GMO Labeling?

mom2kidds

Any like minded people out there? I'm volunteering for YES on 522 here in WA state to get GMO's on food labels. We will be voting in Nov. It is similar to Prop 37 that unfortunately failed in CA.
I am overweight, my adult kids are overweight I can't help but feel it is in part to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food. I now know better so am doing better but my body and mind crave the addicting crap that we ate for years. It's a battle but with good food I can feel my body and mind reacting better. We really are what we eat. Simple statement that I ignored for years.
Looking for others that are on this same journey. Anyone out there on MFP?
Haters don't bother... you have to learn on your own and it won't be picky a fight with me.

mikeberthold

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

nomeejerome

:huh: blaming being overweight on something other than calorie surplus or a medical condition? This ought to be good.

herblackwings39

I'd like to see GMO labeling, but I don't just want a "GMO PRODUCT OMG!!!!" sticker. I'd like to know WHAT the modification/s was/were. Genetically modified doesn't always equal bad to me. It would just be nice to be able to make an informed decision.

xeno8604

I believe in free will, as in free will to eat what I want, whether it is good or bad!

mom2kidds

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

mom2kidds

:huh: blaming being overweight on something other than calorie surplus or a medical condition? This ought to be good.

I'm sorry, did I do that? No I did not. But GMO's are a factor in our weight gain.
You sound a bit like a hater... bye, bye. Best Wishes to you.

explosivedonut

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

Nothing on that site pointed towards how GMO's are addictive (closest is an article explaining how the extra sugar and fat in processed food makes it more addictive. No duh). Any peer reviewed scientific studies say they are? I'll just wait here. I'm sure that you will deliver, OP.

mom2kidds

I'd like to see GMO labeling, but I don't just want a "GMO PRODUCT OMG!!!!" sticker. I'd like to know WHAT the modification/s was/were. Genetically modified doesn't always equal bad to me. It would just be nice to be able to make an informed decision.

Agreed! We have a right to know everything that is in the products, GMO's or not. GMO's are actually included on labels in 60+ countries already. Some by US companies that don't do the same for us here in the USA.

mom2kidds

I believe in free will, as in free will to eat what I want, whether it is good or bad!

Of course free will. But that is hard to do when GMO's are being hidden from us. I unfortunately wasn't raised on and did not realize until too late how to pick healthy foods.

FerretBuellerr

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

nomeejerome

:huh: blaming being overweight on something other than calorie surplus or a medical condition? This ought to be good.

I'm sorry, did I do that? No I did not. But GMO's are a factor in our weight gain.
You sound a bit like a hater... bye, bye. Best Wishes to you.

Oh yeah, I must be a hater or a bully or whatever because I choose personal responsibility over placing blame onto the food industry. :ohwell:

mom2kidds

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

Nothing on that site pointed towards how GMO's are addictive (closest is an article explaining how the extra sugar and fat in processed food makes it more addictive. No duh). Any peer reviewed scientific studies say they are? I'll just wait here. I'm sure that you will deliver, OP.

As stated in OP I'm looking to group up with like minded people. That is my goal, not to argue with or educate others here. I prefer face to face for education which is why I am a volunteer for YES on 522.

I offer http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ to you. This has enough info to keep you busy for a bit.
After that if you truly care to learn more google for GMO info or a group in your area that might provide a face to face with you.

Best wishes to you.

explosivedonut

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

You do realize that almost everything you eat has been genetically modified in some way, shape, or form, correct? Either bred for flavor, longevity, or other factors. We have been doing it since the dawn of time. We took one crop that was really good, and tried to make sure that crop pollinated our other crops. It's kind of how wheat became our staple crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#History

mom2kidds

:huh: blaming being overweight on something other than calorie surplus or a medical condition? This ought to be good.

I'm sorry, did I do that? No I did not. But GMO's are a factor in our weight gain.
You sound a bit like a hater... bye, bye. Best Wishes to you.

