Food and diet

LisaMoxon155

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

lemurcat2

I rarely ate bread (and generally whole grain) before MFP. (All bread is obv processed, but I don't think that's relevant to whether it's good for me or not. But I find bread not very satisfying and I don't care about it, it's not a food I especially love, so I tend to avoid it as not a good use of calories.) Rice is something I don't eat that often for similar reasons, and it's about equally brown or white (the nutrition is basically the same). I eat pasta occasionally (once a week), and sometimes whole grain, sometimes not (again, the nutrition is basically the same -- it's much more about what you eat with it. I do love pasta.

I was low enough carb for a while that I didn't eat any of these, but I did not notice any negative effects from eating them.

There's not that much difference, really, although whole grain has some added benefits in most cases (and I think it often tastes better).

If you are experiencing extreme reactions from white rice, I'd wonder if you have some kind of sensitivity (but that would manifest with brown too). Or maybe, if you'd been cutting it out, you way overate -- I think some people find it easy to overeat rice.

If you'd been telling yourself it's a bad food, it could be a mental thing too.

I didn't change my diet a huge amount after MFP (I mostly ate healthful homecooked meals with lots of veg already, I just got more organized so I was even more consistent with this and would have lunches to bring most days, changed up my breakfast some, and cut out snacking). I have found my tastes evolved as an adult, especially as I got more exposure to different foods, but I didn't find that I had extreme reactions to foods all of a sudden. If I did I'd probably talk to a doctor about what it might be.

janejellyroll

Bread and pasta aren't the "natural" state for any grain, so if you are having a reaction to white bread versus whole grain bread or pasta, it isn't because you aren't eating foods in their "natural" state. All breads and pasta are processed (not that there is anything wrong with that).

lemurcat2

Natural state (to the extent that's even a thing, as farming isn't natural):

janejellyroll

lemurcat2 wrote: »

Natural state (to the extent that's even a thing, as farming isn't natural):

Good point. Even just-harvested and unprocessed grains aren't the natural state for grains, in the sense that we're farming them and we've created domesticated forms that vary from the original.

kimny72

LisaMoxon155 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

There's very little difference between white and brown rice and pasta, a gram or two of fiber or protein really. I switch between white and brown rice all the time, never notice a difference.

I also don't understand why more "processed" rice would still be in your stomach the next day. Doesn't being overly processed make it easier to digest, as opposed to the less processed version with more fiber and protein to work through? Don't most people who avoid "processed" food do so because it doesn't fill them up so they get hungry and want more?

Anyway, no I haven't noticed this kind of difference. If you find a lot of foods give you such dramatic symptoms, you might want to consult a doctor.

jjpptt2

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

janejellyroll

jjpptt2 wrote: »

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

The brain can be a powerful digestive organ for many.

I ate pizza from a certain place regularly and then found out (right after eating some) that their sauce had parmesan cheese in it. I don't (knowingly) eat cheese. Guess who had a terrible stomachache that night, despite the fact that I'd eaten it many times before without an issue? Even knowing it was a mental thing didn't stop the pain. It felt like rocks in my stomach for hours, all because I learned that I ate something that I didn't want to eat.

lemurcat2

janejellyroll wrote: »

jjpptt2 wrote: »

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

The brain can be a powerful digestive organ for many.

I ate pizza from a certain place regularly and then found out (right after eating some) that their sauce had parmesan cheese in it. I don't (knowingly) eat cheese. Guess who had a terrible stomachache that night, despite the fact that I'd eaten it many times before without an issue? Even knowing it was a mental thing didn't stop the pain. It felt like rocks in my stomach for hours, all because I learned that I ate something that I didn't want to eat.

Similar! I had romaine lettuce the day I found out about the recall and the day before, and felt queasy as soon as I heard about it -- I knew it was my mind, but still felt off.

I also ate some fish not long ago and then realized my refrigerator had been accidentally turned off. Not sure when it happened, but it was up to 68, so likely a couple of days (I'm an idiot for not noticing). I ended up having to throw out a whole bunch of stuff, and am lucky that the fish apparently did not kill me (it didn't smell off, I would have noticed, and it tasted normal). I still felt immediate symptoms (mostly panic) that I had to work to talk myself out of.

GottaBurnEmAll

janejellyroll wrote: »

jjpptt2 wrote: »

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

The brain can be a powerful digestive organ for many.

I ate pizza from a certain place regularly and then found out (right after eating some) that their sauce had parmesan cheese in it. I don't (knowingly) eat cheese. Guess who had a terrible stomachache that night, despite the fact that I'd eaten it many times before without an issue? Even knowing it was a mental thing didn't stop the pain. It felt like rocks in my stomach for hours, all because I learned that I ate something that I didn't want to eat.

My son especially is prone to stomach distress after eating anything he decides after the fact he didn't like all that much.

We went through long stretches of vegetables "not agreeing" with him.

jjpptt2

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

janejellyroll wrote: »

jjpptt2 wrote: »

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

The brain can be a powerful digestive organ for many.

I ate pizza from a certain place regularly and then found out (right after eating some) that their sauce had parmesan cheese in it. I don't (knowingly) eat cheese. Guess who had a terrible stomachache that night, despite the fact that I'd eaten it many times before without an issue? Even knowing it was a mental thing didn't stop the pain. It felt like rocks in my stomach for hours, all because I learned that I ate something that I didn't want to eat.

My son especially is prone to stomach distress after eating anything he decides after the fact he didn't like all that much.

