My max heart rate is impossible to reach now!
HilTri
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When I first started spinning, I could get my heart rate up to 158 or so while spinning. Now, no matter the load or RPM I can only get my heart rate to 145 or so. I am really bothered by this because I am working as hard as I can but yet it won’t budge. I was recently diagnosed with aortal regergitation but was told to keep exercising like normal. I am very fit and strong. Any suggestions. Female 48 yo, 128 lbs, 5’6” approx 13% bf.
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Your aortal regurgitation naturally mutated your left ventricle, however, the trickle over of blood reaches a diminishing level - weakening the left ventricle at some point, which might explain your inability to reach your normative maximum heart rate.
Have you discussed this recent development with your cardiac specialists?5 -
Why do you need to reach your max heart rate?7
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that reaching your maximum heart rate isn't the healthiest thing to do.3
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FitAndLean_5738 wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that reaching your maximum heart rate isn't the healthiest thing to do.
If you're healthy it is not a big deal. If you have medical issues, you should check with your doctors.
OP - How did you determine your max HR?3 -
And a follow up question... How are you measuring your HR?1
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How did you determine your maximum HR?
My experience is that 95 percent of my max is about as high as it goes other than spikes or error reading.1 -
I have a Garmin Fenix 5 to measure heart rate. I also wear a polar chest strap that sync’s with my spin bike. I just like to go at max effort. Maybe I am a little obsessed with it all. I take a MOi spin class which focuses on three different heart rate zones low, mod and high. I can’t get out of the mod range. I think I will make an appointment with cardiology to get more info. Thanks 777Gemma888, that was helpful.4
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I have a Garmin Fenix 5 to measure heart rate. I also wear a polar chest strap that sync’s with my spin bike. I just like to go at max effort. Maybe I am a little obsessed with it all. I take a MOi spin class which focuses on three different heart rate zones low, mod and high. I can’t get out of the mod range. I think I will make an appointment with cardiology to get more info. Thanks 777Gemma888, that was helpful.
I too never reach what is supposed to be my max HR. I have MVP/MVR(mitral valve prolapse.regurgitation).my cardiologist said not to worry about reaching a target HR,as a target is just an estimate and it depends on the person.so if something gives you an estimate of 180 if you are below it thats fine and if above it as long as you dont have any side effects from it being that high then thats fine too. he said as long as you arent having any pain, dizziness,nausea,vomiting,etc then not to worry and of course know your limits.
I dont really monitor my HR much at all when working out,I know how hard Im working by how I feel and how hard I am breathing.unless you are training for something or need to monitor your HR due to your health issue then I dont see why you should worry if you are hitting your range or not. its not going to matter much otherwise. I also notice the more fit I get the harder it is to get my HR up.0 -
Wow! CharlieBeans, thank you! It can ruin a work out when I can’t get my heart rate up and I guess that is all for not. I am just going to work enjoying my workouts.1
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I have a Garmin Fenix 5 to measure heart rate. I also wear a polar chest strap that sync’s with my spin bike. I just like to go at max effort. Maybe I am a little obsessed with it all. I take a MOi spin class which focuses on three different heart rate zones low, mod and high. I can’t get out of the mod range. I think I will make an appointment with cardiology to get more info. Thanks 777Gemma888, that was helpful.
How did you determine what your max HR is?1 -
Why do you need to do this? Your max heart rate is whatever you get to when you're putting in 100% effort. It's not a goal1
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Wow! CharlieBeans, thank you! It can ruin a work out when I can’t get my heart rate up and I guess that is all for not. I am just going to work enjoying my workouts.
yw just do your workouts and if not having any issues then I wouldnt worry too much. I think you would know if you are overdoing it or not Im sure.1 -
Wow! CharlieBeans, thank you! It can ruin a work out when I can’t get my heart rate up and I guess that is all for not. I am just going to work enjoying my workouts.
oh and not to mention my hubby had a stress test done a few years ago and when he was on the treadmill they had the elevation as high as it would go and had hubby running quite fast(not sure how fast now) and they could not get his heart rate over 150 no matter how long he ran either. he has no heart issues. They tried all they could to get it to go higher than that and it didnt get any higher. hes not a runner either. The dr was shocked. hubby smokes too lol.1 -
If you're using an age-estimate HRmax, there's a very good chance it's inaccurate (high or low). Reaching your (actual) max heart rate is not unhealthy, as long as you've been medically cleared, and ideally have built a reasonable CV fitness base beforehand. Maximum effort (for any given activity) and maximum heart rate aren't necessarily hand and hand in sync, and the gap can vary depending on the activity being undertaken.
