Silly reality weight loss shows
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »Butter in coffee is a very keto thing...personally gag
I know but why make an overweight person think that that's the best way to lose? It's not. And yes its gross
What makes you think that this isn't a good way for that person to lose weight? Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit not demonising foods.
Bulletproof Coffee, as it's called, may be an excellent choice for someone who finds fats filling and satisfying.
Why butter, though? If you're satiated by fat, why not just regular cream?
It's a fad.
If you like cream in your coffee, how sure are you that you wouldn’t also like it frothed with butter?0 -
concordancia wrote: »I don't do butter in coffee because I like black coffee. I do add a tbl. spoon of MCT oil and it is tasteless and odorless. To the OP regarding weight loss shows. I don't know if this can be backed up with fact but I read that there will likely never be a reunion show of the biggest loser winners because they are all fat again. If this is true it doesn't paint a pretty picture for weight loss success. Does anybody know if there any truth to this? I am curious.
They are not all fat again, but it seems that the ones who stayed slimmest made a career out of fitness and/or motivational speaking, so their focus is different from their colleagues.
From what I've read, most Biggest Losers have gained back weight and some have gained back all of the weight. What they went through to lose the weight is not sustainable for the vast majority of people. Starving yourself and exercising 6-8 hours every single day will result in dramatic weight loss. No way to keep that up though.3 -
I don't do butter in coffee because I like black coffee. I do add a tbl. spoon of MCT oil and it is tasteless and odorless. To the OP regarding weight loss shows. I don't know if this can be backed up with fact but I read that there will likely never be a reunion show of the biggest loser winners because they are all fat again. If this is true it doesn't paint a pretty picture for weight loss success. Does anybody know if there any truth to this? I am curious.
I think this can be said of any method of weight loss. It's a sad fact that most people (in the general population, probably less so in these forums) gain back most or all of the weight lost within a couple of years. In my opinion, this is directly related to lack of support for weight maintenance. There are so many intervention programs (many paid for by insurance) to help with weight loss, but once at a healthy weight (or struggling to stay there even if one has never been overweight) people are on their own.3 -
Butter in coffee is tasty. I did Keto for 2 months and calorie count for 2 months. I lost more on the cal. count. Although, a higher fat and protein amount in your diet does make you feel fuller and less hungry throughout the day. But I still need the carbs for energy.
It took me til month three to get around the lack of energy for workouts on keto. All of a sudden my running energy came back.0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »Butter in coffee is a very keto thing...personally gag
I know but why make an overweight person think that that's the best way to lose? It's not. And yes its gross
What makes you think that this isn't a good way for that person to lose weight? Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit not demonising foods.
Bulletproof Coffee, as it's called, may be an excellent choice for someone who finds fats filling and satisfying.
Lol are you joking... I'm a major advocate for not demonizing foods. If anything thats why I cant stand the whole keto trend because all it does is demonize carbs and make people think that they need to live a miserable carb and sugar free life to achieve weight loss success. Most overweight people aren't even aware that weight loss is about a calorie deficit so they need to be taught this by their nutritionists ... not given revolting coffee with butter which trust me, nobody actually enjoys. Do you think an overweight person is actually going to enjoy coffee with butter in it as opposed to a piece of toast with avo.. or anything more filling and tasty? Weigt losa needs to be something that can be sustained long term and for the majority of people I highly doubt wasting 300 or so calories on butter coffee is a way of life
Woah woah woah.. slow your roll there Judgey McJudgerson. You are doing a lot of assuming there and it's not pretty.
I totally understand not demonizing food, but don't rag on a diet b/c you don't like it. I'm keto and not "miserable" b/c I can't have carbs and sugar. And it's very sustainable FOR ME. Just b/c YOU don't think it is doesn't mean it can't be.
I would never be able to go vegan, but I'm not going to sit here and claim that it's not sustainable or that they must be miserable without meat.
I also don't do butter in coffee b/c it sounds gross.. TO ME, but to say that everyone that drinks it that way definitely doesn't enjoy it too? Really? Good grief. Get off that high horse of yours.
And way to assume most overweight people are idiots too... even though we've all been told most of our lives to eat less, portion control, count calories, etc. But yeah.. keep thinking you're right and everyone else is stupid.
Right, I wouldn't want to do either keto or vegan myself but recognize these are successful WOE for many people.2 -
I am not attempting the keto thing. I do have a tub of Rapid Fire instant keto coffee, which is 100 calories of mostly fat from a 15 gram serving. I never, ever, volunteered to put butter in my coffee, but this stuff tastes ok and feels ok. I was surprised.0
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I don't do butter in coffee because I like black coffee. I do add a tbl. spoon of MCT oil and it is tasteless and odorless. To the OP regarding weight loss shows. I don't know if this can be backed up with fact but I read that there will likely never be a reunion show of the biggest loser winners because they are all fat again. If this is true it doesn't paint a pretty picture for weight loss success. Does anybody know if there any truth to this? I am curious.