Oh yeah, I must be a hater or a bully or whatever because I choose personal responsibility over placing blame onto the food industry. :ohwell:

Your tone from the get go is not nice. I clearly asked for like minded people, which you are not.

mrmagee3

I'd like to see GMO labeling, but I don't just want a "GMO PRODUCT OMG!!!!" sticker. I'd like to know WHAT the modification/s was/were. Genetically modified doesn't always equal bad to me. It would just be nice to be able to make an informed decision.

I would sign onto this.

bcattoes

I don't live in WA so won't be voting. But I am in favor of labeling GMO foods and have made my congressional representatives aware. I do not believe all GMO foods are bad or that they make people fat. I just feel the public has the right to know what they are buying.

mom2kidds

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

You do realize that almost everything you eat has been genetically modified in some way, shape, or form, correct? Either bred for flavor, longevity, or other factors. We have been doing it since the dawn of time. We took one crop that was really good, and tried to make sure that crop pollinated our other crops. It's kind of how wheat became our staple crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#History

I'm quite familiar with the genetic engineering of wheat. I purchase mostly organic products to avoid GMO's as much as possible. I have given up some foods that I can't get organic.
I am not here looking for you to educate me. If you are not like minded as I stated you should really move on to another topic.
Thanks for your concern though.

walterm852

I think there should be labeling, you should be able to know what you are eating. If so many other countries are against it, there may be a reason. The powerful Montesanto lobby is preventing this labeling because they know it will hurt sales. Think about peanut and other food allergies that barely existed 20 years ago, The tremendous increase in processed foods have a direct correlation to this increase.

Dont get me wrong though, I dont think GMO are all bad. If we come up with better crops, with more nutritional value, that can feed more people ... great. But I just want to know, if the DNA of a fish scale is being added to a tomato plant to make the skin more durable for resale and that its not rushed to market by food giants looking for profitability.

xeno8604

I wish you luck with this OP, this sounds like it can benefit society as a whole, however due to corporate greed and the powerful wanting to control us, who knows how far we can go. At least with this idea going thru, we can stop blaming others and taking responsibility for our own actions on what we eat.

mom2kidds

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

Yay! A new friend! Thank you!!!
I struggle with the expense of organic too, we have to make choices and don't get everything we want. My daughter just moved back to college and is trying to stay organic, on her dime this go round (2nd BA before grad school). We'll see how that goes for her soon. We still eat out occasionally which always includes GMO's, moderation is the key for us right now.

FerretBuellerr

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

You do realize that almost everything you eat has been genetically modified in some way, shape, or form, correct? Either bred for flavor, longevity, or other factors. We have been doing it since the dawn of time. We took one crop that was really good, and tried to make sure that crop pollinated our other crops. It's kind of how wheat became our staple crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#History

Oh, I am more than aware. If I wasn't aware, I probably wouldn't consider it such a big problem with the non-labeling of foods. But since the dawn of time? Not at all - I think you are confusing genetically modifying foods (ie. adding a gene that does not exist in that variety to it to make it resistant to pesticides) with - what I am completely drawing a blank of the correct term - humans understanding dominant and recessive gene traits in plants and selectively breeding them in such a way as to bring out the traits that make the plants stronger. From my understanding, that is how wild grass became a wheat.

bcattoes

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

I didn't see anything in that article about GMO. It was about the addictive nature of salt and sugar and how big food companies have exploited it. It really isn't the fault of the company, though, if the consumer fails to read the labels. Amounts of sodium and sugar are there.

GMO is a completely different issue.

runninghealthy

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You do realize that almost everything you eat has been genetically modified in some way, shape, or form, correct? Either bred for flavor, longevity, or other factors. We have been doing it since the dawn of time. We took one crop that was really good, and tried to make sure that crop pollinated our other crops. It's kind of how wheat became our staple crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#History
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Actually, this is not true, and is why many people are in favor of labeling (I am as well, and am not interested in getting into the debate about whether they are addicting, make one fat, etc., I would just like to be able to make an informed decision about my food.). However, to be clear, there is a large difference between a GMO food and a food that has been bred for certain traits. You are entirely correct that we have been "breeding" food for generations, a process that essentially entails an interference with a plant's reproductive cycle, so that we can breed for certain traits. A great example is corn: taking the reproductive pollen from a plant with traits you like, and dusting it over the seeds of other plants, to "breed" for that trait. Is there a certain level of artificiality in this? Yes. But it still uses the reproductive process of nature to make the desired shift.

