Question about activity level

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If you want to roll up exercise into your activity level, you should use a TDEE calculator and customize your calorie target here. A TDEE calculator will use a different algorithm to include your exercise.

MFP is a NEAT method calculator where your activity level is your day to day where purposeful exercise is accounted for when you log it after the fact and get additional calories.

If you want to use the MFP method, I'd probably pick light active or whatever the one right above sedentary is since walking is part of your daily commute. If you want to include exercise in your activity level and calorie target, use a TDEE calculator and manually customize your target here.

Yep I already have used a TDEE calculator but I think it seems a bit high (see below):

Why does it seem high?

Because it tells me that if I wanted to maintain my current weight to have 3,454 calories per day. If I take away 500 that's still 2,954. It then also says the amount of calories to reach my goal should be 2,763 calories per day. The dietitian I saw told me to stick to eating within a range of 1500-1800 per day (although she's fully aware of the amount of exercise I do). Either she's wrong, or the TDEE calculator is overestimating.

If you do 10-14 hours of cardio a week, yeah your dietician is wrong.

What do you do for your cardio? I'm thinking that the calorie burn from that may be the biggest question mark you need to figure out. Big difference between walking a couple hours and running a couple hours.

I usually do a mixture of exercise bike, cross trainer, rowing machine and treadmill. Today it was 1hr 15mins on cross trainer and 45 mins on exercise bike, cross trainer said 800 calories and exercise bike 300 calories ( I didn't input my weight, for some damned reason it won't let me, so may be more than what they stated)

So, they show you burning 1100 for 2 hours. For comparison, if I run 10K, it takes me 1:10 and I burn about 800 cals, I'm male and ~210 lbs.

So I don't think your numbers are horribly inflated.

In that case, if you eat 1800, you are only covering 700 cals for daily activity.

I don't work out as much as you do (5-6 hours per week), and am pretty frikken sedentary outside of that (drive to work, play video games at home) and am a lot older at 53. I should lose ~1.5 lbs per week eating around 2,000.

So lets say my daily calorie limit is 1800 (that's including 500 deficit), and I then burn 1,100 calories through exercise, is my daily calorie limit then 2800-2900? I've read somewhere on the forum that you're meant to eat back the calories burned through exercise, is that correct?

Yes, which is about what the TDEE calculator gave you.

Then I really do not understand why the dietitian is telling me to keep within 1800 calories including all the exercise I am doing. She absolutely knows the amount and frequency of exercise that I do.

People often tend to under-report their calories and over-report their activity (not saying you do- it's just extremely common). Many professionals have this in mind when issuing advice. It's not unusual for a doctor to tell extremely overweight individuals to go on a 1200 calorie diet when, according to their stats, they could support hundreds more. They assume people will eat more than that.

With that in mind, you'll want to give attention to your logging & make sure you are as accurate as possible, but by all means, eat the full amount. In a month or so, you can reassess if you are either losing at too great or too small of a rate.

julielunk94

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julielunk94 wrote: »

Tacklewasher wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

TavistockToad wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

If you want to roll up exercise into your activity level, you should use a TDEE calculator and customize your calorie target here. A TDEE calculator will use a different algorithm to include your exercise.

MFP is a NEAT method calculator where your activity level is your day to day where purposeful exercise is accounted for when you log it after the fact and get additional calories.

If you want to use the MFP method, I'd probably pick light active or whatever the one right above sedentary is since walking is part of your daily commute. If you want to include exercise in your activity level and calorie target, use a TDEE calculator and manually customize your target here.

Yep I already have used a TDEE calculator but I think it seems a bit high (see below):

Why does it seem high?

Because it tells me that if I wanted to maintain my current weight to have 3,454 calories per day. If I take away 500 that's still 2,954. It then also says the amount of calories to reach my goal should be 2,763 calories per day. The dietitian I saw told me to stick to eating within a range of 1500-1800 per day (although she's fully aware of the amount of exercise I do). Either she's wrong, or the TDEE calculator is overestimating.

If you do 10-14 hours of cardio a week, yeah your dietician is wrong.

What do you do for your cardio? I'm thinking that the calorie burn from that may be the biggest question mark you need to figure out. Big difference between walking a couple hours and running a couple hours.

I usually do a mixture of exercise bike, cross trainer, rowing machine and treadmill. Today it was 1hr 15mins on cross trainer and 45 mins on exercise bike, cross trainer said 800 calories and exercise bike 300 calories ( I didn't input my weight, for some damned reason it won't let me, so may be more than what they stated)

Just be careful, OP. Others can speak to this better than me, but I don't think it's advisable for a relative newcomer to train so aggressively with no rest days. If you give yourself an injury, it could set you back for a long while. Moderation in all things. Wish you the best

Thank you! The amount of exercise is nothing new to me, I’m used to it

No I can assure you that it’s 2 hours exercise every day, I’m fully committed to it. And I’ve become obsessed at logging everything I eat 😂

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try2again wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

Tacklewasher wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

TavistockToad wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

If you want to roll up exercise into your activity level, you should use a TDEE calculator and customize your calorie target here. A TDEE calculator will use a different algorithm to include your exercise.