Statistics show that over 80% of people that lose weight gain all (some gain even more) back within 5 years, no matter how the weight is lost. Not a pretty picture for anyone. Sustainability for keeping the weight off takes dedication to adhering to eating no more calories than your body burns. No guarantees for anyone, no matter how they achieved their goal weight.2 -
I know two people who have done Keto and boy is there a lot of bro science regarding that diet. The first time on Keto they found this youtuber by the name of Stephanie Keto Person. She recommended having 200g of fat daily for 6 months to a year to get a person fat adapted but you had to gain fat for the first 6 months of the diet at least and I'm thinking this is the worst idea possible. They started putting butter in drinks, putting oil in drinks and everything. Well one of them got really sick and after arguing for for a bit they went to a Dr and the Dr pretty much had to say that your body doesn't agree with what you're doing and to cut back on what you're doing. Well then one of them continued being sick very often, electrolyte drinks 3 times a day didn't help so she just ended up switching to Paleo which she is doing absolutely amazing on.
The second person is still doing Keto, she really liked her whey protein drink which consists of avocados, almond milk, whey protein and butter warmed up. Well she had her blood checked recently and her bad cholesterol was twice as high as her good cholesterol. I know that butter is still in the diet, but it's still not healthy to go around drinking it. There is studies starting to suggest that low carbohydrate diets replacing it with unhealthy fats (like butter) and protein(bacon) is leading to a decrease in life expectancy. In the same study they suggest switching out meat protein for plant protein and fats makes a person's life expectancy go up though.
That said I'm still a meat eater so I'm not a vegetarian who is biased. The key for me has just been learning to eat in moderation. I've also noticed that grains and processed foods don't fill me up so I avoid those like the plague. Through experimenting with what does and doesnt work, I pretty much ended up on Paleo. Lol1 -
I'm 43 female, 5"6' and weigh 300lbs.
Graduated HS at 180, gained a bit in college then at 25 dropped to 150 by eating super healthy and being very active. Did triathlons, lifted weights, ran, did tons of recreational super duper active things. Maintained loss for 7-8 years and slowly began gaining as healthy habits slipped. Really piled the weight on when essentially taking a 3 year cross country RV trip and totally stopped any real exercise and ate whatever I wanted. Drank lots too.
Surprise, surprise!!! It never ends, maintenance is definitely harder. But we all can do it...im back at it and know I'll be successful again.2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »Butter in coffee is a very keto thing...personally gag
I know but why make an overweight person think that that's the best way to lose? It's not. And yes its gross
What makes you think that this isn't a good way for that person to lose weight? Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit not demonising foods.
Bulletproof Coffee, as it's called, may be an excellent choice for someone who finds fats filling and satisfying.
Lol are you joking... I'm a major advocate for not demonizing foods. If anything thats why I cant stand the whole keto trend because all it does is demonize carbs and make people think that they need to live a miserable carb and sugar free life to achieve weight loss success. Most overweight people aren't even aware that weight loss is about a calorie deficit so they need to be taught this by their nutritionists ... not given revolting coffee with butter which trust me, nobody actually enjoys. Do you think an overweight person is actually going to enjoy coffee with butter in it as opposed to a piece of toast with avo.. or anything more filling and tasty? Weigt losa needs to be something that can be sustained long term and for the majority of people I highly doubt wasting 300 or so calories on butter coffee is a way of life
I would probably quit now, you have had your opinion. Let others speak without your uninformed judgement.8 -
shelbygeorge29 wrote: »I'm 43 female, 5"6' and weigh 300lbs.
Graduated HS at 180, gained a bit in college then at 25 dropped to 150 by eating super healthy and being very active. Did triathlons, lifted weights, ran, did tons of recreational super duper active things. Maintained loss for 7-8 years and slowly began gaining as healthy habits slipped. Really piled the weight on when essentially taking a 3 year cross country RV trip and totally stopped any real exercise and ate whatever I wanted. Drank lots too.
Surprise, surprise!!! It never ends, maintenance is definitely harder. But we all can do it...im back at it and know I'll be successful again.
I'm always saying maintaining is far, far harder than losing the weight.
I lost 140lb over around 20months and have maintained that loss for 15months now (+/-8lb where I've bulked and cut). While losing the weight the number dropping on the scales was so motivating, now I don't get to see that drop and instead I see my fitness levels and strength increasing.1 -
Knowing how much work it takes, it definitely took me awhile to stop being so slothful and finally have my 10,000,000,000th enough is enough moment and start taking care of myself again.
It was fun eating and drinking, etc. But then as I got bigger and bigger, I realized I *had* to make healthy changes. I know how great it feels to live in a healthy body, there are so many experiences I'm missing out on. And my health! My reasons and motivation is far different now than when I was in my 20s.
Yes, it's true when they say you have to permanently change your lifestyle to maintain your weight loss. Exercise was very much a part of that for me, that connection to my body. I was constantly challenging myself with recreational fitness and setting new goals. When I stopped having that focus, I stopped doing what I was doing and the inevitable happened.
For a long time I thought it was unfair, that I see plenty of people who don't have to work so hard at being normal weight. Even though my healthy habits slipped, I never binged or gorged, but I didn't make healthy choices (Extra mayo please!, etc) all the time, and for people like me it takes constant vigilance.
A friend of mine just completed a 90 day stay in rehab for booze. He's one of those people who just can't drink a beer or two, it's something he can't control. We were talking once and he said it was so unfair, that most people could drink and have fun, but they didn't cross that line. As hard as he tried different tricks to moderate his drinking, they never really worked. He finally realized that fair or not, he wasn't one of those people and he had to change his life.
It's not fair, but I'm one of those people who just can't not pay attention to what I eat and drink, and not stay active. I've got to work with what I've got, and that realization has been amazing to me. I'm much more Zen about it. Which is exciting!1
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