been MFP for over a year- no loss- open to suggestions
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What helped my husband is to quit eating at night. I know it sounds ridiculous but it's just when his metabolism slows to a crawl. Also, do you know what blts are? (Bites, licks, tastes) if you have kids, huge huge problem! Gotta drink that water, I've been told that dead fat cells are actually urinated out! So it serves two purposes when you're trying to lose weight chemical changes require water. I'm a horrible logger, I give you props for being much better than I am!
Did I just read what I thought I read?
Okay. Fat cells die and you pee them out? Where does this come from??? :laugh:0 -
it's simple math: If you burn more calories then what you eat, you're going to lose weight.
Unless you eat too few calories...or ingest too much sodium, or too many carbs, or not enough carbs, or too much protein, or don't drink enough water...or any of a dozen suggestions given to people in the OP's shoes seemingly every day on this site.
Yes, overall, caloric intake is important, but that alone won't necessarily get you where you want to be. The relationship between net calories and weight loss is not necessarily linear, and definitely not over the entire range of values. So it isn't "Just that Simple".
No, not unless ANYTHING. That is actually how it works, and how I went from fat to what I look like now.
Lately, I've been in Japan working, and eating lots more carbs, salt, and sugar (yes I know it's a carb) than normal. I struggle to get all the protein i used to. And my weight has been falling precipitously and I am leaning out. I am eating all the things that are supposed to hold me back, and I've been able to put a big dent in the pesky last bits of unwanted body fat.
Bro science really, really annoys me. If you want this bad enough, you need to stop looking for special loopholes. Eat less, move more, not too little of either. Done.0 -
it's simple math: If you burn more calories then what you eat, you're going to lose weight.
Unless you eat too few calories...or ingest too much sodium, or too many carbs, or not enough carbs, or too much protein, or don't drink enough water...or any of a dozen suggestions given to people in the OP's shoes seemingly every day on this site.
Yes, overall, caloric intake is important, but that alone won't necessarily get you where you want to be. The relationship between net calories and weight loss is not necessarily linear, and definitely not over the entire range of values. So it isn't "Just that Simple".
No, not unless ANYTHING. That is actually how it works, and how I went from fat to what I look like now.
Lately, I've been in Japan working, and eating lots more carbs, salt, and sugar (yes I know it's a carb) than normal. I struggle to get all the protein i used to. And my weight has been falling precipitously and I am leaning out. I am eating all the things that are supposed to hold me back, and I've been able to put a big dent in the pesky last bits of unwanted body fat.
Bro science really, really annoys me. If you want this bad enough, you need to stop looking for special loopholes. Eat less, move more, not too little of either. Done.
AMEN! http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1032429-you-re-not-special?hl=You're+not+special0 -
I've been logging food and within cal range(mostly) for over a year and no loss. Exercise 30 min/day 4 times a week and still, no loss. Low (not no) carb, no loss. Went to the Dr.- no thyroid prob, no prob at all... anyone??? Understandably, I am pretty frustrated gaining, losing and never getting under my start weight of 190 2 years ago!! Open to suggestions.
I'm going to suggest, what I'm sure many others have, that you invest in a digital kitchen scale and weigh your portions. It will help with honest logging and makes a huge difference for me at least. Measure liquids as well. Sometimes things don't seem like such a big deal, but little things add up quickly sometimes. If, after weighing and measuring your food you're still not losing it might be easier to figure out why with an accurate food log.0 -
Drop the sweets (cookies, ice cream, hersheys bars) even if you stay in your calorie range for the day. They are taking up vital calorie space that should be filled with nutrient rich whole foods. Once you get closer to your goal you can re-introduce the treats as a reward for making progress - but try to keep it to only one or two times per week.
If you've reached your nutritional needs...it doesn't really matter where the rest of your energy needs come from. You don't get extra credit.0 -
You are probably not eating enough for being 190. The days you exercise a lot you are not eating enough and other days you are going over calorie budget. I would suggest trying 1400 cal net a day.0
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Smaller portions in every meal.0
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You are probably not eating enough for being 190. The days you exercise a lot you are not eating enough and other days you are going over calorie budget. I would suggest trying 1400 cal net a day.
Riiiight. Not losing weight? You must not be eating enough.
Lets end world hunger and solve malnutrition for good. All we need to do is stop giving people food, and they will all turn into fat Americans.