We went through long stretches of vegetables "not agreeing" with him.

lol

pinuplove

kimny72 wrote: »

LisaMoxon155 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

There's very little difference between white and brown rice and pasta, a gram or two of fiber or protein really. I switch between white and brown rice all the time, never notice a difference.

I also don't understand why more "processed" rice would still be in your stomach the next day. Doesn't being overly processed make it easier to digest, as opposed to the less processed version with more fiber and protein to work through? Don't most people who avoid "processed" food do so because it doesn't fill them up so they get hungry and want more?

Anyway, no I haven't noticed this kind of difference. If you find a lot of foods give you such dramatic symptoms, you might want to consult a doctor.

This. The rice cereal made for babies is the most processed rice product you can imagine. Yet that is a common 'first food' for babies (at least when mine were infants - I may be showing my age here) becaude it is easier on their digestive system that way.

Sloth2016

pinuplove wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

LisaMoxon155 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

There's very little difference between white and brown rice and pasta, a gram or two of fiber or protein really. I switch between white and brown rice all the time, never notice a difference.

I also don't understand why more "processed" rice would still be in your stomach the next day. Doesn't being overly processed make it easier to digest, as opposed to the less processed version with more fiber and protein to work through? Don't most people who avoid "processed" food do so because it doesn't fill them up so they get hungry and want more?

Anyway, no I haven't noticed this kind of difference. If you find a lot of foods give you such dramatic symptoms, you might want to consult a doctor.

This. The rice cereal made for babies is the most processed rice product you can imagine. Yet that is a common 'first food' for babies (at least when mine were infants - I may be showing my age here) becaude it is easier on their digestive system that way.

In Asia, white rice is boiled to the consistency of oatmeal; called "Kayu" or "Okayu". Used in hospitals to get patients back onto a solid diet as gently as possible. Also used as baby food and generally made when someone in the house is sick.

That said, I love the stuff and can easily overeat my day's calories just adding salt and pepper to it and gobbling it up. Pickled veggies and seaweed are more traditional toppings.

lynn_glenmont

Rice is part of the BRAT (bananas, rice, applesauce, toast) diet commonly recommended by medical professionals when a patient has had trouble keeping food down.

GottaBurnEmAll

Sloth2016 wrote: »

pinuplove wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

LisaMoxon155 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

There's very little difference between white and brown rice and pasta, a gram or two of fiber or protein really. I switch between white and brown rice all the time, never notice a difference.

I also don't understand why more "processed" rice would still be in your stomach the next day. Doesn't being overly processed make it easier to digest, as opposed to the less processed version with more fiber and protein to work through? Don't most people who avoid "processed" food do so because it doesn't fill them up so they get hungry and want more?

Anyway, no I haven't noticed this kind of difference. If you find a lot of foods give you such dramatic symptoms, you might want to consult a doctor.

This. The rice cereal made for babies is the most processed rice product you can imagine. Yet that is a common 'first food' for babies (at least when mine were infants - I may be showing my age here) becaude it is easier on their digestive system that way.

In Asia, white rice is boiled to the consistency of oatmeal; called "Kayu" or "Okayu". Used in hospitals to get patients back onto a solid diet as gently as possible. Also used as baby food and generally made when someone in the house is sick.

That said, I love the stuff and can easily overeat my day's calories just adding salt and pepper to it and gobbling it up. Pickled veggies and seaweed are more traditional toppings.

I love that stuff.

cwolfman13

LisaMoxon155 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how their body reacts to differernt foods??
Since starting MFP i choose healthier versions of foods i ate before. Brown bread, brown pasta, rice etc etc.
I knew before MFP my body would react to white bread and rice. Making me feel bloated, very full. Put it down to processed food. (Not its nautral state)

I had some white bolied rice the other day and what it made me feel like was awful. My kidneys felt they were hurting, bloated,hard belly, the next day it still layed heavy on my stomach and gave me a horrible stomach ache.

I know i wont be eating white bread and def not white rice

My thoughts are has anyone else noticed differneces since starting MFP??

There is almost no difference between brown rice/white rice, brown pasta/white pasta, etc. If anything the slightly higher fiber count in the brown stuff would be more likely to cause distress. Also, an bread, pasta, etc whether brown or white is processed...none of it is in it's natural state.

AnnPT77

janejellyroll wrote: »

jjpptt2 wrote: »

I've never had this experience with any types of food. I've heard people make these types of claims, but I've never been able to understand the why (assuming no allergies or other health issues at play).

The brain can be a powerful digestive organ for many.

I ate pizza from a certain place regularly and then found out (right after eating some) that their sauce had parmesan cheese in it. I don't (knowingly) eat cheese. Guess who had a terrible stomachache that night, despite the fact that I'd eaten it many times before without an issue? Even knowing it was a mental thing didn't stop the pain. It felt like rocks in my stomach for hours, all because I learned that I ate something that I didn't want to eat.

No kidding. Some chemo patients even get something called "anticipatory nausea" before an upcoming treatment. I did, between chemo round #1 and #2, even before ever hearing that that was a thing. I Took Steps, and it didn't recur on subsequent rounds. Brains are amazing, not always in a good way, but they're somewhat trainable. IMO, sometimes people even accidentally train them in the wrong direction (usually through cognitive perseveration on a negative, put more simply endless fretting about trivia).

Not saying this is what's going on with OP. I have no idea what's going on with OP. I eat mostly so called "whole foods", but don't notice anything when I eat "highly processed foods" except that doing so usually confirms that I don't enjoy them as much. But that's just me.