The rest of this is just personal anecdote, not generalizable, just FWIW:
I'm 63. I was (athletically) tested (by a coach) for max heart rate a few years back, got 180, which was well over my age-estimated max heart rate at the time (not self-congratuatory; it's not fitness-related, it's mostly genetics). My RPE at various HRs suggests that max is still around 180 (while HRmax tends to decline with age, it declines more slowly in active people). The 220-age estimating formula is wrong (according to research) for a very significant fraction of people.
I had a medical stress test; they stopped the test when I got slightly over my age-estimated max, even though I had enough breath left to be arguing with them that they should let me go on. As far as that or any other testing has indicated, my CV health is fine, other than very minor calcification that showed up on CT. (As a cancer survivor, I tend to get ordered some kind of high tech scan over even pretty minor symptoms.) No contraindications to intense exercise have been imposed.
I can reach 180bpm even now, on a rowing machine at repeated max effort (Tabata intervals, say). It isn't fun (except in a weird way); it for sure isn't sustainable. I can't do it on a spin bike, even though I spin regularly and hard (not enough body involvement to reach 180, I think). Spinning, the highest I've reached is mid 160s, about 87% (HRR method; 90% simple percentage), and I can't seem to push it higher.
OP, unless you have a tested max, maybe your max is lower than you think. Or, maybe, given your fitness, there isn't a taxing enough effort available in spin to get you to your max. Personally, I try to visit 80-85% HRR in each spin class, and will go harder if the instructor's workout makes it reasonable, but I know I'm not likely to go beyond the 160s (the roughly 87% HRR). Maybe I just don't work hard enough . . . .
S'allright. 2 -
for me the highest I have ever seen was 177 and that was going all out and gasping for breath lol. I dont try to get there anymore. when I get to where Im gasping I slow down a bit.150-160 is the norm for me. at 150 I can still hold a conversation pretty well. anything higher it gets harder to talk and breathe. but again I dont normally track it as I know how hard I am working by my breathing.1
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Thanks all. I had a stress test but like others said, they stopped it before I got to my max, I could still carry on a conversation. I think I will make an appointment with my Primary Care Doc just to check the box. Other than that, I will try not to worry about it and adjust my goals. Other than the number, I am happy with my fitness level, I am not training for anything. I teach spin and lift and run occasionally. I am grateful I can do that. Exercise helps me so much mentally as well as physically. Thanks for your replies.0
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Isn't this a pretty normal training response?
I bet if you did something you weren't trained in/for (maybe rowing, for example?) you'd peg your HR fairly easily.2 -
Another 63 year young person here with a maximum HR of about 180 bpm, self-perceived on down from 185 bpm about 5 years ago. This was determined from several running experiences including treadmill and repeated hill sprints.
My morning resting HR low, recently, was 49 bpm.
Point to keep in mind is that it varies by activity. Upper extremity activities will produce lower bpm before you perceive you’re at max.
Do burpees to test or hill sprints to test, or sprints on treadmill with steep incline.
Hal Higdon, in one of his books, shared his HR stats which were low at max effort.
Everyone is different.1 -
Isn't this a pretty normal training response?
I bet if you did something you weren't trained in/for (maybe rowing, for example?) you'd peg your HR fairly easily.
I agree with this. You muscles have adapted to the activity so they require less oxygen and your heart does not have to work as hard. What are your goals with regard to exercise? What are you trying to achieve? Striving to reach a maximum heart rate on every workout does not really make sense as a fitness goal, IMO.5 -
lporter229 wrote: »Isn't this a pretty normal training response?
I bet if you did something you weren't trained in/for (maybe rowing, for example?) you'd peg your HR fairly easily.
I agree with this. You muscles have adapted to the activity so they require less oxygen and your heart does not have to work as hard. What are your goals with regard to exercise? What are you trying to achieve? Striving to reach a maximum heart rate on every workout does not really make sense as a fitness goal, IMO.
I've seen a few posts like this recently and was wondering what I was missing. If you train at something, shouldn't you expect this to happen? I've also wondered why someone would want to max out, HR, but I don't know enough about training adaptation at that intensity to really understand what, if any, meaningful benefits there are to this. Regardless, seems like a good path to burnout.2 -
This type of training is good to improve your anaerobic fitness, and would probably not be bad to do once a week. Sometimes i do 30 second run / 2 minute walk intervals, and try to hit my MHR on the run intervals.
Personally, i think it's a good idea to spend some time in all the zones, and do interval work. It trains your heart to be able to adapt and recover better.
