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Gestational diabetic
jamiebrown16
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I have recently been diagnosed with gestational diabetes. I need help with some recipes, breakfast is my hardest meal of day. I have mainly been doing chicken, fruit, and veggies and I am starting to get bord with it. I need a way to mix it up. I also needs to be gluten free. I am having a tough time with it, so I am looking for help. Please and thank you.
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Have your OB refer you to a dietitian.7
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You may wish to limit your carbs in order to keep BG lower. Avoiding sugar and processed carbs (baked goods, noodles, etc) is a good spot to start. You may have to limit sugary fruits and some starchy root veggies too depending on your BG levels. I recommend using a blood glucose monitor so you can see what is raising your BG levels too much.
I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.11 -
I had gestational diabetes and was referred to a dietician. They gave me a carb "budget" per meals, and I had to eat a steady 3 meals, 2 or 3 snacks. I'm trying to remember what it was but something like 15-30g carbs for breakfast, 30-45g carbs for dinner and lunch, <15g carbs per snack (this was for me! I'm not saying to follow this, I'm not a doctor or dietician). They also gave me meal suggestions, list of food, etc. I was able to control mine with diet alone, kept a journal with my food and blood sugar. OB was calling me a model GD patient (I get obessive over stuff like that so it was right in my ballpark).
I can't have gluten (which I didn't know at the time), but if you usually do not have gluten, you can usually have the same food, you just need to look at you amount of carbs per meal and track your blood sugar.3 -
I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.11 -
MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
Yep, I've gone over diet choices regularly with the midwife, and checked nhs recommendations. Keto is definitely not advised during pregnancy.
Really though, OP please speak to your doctor or midwife about diet plans. It's so important to get proper nutrition at this point, you're growing a person!
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MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.18 -
Thank you everyone I appreciate your feedback. I do meet with a dietician at the end of the week but I see my doctor a couple days before and wanted to them I was trying to do something different. I don't want to be put on insulin. Thank you you again 🙂4
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jamiebrown16 wrote: »Thank you everyone I appreciate your feedback. I do meet with a dietician at the end of the week but I see my doctor a couple days before and wanted to them I was trying to do something different. I don't want to be put on insulin. Thank you you again 🙂
Sounds like a good plan. Your OB and dietician will be the best ones to come up with a plan that will be best for both you and baby. Many diabetics do really well managing their disease with lowered carbs, not drastically reduced carbs. GD has other factors that need to be considered.7 -
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modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.11 -
modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!7 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!
I'm happy to look at anything that shows that carbs are essential, and are essential to a developing fetus. Doctors and dieticians do not know it all. You know that.
I am of the opinion that rapid dietary changes may not be good, but I said that. A slow lowering of carbs is fine. No pregnant woman exists on the same number of carbs each day. There is variation. Heck, I lost 10-15lbs in the second and third month of my pregnancies due to nausea. Pg women can do fine with dietary changes. Bread, noodles, croissants, soda or candy does a baby no favours. Eliminating those foods is a great way to lower carbs and BG....better than taking insulin. IMO.
Good luck to the OP.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!
I'm happy to look at anything that shows that carbs are essential, and are essential to a developing fetus. Doctors and dieticians do not know it all. You know that.
I am of the opinion that rapid dietary changes may not be good, but I said that. A slow lowering of carbs is fine. No pregnant woman exists on the same number of carbs each day. There is variation. Heck, I lost 10-15lbs in the second and third month of my pregnancies due to nausea. Pg women can do fine with dietary changes. Bread, noodles, croissants, soda or candy does a baby no favours. Eliminating those foods is a great way to lower carbs and BG....better than taking insulin. IMO.
Good luck to the OP.
Given that an above poster was able to follow the recommendations of her Registered Dietitian and regulate her BG just fine and avoid medication, I think there's a world of room between going totally low carb and taking insulin for pregnant people diagnosed with GD.
I hope the OP has followed the recommendations to consult an RD and has listened to the advice of the other women in this thread who have actually had the condition.
I am not averse to the idea of low-carbing during pregnancy since I did it myself, but I don't think in a medical situation where professional advice is called for that saying anything other than to consult one's doctor is prudent.5 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!
I'm happy to look at anything that shows that carbs are essential, and are essential to a developing fetus. Doctors and dieticians do not know it all. You know that.
