over nearly every pot I have :lol: peppermint, chocolate, apple, orange, and lemon balm are the ones I can think of). I have lettuce leaf basil growing that I started from seed, normally some Thai will pop back up from last years seed, but the other varieties seem finickier from seed.
  • Katmary71
    Katmary71 Posts: 7,159 Member
    @moonangel12 Lettuce leaf basil would be fun to grow! I love mints too, what do you do with them? I mostly use them in water, I have spearmint, orange mint, and berries and cream. I bought a packet of mixed mints and none have sprouted. Chocolate mint is good on strawberries and balsamic over ice cream! My aunt introduced me to getting good block feta and cutting it in chunks and wrapping in mint, that's pretty awesome! I bought my seeds from Baker's Creek which has a good reputation but my lemon balm didn't start either. I ordered a new African basil and they said it needs to be hot to germinate so I'm still waiting but it's hit 90s and nothing.

    Do you grow other herbs? I have two different kinds of oregano, marjoram, rosemary, lavender, basil, mints, evening primose, pinapple sage, regular sage, parsley, chives, echinacea, chamomile, dill, stevia, and I think that's it. My herb garden area was my first garden, I'd eventually like a bay laurel tree as well. I have a few others I just started like anise hyssop, I'd like to get a good selection for tea.

    My first zucchini are about ready, woohoo!
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    Katmary71 wrote: »
    @moonangel12 Lettuce leaf basil would be fun to grow! I love mints too, what do you do with them? I mostly use them in water, I have spearmint, orange mint, and berries and cream. I bought a packet of mixed mints and none have sprouted. Chocolate mint is good on strawberries and balsamic over ice cream! My aunt introduced me to getting good block feta and cutting it in chunks and wrapping in mint, that's pretty awesome! I bought my seeds from Baker's Creek which has a good reputation but my lemon balm didn't start either. I ordered a new African basil and they said it needs to be hot to germinate so I'm still waiting but it's hit 90s and nothing.

    Do you grow other herbs? I have two different kinds of oregano, marjoram, rosemary, lavender, basil, mints, evening primose, pinapple sage, regular sage, parsley, chives, echinacea, chamomile, dill, stevia, and I think that's it. My herb garden area was my first garden, I'd eventually like a bay laurel tree as well. I have a few others I just started like anise hyssop, I'd like to get a good selection for tea.

    My first zucchini are about ready, woohoo!

    Tea is my main mint use, but now that I am doing AIP (auto immune protocol) I am relying more on fresh herbs for flavor so I am looking forward to some new uses this summer!

    I have a very similar list to yours: lavender (fave!!), oregano, rosemary (two types), thyme, lemon thyme, sage (and variegated sage which is beautiful! I am a sucker for variegated anything), chives, echinacea, German chamomile starting, hopefully some dill will pop up... I think I put out some anise hyssop seed as well. I do need to get some cilantro and parsley going, those are my main “everyday” herbs that I use.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
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