JMO though.3 -
Yep! You all are right on. I was having chest pains yesterday and was sent to the ER. They did a whole cardiac workup and didn’t find anything to do with my heart. The doctor did say that I my body is getting used to my exercise (spin) and my heart is getting stronger. She said it was fine to keep striving for a higher heart rate but to see that result, she said to switch up my workout. My resting heart rate is about 55 which she said was low but still in the normal range. I am going to nix one or two spin classes a week, I was doing seven. Rest is important. Thanks for all your feedback.3
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Yep! You all are right on. I was having chest pains yesterday and was sent to the ER. They did a whole cardiac workup and didn’t find anything to do with my heart. The doctor did say that I my body is getting used to my exercise (spin) and my heart is getting stronger. She said it was fine to keep striving for a higher heart rate but to see that result, she said to switch up my workout. My resting heart rate is about 55 which she said was low but still in the normal range. I am going to nix one or two spin classes a week, I was doing seven. Rest is important. Thanks for all your feedback.
i had the same issues and it took me awhile to find the heart issue I had. I had blood and everything done. holter monitor,ultrasounds,ekgs,etc for years they never found the issue. finally this last time I was walking the dogs and my HR shot up over 170 without even trying. I was confused. it happened every time for almost 2 weeks. then I had chest pains and I too went to the ER,had blood workup done too and it came back normal
never had chest pain during the increase in HR,or any other symptoms. wore a holter monitor and they discovered I had a heart rhythm disorder. I then went to a cardiologist and had a stress test and other tests. those all came back normal except for my MVP/MVR.. I was halving palpitations and everything and the machines werent picking it up for some reason either.
I still have some fluttering and what not from time to time. but he said as long as I had no pain or other symptoms not to worry. If I have pain to make an appt right away.so if you dont have a cardiologist. get one and have them check and do tests.1 -
Wow, thanks. I am glad they finally found out what was wrong. I have to make an ER follow up with my primary doc. I will push for a referral to cardiology. I too have an occasional flutter that I have always dismissed but will pay closer attention to. Thank you.2
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My max heart rate is impossible to reach now!
When I first started spinning, I could get my heart rate up to 158 or so while spinning. Now, no matter the load or RPM I can only get my heart rate to 145 or so. I am really bothered by this because I am working as hard as I can but yet it won’t budge. I was recently diagnosed with aortal regergitation but was told to keep exercising like normal. I am very fit and strong. Any suggestions. Female 48 yo, 128 lbs, 5’6” approx 13% bf.
158 probably wasn't your max. Even with the questionable 220-age, your max would be 172.
It is very difficult to reach your max, and not likely healthy to do so.
If you're having trouble getting your HR up to what you used to be able to do, chances are you're a little bit overtrained and need a break.2 -
Yep! You all are right on. I was having chest pains yesterday and was sent to the ER. They did a whole cardiac workup and didn’t find anything to do with my heart. The doctor did say that I my body is getting used to my exercise (spin) and my heart is getting stronger. She said it was fine to keep striving for a higher heart rate but to see that result, she said to switch up my workout. My resting heart rate is about 55 which she said was low but still in the normal range. I am going to nix one or two spin classes a week, I was doing seven. Rest is important. Thanks for all your feedback.
Might be worth tracking your minimum HR (completely relaxed, unfed, no caffeine etc. for consistency), for me an elevated min HR is a sure sign of over-training.
Trying frequently to attain your max HR really isn't a sensible way to train, it creates enormous fatigue and is frankly an awful feeling. You can train intensely but going to your absolute maximum isn't required. Training in all zones does pay fitness dividends but bouncing off your "rev limiter" shouldn't be a frequent occurrence.0 -
Interesting discussion in this thread.
One thing that strikes me is that if increased endurance and performance capacity is the goal(is this correct?) then maybe a workout schedule that employs periodization might help with fatigue. For example, taking a week of reduced intensity/volume every month or so to let your body recover and bring down your cumulative training stress. The other thought that occurred when reading the thread is that "Hard days should be hard, and easy days should be easy". So when talking about cardio work, the idea is that training at say 60% of max on the easy days delivers just as much benefit as training at 85% of max, yet it allows your body to recover more easily. Then, on the "hard" days, you have the juice to really push.
My 2 cents. Hope it helps.
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Man! You all are wise. I have cut back two spin classes per week. I wasn’t getting enough sleep, electrolytes, and overtraining. I have just made these training changes and I already feel better. When I first started spinning, my competitive nature was to go harder and faster than others in the spin room, not smart.4
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