A GMO plant, on the other hand, has been modified in a laboratory, and injected with a genetic strain often from a completely different species. It's a process that involves actual cell invasion, so as to implant the desired genetic code in the plant's DNA. Often, this is done by using viruses, which are good at invading cells, E-Coli is often used for example. A lab tech will inject the desired string of DNA into an E-Coli virus, and then insert this virus into the cells of a plant. The virus will do what it's good at, which is invade the cell, and thus deliver the desired new genetic material. This is a VERY different process from that described above, and many studies have already shown possible negative side effects of GMO plants.

The example you use of wheat is actually a perfect example because while we have been breeding wheat for certain traits for ages, it has not yet been approved as a GMO. There are some field tests of GMO wheat in the US, but none has been approved for sale and human consumption.

Please make your own decisions about what you eat, me: I'm against GMOs and for labeling, but make sure that you're making them with all the facts in hand.

mom2kidds

I wish you luck with this OP, this sounds like it can benefit society as a whole, however due to corporate greed and the powerful wanting to control us, who knows how far we can go. At least with this idea going thru, we can stop blaming others and taking responsibility for our own actions on what we eat.

OMG, we may be finding common ground! Corporate greed and controlling us is a huge part of GMO's and other worldly problems. I've just begun to check out this group http://www.flushthetpp.org/

explosivedonut

I am with you 100%! I try my best to avoid anything genetically modified when I can, but it's difficult (especially for me being a student - organic food is a lot more expensive).

Also, you will probably end up with a lot of haters on this site - ignore them. I get the impression that most of them are aiming to be body builders to an extent, thus still eat most of the foods that are modified. That is more than likely over-generalizing, but that's what I've seen so far. Either way, ignore the hate, because it's rampant. There is more than enough evidence out there that anyone can Google it, find it, and make an informed decision on it without being an *kitten*-hat.

Feel free to friend me! I would love to have support and give support to a fellow non-GMO/GMO labeling supporter.

You do realize that almost everything you eat has been genetically modified in some way, shape, or form, correct? Either bred for flavor, longevity, or other factors. We have been doing it since the dawn of time. We took one crop that was really good, and tried to make sure that crop pollinated our other crops. It's kind of how wheat became our staple crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#History

Oh, I am more than aware. If I wasn't aware, I probably wouldn't consider it such a big problem with the non-labeling of foods. But since the dawn of time? Not at all - I think you are confusing genetically modifying foods (ie. adding a gene that does not exist in that variety to it to make it resistant to pesticides) with - what I am completely drawing a blank of the correct term - humans understanding dominant and recessive gene traits in plants and selectively breeding them in such a way as to bring out the traits that make the plants stronger. From my understanding, that is how wild grass became a wheat.

Yeah those are essentially the same thing. We aren't "splicing" things that could never exist in the plant. We find the gene that we want, turn it on, then breed it. That way, we don't have to spend generations upon generations until we get a plant with the "purebred" version of the gene. That's really all that we are doing.

And to OP, you keep posting random websites, but none of them have peer reviewed scientific studies? Can you please point me towards peer reviewed scientific studies?

nomeejerome

:huh: blaming being overweight on something other than calorie surplus or a medical condition? This ought to be good.

I'm sorry, did I do that? No I did not. But GMO's are a factor in our weight gain.
You sound a bit like a hater... bye, bye. Best Wishes to you.

Oh yeah, I must be a hater or a bully or whatever because I choose personal responsibility over placing blame onto the food industry. :ohwell:

Your tone from the get go is not nice. I clearly asked for like minded people, which you are not.

Eh. It is the internet and a public forum. :ohwell: People have the right to have additional information, such as a calorie surplus causes weight gain, not the food industry. You have a right to post in a public forum and I have a right to respond. Many times, people mistake disagreeing with not being nice. That is also not true. Anyways...have fun.