Seriously? How did that ever become a thing? If you aren't losing FOR A WHOLE FREAKING YEAR, you are eating too much to lose.0 -
Get a food scale.
Use it regularly.
Log everything.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
Take this advice. Read the above article and see if it fits. Take a harder look at your assumed activity level and estimated calorie burn from exercises.0 -
You are probably not eating enough for being 190. The days you exercise a lot you are not eating enough and other days you are going over calorie budget. I would suggest trying 1400 cal net a day.
Riiiight. Not losing weight? You must not be eating enough.
Lets end world hunger and solve malnutrition for good. All we need to do is stop giving people food, and they will all turn into fat Americans.
Seriously? How did that ever become a thing? If you aren't losing FOR A WHOLE FREAKING YEAR, you are eating too much to lose.
It's starvation mode, man. Don't you know? People in Japan are so thin and healthy because their portions are hyooge!!!0 -
I appreciate the insights and feedback- processed foods, sugars, too many cal/too little(?), and a general distrust of logging foods and exercise (though I used the references in MFP) - I will work with the input I asked for in hopes of progress.0
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Bumping for suggestions.0
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I appreciate the insights and feedback- processed foods, sugars, too many cal/too little(?), and a general distrust of logging foods and exercise (though I used the references in MFP) - I will work with the input I asked for in hopes of progress.
Seriously. Buy the food scale. Peanut butter, protein powder, nuts, anything with oil, and any other high calorie foods are very hard to properly measure without weighing them. Portion size and control has to be learned, we don't do it naturally.
Sugars, carbs, etc. really don't matter outside of the context of calories.0 -
You might try to eat a larger breakfast ... 100 calories for breakfast is very low ... the two ways to rev-up your metabolism is to eat and exercise. So try to eat less calories at the end of the day and more in the morning to rev-up your metabolism first thing.
Also, hang in there! Be very proud that you haven't gained weight over the last two years... because this weight-loss process can be very frustrating!0 -
I haven't looked at your diary, but would suggest getting a heart rate monitor . That way you know for sure exactly how many calories are burnt and not guesstimated. Two people doing the same exercise for the same amount of time can have very different calorie burns. Keep an eye on your sugar intake and your sodium intake and drink water!!! Processed food is not good either. I hate veges, but have started to eat homemade stirfrys 2-3 times a week. This is en easy way to get them into your system and believe me they taste great too. Homemade pumpkin soup is another good one. You can make a batch that will last for 4-5 meals and just freeze them into the correct portion size. Hope some of this helps you. If you want my recipes just let me know, will be happy to share them
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You might try to eat a larger breakfast ... 100 calories for breakfast is very low ... the two ways to rev-up your metabolism is to eat and exercise. So try to eat less calories at the end of the day and more in the morning to rev-up your metabolism first thing.
Also, hang in there! Be very proud that you haven't gained weight over the last two years... because this weight-loss process can be very frustrating!
My breakfast is coffee, black.
Progress pics on my profile,0 -
My 2 cents for this situation,simple math works
If you dont do anything whole day, your body needs around 1900-2000cals to maintain the weight.
Lets say you weigh X and eating 2000 cals and doing nothing, you will weigh X at end of day,
Now to loose 1lb in a week you need to have deficiency of 3500cals that means you either eat 1500cals/day or eat 2000cals/day and exercise for 500cals.
In this case you might think that you are already doing this, but there is another concern of metabolism
If you are eating too less, then your body will go in starvation mode, Lets say you are eating only 800cals then you are pulling down your metabolism and your body thinks as its not getting enough food so it tries to go in starvation mode and tries to save all the extra fat for worst time. That actually reduces weight loss and eventually you eat even less to make weight loss faster but that wont work and it will help starvation mode to be more dominant
Try eating little more than what you are eating now but less than your goal limit, activate your metabolism a little more and see the results.
Beside this be very accurate in what you are logging, sometimes we miss a tiny bit of food in log and that is actually all the cals in the meal
Hope its a help, good luck0 -
My 2 cents for this situation,simple math works
If you dont do anything whole day, your body needs around 1900-2000cals to maintain the weight.
Lets say you weigh X and eating 2000 cals and doing nothing, you will weigh X at end of day,
Now to loose 1lb in a week you need to have deficiency of 3500cals that means you either eat 1500cals/day or eat 2000cals/day and exercise for 500cals.