MFP is a NEAT method calculator where your activity level is your day to day where purposeful exercise is accounted for when you log it after the fact and get additional calories.

If you want to use the MFP method, I'd probably pick light active or whatever the one right above sedentary is since walking is part of your daily commute. If you want to include exercise in your activity level and calorie target, use a TDEE calculator and manually customize your target here.

Yep I already have used a TDEE calculator but I think it seems a bit high (see below):

Why does it seem high?

Because it tells me that if I wanted to maintain my current weight to have 3,454 calories per day. If I take away 500 that's still 2,954. It then also says the amount of calories to reach my goal should be 2,763 calories per day. The dietitian I saw told me to stick to eating within a range of 1500-1800 per day (although she's fully aware of the amount of exercise I do). Either she's wrong, or the TDEE calculator is overestimating.

If you do 10-14 hours of cardio a week, yeah your dietician is wrong.

What do you do for your cardio? I'm thinking that the calorie burn from that may be the biggest question mark you need to figure out. Big difference between walking a couple hours and running a couple hours.

I usually do a mixture of exercise bike, cross trainer, rowing machine and treadmill. Today it was 1hr 15mins on cross trainer and 45 mins on exercise bike, cross trainer said 800 calories and exercise bike 300 calories ( I didn't input my weight, for some damned reason it won't let me, so may be more than what they stated)

Just be careful, OP. Others can speak to this better than me, but I don't think it's advisable for a relative newcomer to train so aggressively with no rest days. If you give yourself an injury, it could set you back for a long while. Moderation in all things. Wish you the best

Thank you! The amount of exercise is nothing new to me, I’m used to it

No I can assure you that it’s 2 hours exercise every day, I’m fully committed to it. And I’ve become obsessed at logging everything I eat 😂

Then be patient.

In 4-8 weeks you'll have your results from this experiment. It's what we all have to do in the beginning. (Well - we do it forever, so there's that.)

TavistockToad

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try2again wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

Tacklewasher wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

Tacklewasher wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

TavistockToad wrote: »

julielunk94 wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

If you want to roll up exercise into your activity level, you should use a TDEE calculator and customize your calorie target here. A TDEE calculator will use a different algorithm to include your exercise.

MFP is a NEAT method calculator where your activity level is your day to day where purposeful exercise is accounted for when you log it after the fact and get additional calories.

If you want to use the MFP method, I'd probably pick light active or whatever the one right above sedentary is since walking is part of your daily commute. If you want to include exercise in your activity level and calorie target, use a TDEE calculator and manually customize your target here.

Yep I already have used a TDEE calculator but I think it seems a bit high (see below):

Why does it seem high?

Because it tells me that if I wanted to maintain my current weight to have 3,454 calories per day. If I take away 500 that's still 2,954. It then also says the amount of calories to reach my goal should be 2,763 calories per day. The dietitian I saw told me to stick to eating within a range of 1500-1800 per day (although she's fully aware of the amount of exercise I do). Either she's wrong, or the TDEE calculator is overestimating.

If you do 10-14 hours of cardio a week, yeah your dietician is wrong.

What do you do for your cardio? I'm thinking that the calorie burn from that may be the biggest question mark you need to figure out. Big difference between walking a couple hours and running a couple hours.

I usually do a mixture of exercise bike, cross trainer, rowing machine and treadmill. Today it was 1hr 15mins on cross trainer and 45 mins on exercise bike, cross trainer said 800 calories and exercise bike 300 calories ( I didn't input my weight, for some damned reason it won't let me, so may be more than what they stated)

So, they show you burning 1100 for 2 hours. For comparison, if I run 10K, it takes me 1:10 and I burn about 800 cals, I'm male and ~210 lbs.

So I don't think your numbers are horribly inflated.

In that case, if you eat 1800, you are only covering 700 cals for daily activity.

I don't work out as much as you do (5-6 hours per week), and am pretty frikken sedentary outside of that (drive to work, play video games at home) and am a lot older at 53. I should lose ~1.5 lbs per week eating around 2,000.

So lets say my daily calorie limit is 1800 (that's including 500 deficit), and I then burn 1,100 calories through exercise, is my daily calorie limit then 2800-2900? I've read somewhere on the forum that you're meant to eat back the calories burned through exercise, is that correct?

Yes, which is about what the TDEE calculator gave you.

Then I really do not understand why the dietitian is telling me to keep within 1800 calories including all the exercise I am doing. She absolutely knows the amount and frequency of exercise that I do.

Probably because people don't generally log accurately.

Or she isn't a very good dietician