Acg67

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

Nothing on that site pointed towards how GMO's are addictive (closest is an article explaining how the extra sugar and fat in processed food makes it more addictive. No duh). Any peer reviewed scientific studies say they are? I'll just wait here. I'm sure that you will deliver, OP.

As stated in OP I'm looking to group up with like minded people. That is my goal, not to argue with or educate others here. I prefer face to face for education which is why I am a volunteer for YES on 522.

I offer http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ to you. This has enough info to keep you busy for a bit.
After that if you truly care to learn more google for GMO info or a group in your area that might provide a face to face with you.

Best wishes to you.

Lol GMO fearmongering

FerretBuellerr

Yeah those are essentially the same thing. We aren't "splicing" things that could never exist in the plant. We find the gene that we want, turn it on, then breed it. That way, we don't have to spend generations upon generations until we get a plant with the "purebred" version of the gene. That's really all that we are doing.

And to OP, you keep posting random websites, but none of them have peer reviewed scientific studies? Can you please point me towards peer reviewed scientific studies?

"Essentially" the same thing. But not the same thing. Yes, it's human intervention, but it's done in a natural process that was figured out before humans even invented soap, let alone before modern science.

Also, I think OP is going to keep ignoring you. I don't think this forum was meant to be a debate, just the OP wanting to connect with people that have like-minded views.

mom2kidds

Are you arguing that companies genetically modified food to make it addictive which is the only reason you and your adult children are overweight?

I clearly stated "I can't help but feel it is IN PART to the crap that our FDA and USDA allow to be called food." I made the mistake of thinking anything produced as food was ok to be eating. My fault for not investigating and knowing better.

I point to this for more info on how, yes GMO's are addicting. http://gmo-awareness.com/

I didn't see anything in that article about GMO. It was about the addictive nature of salt and sugar and how big food companies have exploited it. It really isn't the fault of the company, though, if the consumer fails to read the labels. Amounts of sodium and sugar are there.

GMO is a completely different issue.

Sorry about that. Sugar is know to be an issue, most likely containing GMO's
"Sugar: If a non-organic product made in North American lists “sugar” as an ingredient (and NOT pure cane sugar), then it is almost certainly a combination of sugar from both sugar cane and GM sugar beets."

High Fructose corn syrup is also listed in so many products, often as a sweetener.
"High fructose corn syrup is found in sodas, cereals, cookies, candy, salad dressings, spaghetti sauces, and 1,000 other products. Baked goods use cornstarch; Vegetable oils use corn oil; Breads use corn flour."
Corn is a high GMO crop.

I point you to http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ for more info.

mom2kidds

I agree with this comment from another site. Good info.

"From listening to an interview on http://www.itsrainmakingtime.com (Kim Greenhouse) I found out that wheat genes were modified some 40-50 yrs ago and it is not the wheat people used to eat way back then.

Dr. William Davis, the Author of Wheat Belly explained that it now has 10X the yield & a much shorter growing season, making it a super carb making people fatter and fatter….and it causes celiac disease which destroys the intestines….and it can cause rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Hashimoto’s, weight gain, diabetes, Chrone’s disease and colitis etc

The wheat of today was transformed and is no longer edible without high chance of disease: Wheat used to have 28 chromosomes. It now has 42 chromosomes.Glydin protein in this wheat of today, is an appetite stimulant and they put it in everything from soups to desserts….Since hearing this interview, I quit eating any breads, even organic made from wheat of any type including sprouted breads, and breads made from Spelt, Kamut, and other types of wheat. I found that I was “addicted” to it. Once I started eating some, I had 2, 3, 5, 7 pieces….I thought this was weird…..I was never “addicted” to bread before……I noticed that all other products,for example crackers made of buckwheat all contain rice flour which , according to Dr. Davis, raise blood sugar even more than wheat….so I make my own dehydrated vegetable crackers using an almond flour and ground flaxseed base plus red/yellow peppers or tomatoes/basil or apple/fennel and they are delicious! ….I am passing on this info to everyone I know. Please do your own investigation and pass this on…."