In this case you might think that you are already doing this, but there is another concern of metabolism
If you are eating too less, then your body will go in starvation mode, Lets say you are eating only 800cals then you are pulling down your metabolism and your body thinks as its not getting enough food so it tries to go in starvation mode and tries to save all the extra fat for worst time. That actually reduces weight loss and eventually you eat even less to make weight loss faster but that wont work and it will help starvation mode to be more dominant
Try eating little more than what you are eating now but less than your goal limit, activate your metabolism a little more and see the results.
Beside this be very accurate in what you are logging, sometimes we miss a tiny bit of food in log and that is actually all the cals in the meal
Hope its a help, good luck
Simple math at the start, total hooey at the end. You're not in starvation mode. Take a break from your diet if you need to, then get back to it.
Scooby's workshop has a calculator for adjusting you calorie goal based on data you collect yourself. Projected loss compared to actual loss will tell you what to do next. MFP uses averages, and you might need more or less than that to maintain. On top of that, even with a scale your caloric values for food are also estimates. You can cut down on that error by eating the same thing over and over for a while if you want.
It is really easy to use measurement and estimation error to construct for yourself a false narrative of "I started eating more and I lost weight". Just remember, if your story seems to defy the very laws of physics, chances are its your story that is wrong.0 -
I was like that too, but once i completelly removed white flour, sugar, simple carbs , juices, soft drinks, energy drinks and any sort of pre packaged processed foods, the weight strated dropping off quiet easily...
I was excercising cardio & weights mixed...
also not eatin enough calories will cause mass damage to your weight loss... so becareful of over training and undereating.0 -
well, there are a few options.
1) you are logging incorrectly, underestimating your portions, or not logging everything.
2) your calculations regarding your metabolic rate / bmr are incorrect and you are eating the wrong number of calories.
3) you have an underlying medical condition and should go see a doctor.
pick one... or two... and go with it...0 -
I was like that too, but once i completelly removed white flour, sugar, simple carbs , juices, soft drinks, energy drinks and any sort of pre packaged processed foods, the weight strated dropping off quiet easily...
I was excercising cardio & weights mixed...
also not eatin enough calories will cause mass damage to your weight loss... so becareful of over training and undereating.
I must be super special then, because I started losing fast when I added sugar sugar and noodles back into my diet.
It's ALMOST as if just because one thing happens after an other, the second thing is not necessarily caused by the first!
Magic!0 -
Eat less less log accurately and exercise more. It's not rocket science. I'd question why it's taken you a year to notice it wasn't working0
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You might try to eat a larger breakfast ... 100 calories for breakfast is very low ... the two ways to rev-up your metabolism is to eat and exercise. So try to eat less calories at the end of the day and more in the morning to rev-up your metabolism first thing.
Also, hang in there! Be very proud that you haven't gained weight over the last two years... because this weight-loss process can be very frustrating!
My breakfast is coffee, black.
Progress pics on my profile,
same here...
6 cups of coffee is my breakfast...
90 pound loss in 10 months...
eating / not eating breakfast is not a deal breaker...
seems to be another mfp myth that gets circulated, like "starvation mode", which some will tell you will set in if you skip a meal...0 -
Alot of broscientists are coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
LMAO ^ agree
simple, don't eat junk food, no refined sugar, dont eat pre packaged meals...eat fresh veggies & fruits & lean meats!0 -
Alot of broscientists are coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
LMAO ^ agree
simple, don't eat junk food, no refined sugar, dont eat pre packaged meals...eat fresh veggies & fruits & lean meats!
& i say its simple because...i've lost 18 pounds in a month doing just that, oh and exercising of course0 -
Had a peek at a couple of days. You might want to adjust the sodium down a bit (boullion cubes and ramen seasoning packets are loaded). There are lower-sodium versions of many foods.
What you might try doing with your meals is eating them on a smaller plate. If you normally use a dinner plate, use a slightly-smaller plate.
Fruits and veggies are your friends here.
Fried foods in moderation. Try steamed, grilled, or broiled instead. :flowerforyou:0 -
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My guess is that you aren't weighing your food that you're "estimating" your serving sizes. Stop estimating and break out a food scale and use it. Also, what about exercise?0
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