I am of the opinion that rapid dietary changes may not be good, but I said that. A slow lowering of carbs is fine. No pregnant woman exists on the same number of carbs each day. There is variation. Heck, I lost 10-15lbs in the second and third month of my pregnancies due to nausea. Pg women can do fine with dietary changes. Bread, noodles, croissants, soda or candy does a baby no favours. Eliminating those foods is a great way to lower carbs and BG....better than taking insulin. IMO.
Good luck to the OP.
Given that an above poster was able to follow the recommendations of her Registered Dietitian and regulate her BG just fine and avoid medication, I think there's a world of room between going totally low carb and taking insulin for pregnant people diagnosed with GD.
I hope the OP has followed the recommendations to consult an RD and has listened to the advice of the other women in this thread who have actually had the condition.
I am not averse to the idea of low-carbing during pregnancy since I did it myself, but I don't think in a medical situation where professional advice is called for that saying anything other than to consult one's doctor is prudent.
I couldn't agree more!0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!
I'm happy to look at anything that shows that carbs are essential, and are essential to a developing fetus. Doctors and dieticians do not know it all. You know that.
I am of the opinion that rapid dietary changes may not be good, but I said that. A slow lowering of carbs is fine. No pregnant woman exists on the same number of carbs each day. There is variation. Heck, I lost 10-15lbs in the second and third month of my pregnancies due to nausea. Pg women can do fine with dietary changes. Bread, noodles, croissants, soda or candy does a baby no favours. Eliminating those foods is a great way to lower carbs and BG....better than taking insulin. IMO.
Good luck to the OP.
Given that an above poster was able to follow the recommendations of her Registered Dietitian and regulate her BG just fine and avoid medication, I think there's a world of room between going totally low carb and taking insulin for pregnant people diagnosed with GD.
I hope the OP has followed the recommendations to consult an RD and has listened to the advice of the other women in this thread who have actually had the condition.
I am not averse to the idea of low-carbing during pregnancy since I did it myself, but I don't think in a medical situation where professional advice is called for that saying anything other than to consult one's doctor is prudent.
The previous poster was following a LCHF diet as recommended by a dietician, although it might not have been called that. 30g for breakfast, 45 g for lunch and dinner plus <15g for a snack is under 135g of carbs; it may have been as lower than 75g if not snacking and eating fewer than the max carbs per meal.
I did say consulting a doctor or dietician is fine. I also pointed out that they can be wrong. It happens. Most would give fine advice, I would hope.
I have not recommended ketogenic level (<50g), and I would not recommend making huge sudden changes in carb levels.
My only argument was that there is no evidence that low carb, or very low carb, is not good for a developing fetus. There really is nothing that shows that. Conversing, there is evidence that high BG,which typically comes from the foods that one eats (ie. carbs), is not healthy for a developing fetus. LCHF is usually a fine choice for pg mothers.
That one needs a certain carb intake is an old myth that is slow to disappear. If anything the stress should be on protein intake.
On the other hand, in a healthy person with stable BG, carbs are not a bad thing.8 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »modusoperandi1412 wrote: »MHarper522 wrote: »I would look into LCHF or even keto recipes for more ideas. Beef, pork, lamb, fish eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, avocado, coconut and veggies are all lower carb.
On thing about keto recipes though, is that I remember one worry my dietician and OB had was that I do not eat too few carbs. You need a certain level of carbs for your baby's development. My urine was checked for ketones too.
I doubt the dietician is correct. Carbs are nonessential. The Inuit and plains First Nations people ate that way, and I know a few women who ate very low carb through pregnancy.
I wouldn't drop carbs to zero in a day, but a slow reduction of carbs to 50g or so (if Keto is a goal) is safe unless you are taking insulin. Low carb is under 100-150g a day, which is upwards of 50g of carbs a meZl - not a small amount.
At the very least, I would consider giving up, or really restricting, sugar and highly processed carbs. They are high in carbs, will raise BG faster than most foods (except maybe a juice) and in terms of nutrition, they are weak. Whole foods are healthier for you and may help set your baby up for a healthy start in life.
Good luck.
Are you telling her to not listen to a registered dietician AND an OB? What the actual hell?
Merely correcting the misinformation that carbs are essential. There are not. A better informed dietician should know that.
So, she should listen to you instead of to them? What are *your* medical qualifications?
OP: Please continue to get qualified advice from your RD and doctor. As you know, GD is a specific medical condition that falls well outside of the jurisdiction of non-medical (albeit hopefully well-intended) strangers trying to promote an agenda that might very well be ill advised for you and your baby.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!
I'm happy to look at anything that shows that carbs are essential, and are essential to a developing fetus. Doctors and dieticians do not know it all. You know that.
I am of the opinion that rapid dietary changes may not be good, but I said that. A slow lowering of carbs is fine. No pregnant woman exists on the same number of carbs each day. There is variation. Heck, I lost 10-15lbs in the second and third month of my pregnancies due to nausea. Pg women can do fine with dietary changes. Bread, noodles, croissants, soda or candy does a baby no favours. Eliminating those foods is a great way to lower carbs and BG....better than taking insulin. IMO.
Good luck to the OP.
Given that an above poster was able to follow the recommendations of her Registered Dietitian and regulate her BG just fine and avoid medication, I think there's a world of room between going totally low carb and taking insulin for pregnant people diagnosed with GD.
I hope the OP has followed the recommendations to consult an RD and has listened to the advice of the other women in this thread who have actually had the condition.
I am not averse to the idea of low-carbing during pregnancy since I did it myself, but I don't think in a medical situation where professional advice is called for that saying anything other than to consult one's doctor is prudent.
The previous poster was following a LCHF diet as recommended by a dietician, although it might not have been called that. 30g for breakfast, 45 g for lunch and dinner plus <15g for a snack is under 135g of carbs; it may have been as lower than 75g if not snacking and eating fewer than the max carbs per meal.
I did say consulting a doctor or dietician is fine. I also pointed out that they can be wrong. It happens. Most would give fine advice, I would hope.
I have not recommended ketogenic level (<50g), and I would not recommend making huge sudden changes in carb levels.
My only argument was that there is no evidence that low carb, or very low carb, is not good for a developing fetus. There really is nothing that shows that. Conversing, there is evidence that high BG,which typically comes from the foods that one eats (ie. carbs), is not healthy for a developing fetus. LCHF is usually a fine choice for pg mothers.
That one needs a certain carb intake is an old myth that is slow to disappear. If anything the stress should be on protein intake.
On the other hand, in a healthy person with stable BG, carbs are not a bad thing.
You gave advice on how to lower to ketogenic carb intake even though OP did not mention wanting to go keto. Bringing it up, even if you aren't specifically 'recommending' it, is a way to suggest it would be a good idea. You may want to reflect on why you are so often having to walk back your statements after others point out that you are offering irresponsible advice for dealing with serious medical conditions.7 -
I had a response and it was lost. Probably for the best.
Apologies to the OP for letting the thread be derailed. There is a very small number who react overly contrary to anything I post, even if correct, and it tends to turn into a semantics debate.
Best of luck in your pg and in controlling your gestational diabetes.8 -
jamiebrown16 wrote: »I have recently been diagnosed with gestational diabetes. I need help with some recipes, breakfast is my hardest meal of day. I have mainly been doing chicken, fruit, and veggies and I am starting to get bord with it. I need a way to mix it up. I also needs to be gluten free. I am having a tough time with it, so I am looking for help. Please and thank you.
Sidestepping the train wreck...
I had GD with my last pregnancy. I never saw a dietitian. My OB put me on a "diabetic diet." Basically, I had about 120g of carbs a day, 30 or less per meal with one snack. I got a meter and tested my blood sugar and noted the foods that caused my reading to go nuts. For me it was anything with flour/wheat, fruit juice, and added sugar foods. So I avoided those. I basically filled my plate with meat and veggies and left a very small spot for a starch. I only had one piece of fruit a day, usually for the snack.
I avoided insulin but was put on a BG lowering med in the beginning as my glucose levels were sluggish to respond to diet, but as time went on, I had to watch out for hypo episodes so I probably could have gotten off of it. Especially as I pinpointed and eliminated foods that spiked my BG.
I had a healthy 8lb 9oz, 22 inch kiddo (which was normal baby-size for me since I'm part Amazon anyway) who is insanely intelligent and is now 7 years old.
As far as boredom, well, you have to do what you have to do for the baby. But there are a billion diabetic recipes so find some that fit your carb level. And there are a billion GF recipes. If your BG doesn't go berserk, you can probably fit in some potato or rice to add a little bit of variety. It's as much a mindset thing as anything though. It isn't forever. It's annoying to have to completely change everything, but your health and the baby's health are paramount here. So we do what we must, even though it sucks.
Keep doing what you are doing, watching your carb level. 30g per meal and a 30g carb snack ought to hold you until your appt with the dietitian.
HTH.5
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